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RE: About 95% Done Kitchen - Finally! (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: loves2cook4six on 01.10.2009 at 05:45 pm in Kitchens Forum

Hope you don't mind me putting this here. It's just too beautiful not to share but if you don't want it here, just change the name of the photo in photobucket and the link will break.


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RE: Do you love your instant hot water dispenser? (Follow-Up #27)

posted by: lsandler on 11.29.2008 at 06:52 pm in Kitchens Forum

kulagal, thanks for your kind words about my kitchen--here's the info you requested:

Main faucet; Kohler Vinatta
Hot/cold filtered faucet- Everpure everhot/evercold --LVH600

See website below for more info.

Here is a link that might be useful: Superwater


clipped on: 01.28.2009 at 10:38 pm    last updated on: 01.28.2009 at 10:38 pm

drawer inside a drawer?

posted by: kmgard on 01.04.2009 at 01:04 pm in Kitchens Forum

Hi, I'm sorry if this has ever been posted before, but I'm not sure what phrase I should use to search-- I'm looking for an organizational item I'll be able to use inside a couple of my drawer bases once I order my DIY semi-custom cabinets. It's basically a shallow drawer that pulls out from inside the top portion of a deeper drawer, kind of dividing it into two levels. Does that make sense?? I'd like to put my tupperware containers in the bottom part and use the shallow inner-drawer for the lids. If anyone knows what I'm talking about and can send me some type of link, that would be fantastic. Thanks!!


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I'll bite the bullet and share - 1 yr later - almost finished

posted by: loves2cook4six on 11.20.2008 at 10:56 pm in Kitchens Forum

Smallish kitchen - 11' x 16'


Dh and I were squashed both working in the corner between the sink and stove. Had to climb over the island to get to the fridge. no where to sit. Dated!!!

Kitchen all cleaned out ready to come out

All the cabinets are empty

Details of new Kitchen

Cabinets custom built by Atr Cabinetry out of Nappanee Indiana (they ship country wide). They're a mix of maple and Cherry with walnut accents. A shameless plug for them - they were FANTASTIC to work for, nothing was impossible and I don't have a single filler or wasted inch in the entire kitchen!

*All new custom cabinets (slab doors) in 3 finishes (maple, cherry and walnut) with mortise-and-tenon cabinet frames and French dovetailed, hand-fitted drawers and catalyzed hand wiped finishes. All cabinet backs are 1/2" and all shelves are 3/4"

*Custom color finishes to match (eyes downcast) laminate chips whose colors I liked together

*Boxes are all maple and the inside stain is the same as all the other maple even where the doors are cherry

*Nearly all drawers in the base cabinets except for corner units, under the sinks and trash. Drawer depths were 100% customizable to fit the contents. (HD could not accommodate this)

*Panels for the fridge, freezer and two dishwashers

*Two way trash pullout accessible from both sides of the island (HD could not accommodate this)

*Pullout pantry tower with toe kick release

*Angled pantry cabinet with two doors

*Angled base cabinet and angled upper display cabinet

*Angled corner cabinet

*30" deep cabinets in the base and ALL the space is usable as custom made drawers go all the way back

*15" deep upper cabinets

*Spice drawer with "hidden drawers" above to maintain line of drawers visually

*Bread drawer with Plexiglas cover

*Glass inset doors on some of the uppers with glass shelves in those cabinets

*Wine glass rack in upper cabinet

*4 Toe kick drawers

*Custom-made can storage drawers

*Soft close Blum blumotion drawer guides on every drawer

*Soft close on all the doors

*5 Custom cherry/walnut intarsia doors

*2 Magic Corner II units

*2 tilt outs under sink

*Tray storage above ovens deep enough to hold trays in double depth

*two hidden cutting boards that pop out - one next to the fridge and one above the microwave

*Instead of a cabinet filler, I also have a small area where I store a step stool. The door from the trash cabinet was made wider to cover this storage area.

*3 cm granite Marona Cohiba - gorgeous, with floating bar and custom stainless steel corbels

*Plugmold which we installed on angled trim

*GE Monogram all refrigerator and all freezer - changing to Miele within a month

*Plumbing to move freezer water line

*De Dietrich induction cooktop from Salon Blue Ridge (fantastic to work with)

*Miele Double ovens with tray cabinet above

*Futurofuturo hood with 900 cfm,

*Relocated every appliance except fridge. Put separate freezer in butlers pantry

*Relocated cleanup sink and installed prep sink,

*Ran water supply and drain for a prep sink,

*Built out a butlers pantry into the garage space

*2 Miele dishwashers (one was our old one which we re-paneled and the new one is the Optima

*Sharp Microwave drawer,

*Kludi(prep) and eBay faucet (Cleanup)

*Blanco Sigranite sinks

*Water chiller and instant hot dispenser and tank

*Dual hot/cold water faucet

*4 built in soap dispensers Delta Brizo

*2 air switches

*Dual tapmaster works prep sink from both sides of island

*Tapmaster for clean up sink

*Recessed lighting as well as pucks in the upper cabinets,

Undercabinet lighting,

*Custom glass island light pendants,

*21 knobs and 60 pulls in stainless steel

*1 Soho Manhandle a total splurge!!

*Moved and replaced the kitchen window

*Moved the sliding patio door and rebuilt the concrete step on the patio

Finished kitchen

Finished Kitchen

Custom can storage (the two upper drawers are hidden behind the lower one so it lines up with all the other drawers)

Can storage

Pot hanger

Hanging Pot Storage

My absolute fav cabinet - the pullout pantry next to the ovens. It holds the Tupperware containers perfectly and when I pull it out I have EVERYTHING I need for baking right at my fingertips

Pull out pantry open

Cab above the ovens. It's 30" deep and holds SOOOO much

Vertical storage above ovens

Pot drawers

Pot drawer

New Dishwasher

Miele Optima Closed

Corner unit closed and open

Hafele Magic Corner II unit closed

Hafele Magic Corner II unit open

two way trash pullout


toe kick drawers


Cleanup area and fridge

Fridge and clean up sink

We love our kitchen. It ended up costing 50% over our original budget and that figure will be going up with the purchase of the Miele Fridge and freezer units.

One surprise cost came about because the KD had the wrong measurements and we had to move the sliding door to accommodate the cabinets so MEASURE and then CHECK the blueprints!


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RE: Any suggestions on storing pots and pans in upper cabinets? (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: loves2cook4six on 01.01.2009 at 11:16 pm in Kitchens Forum

Mine was trimmed by the cabinet maker to fit a 30" cabinet. I have 8 hooks as we turned the two used for actually hanging the rack so they could hold pots. Sally probably added the two optional hooks for 10.

Here is a link that might be useful: Container Store Pot rack


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RE: Adjustable shelves vs. pull outs (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: buehl on 12.22.2008 at 12:32 pm in Kitchens Forum

If it's not too late....

I would change the majority of pullouts & fixed shelves to drawers, including under the oven. Reasons:

(1) Economy of motion (one motion to open/close drawers vs 2 or 3 motions for pullout shelves)

(2) Drawers have higher sides so things don't fall off even when pushed to side while looking for something or when trying to cram all you can in a single drawer!

(3) Aesthetically, drawers usually look nicer than doors (JMHO!)

BTW...If you have a tall area for tray storage above the ovens, I would put a shelf in the bottom for platters, etc. and then then the tray storage on top of that. See the picture below for an example of tray space above double ovens. We used the cheap tray divider inserts ($5.99 each) from Wal-Mart...they work great! We were able to fit 3 across. Much cheaper than the Rev-A-Shelf tray dividers and no screws to "damage" shelves or cabinet bottoms.

[For those interested, base cabinet alternative for tray storage:]

Do you have a step-in or walk-in pantry? If so, I think that would be a better place to store the larger appliances...they can be stored waist-high and much easier to get out (or they can be stored on the floor or lower shelf).

Plates, Pots & Pans, & flour I would rather store in drawers in the appropriate areas, if I could. Flour in baking center, pots & pans under cooktop, and plates in dish storage.

Example of pot storage under the cooktop (frying pans, steamer, etc. in drawer below this one).

See the picture above for platter storage...I put all my platters over the ovens!


The only reason I can think of for adjustable/stationary shelves in a base cabinet is for open shelving.

I can't think of a single reason for fixed/non-adjustable shelves (especially those "half shelves"!)


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RE: Height between pantry shelves? (Follow-Up #5)

posted by: buehl on 01.16.2009 at 12:20 pm in Kitchens Forum

This is what we did in our corner step-in pantry:

[The MW, btw, didn't fit so it is not in the pantry as originally planned.]

Also, SharB once posted her measurements but the thread has long since fallen off. I saved them and here they are:


[Sharb's] pantry measures 4 feet wide by 5 feet deep.
Starting at the top:

18" top shelf to ceiling (Things I don't need often or are lightweight.)
15" to next shelf (cereal boxes, etc.)
10" to next (canned goods, etc.)
10" to next (canned goods, etc.)
16" to next (small appliances)
20" from bottom shelf to floor (extra waters, heavy items)

The depth of the back shelf and the right side 12". The left side is 6" and holds my [SharB's] husband's hot sauces and other small items.


clipped on: 01.26.2009 at 10:45 am    last updated on: 01.26.2009 at 10:45 am

Corner storage

posted by: oldalgebra on 12.30.2008 at 12:51 am in Kitchens Forum

Looks like I may not be able to avoid the dreaded corner black hole.
If money were not a object, which one would you install?
This one, A.
Or this one, B.
Or this one, C.Photobucket


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RE: Baking Center questions (Follow-Up #10)

posted by: lascatx on 01.25.2009 at 11:21 pm in Kitchens Forum

If you are going to store all those things in that area, where would you actually work?

I have a 4 ft section that functions as my baking area, but most of my small appliances are on the other side of the kitchen. My baking area has Measuring cups and bowls, extracts and decorating items, my food processor, my scale and discs and mixing bowls in the uppers. The bases have my spices in one top drawer next to the coooktop (dividing them for baking and cooking wasn't going to work, so I overlapped them). I have 2 deep drawers that hold flour, sugar, cocoa, chips, dried fruits, and other baking goodies. The other stack has a couple of shallow drawers with pot holders, wraps and baking parchment, some utensils, and my smaller baking pans in the bottom. The sheets and racks are above the ovens and the roasting pans and wok are in the drawer below the ovens (range didn't work for me either ---that was a big IF in my last post). My mixer and a utensil crock stay out on the counter.

That space works for baking because everything is right there. I can pull out a drawer and scoop flour or sugar -- it often never hits the counter. I also have an island to turn a round and work on if I need more space. It would be hard to work a lot there without the island. It would also be hard to work there without most of my supplies right at my fingertips. I'd actually like to have 2 feet more, but I'm very happy I nixed the drawing my KD came back with and that had only 3 feet there. I'm not sure that space will do what you want for you.


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RE: Miele DW too nice for me? (Follow-Up #11)

posted by: gibby3000 on 01.05.2009 at 10:15 pm in Appliances Forum

I have an Incognito - have had for over three years - would not purchase again. I like the looks of it and I like that I can load anything on the top or bottom unlike my old one. I also like the cutlery tray and the fact it is very quiet. Functionally it is problematic as it etches my glassware and all advice I follow to prevent that results in other items not getting clean. From everything I've read here and many other places, best I can tell is that this occurs due to the fact I have a whole house water softener and this DW just cannot function correctly in that situation.

I've adjusted to the problem by continually replacing my glassware and using only one cycle that is supposed to be "cool" enough to "prevent" etching. So lots of $$ spent for a top of the line dishwasher with extra cycles like china/crystal that I will never use. It looks nice and sounds good though!!


clipped on: 01.14.2009 at 05:11 pm    last updated on: 01.14.2009 at 05:12 pm

pizza with Miele and lots of + energy !

posted by: trailrunner on 01.04.2009 at 10:29 pm in Kitchens Forum

We had an amazing time. Made 10 pizzas. Had plenty left over for everyone to take some home. I used the Peter Reinhardt Neopolitan recipe . I will never use another so please erase the other one I posted. This was wonderful to work with. My helpers had NEVER made pizza before. I showed them how on one crust...the rest is history. See what you think ...

Here is a link that might be useful: pizza slideshow


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What a difference a year makes! Updated kitchen photo

posted by: stiles on 10.13.2008 at 03:20 am in Kitchens Forum

I have been reminiscing about how we were living at this time last year. We were living out of our garage and laundry room. It was painful and uncomfortable and I thought it would never end!

I originally posted pics of our 98% finished kitchen last March and I thought I would share this updated photo. We love our finished product and hopefully this will encourage all of you who are in the middle of your remodel to keep the faith! You too, by next year, will be enjoying your new kitchen.




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White Kitchens.....what makes it right?

posted by: mpeg on 10.19.2008 at 10:40 am in Kitchens Forum

When I started out doing my kichen it was going to be white. When we decided to take out the wall and open it up to the living room, I started having doubts. Then I chaged to mostly wood with some white glazed peices mixed in. Now I am second guessing my decisions because what I orginally wanted I am afraid of, but I still love it and it's what I've always wanted. I recently was reading another post on here echoing my concerns. You see some white kitchen that are just bland, and some that are just beautiful. I've not been able to really isolate what it is that makes a white kitchen right. I know there are many different elements that factor in and different styles that look right. But can someone sum this up? What elements need to be combined to make a white kitchen beautiful?


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Double or Single Kitchen Sink

posted by: crabapplemcn on 11.24.2008 at 08:20 pm in Kitchens Forum

We are building a home with contemporary style and were planning on doing a double undermount sink as link below. Our KD suggested just one single large sink. I like the idea, only reservation is when all the dishes get thrown into the sink, it would be hard to clean, wash, use disposal for them with so many dishes there. I wanted advice from those that have either option. Thanks

Here is a link that might be useful: Double Undermount


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RE: pot draw or pull outs for pots? (Follow-Up #15)

posted by: cdecker1 on 10.27.2008 at 09:29 pm in Kitchens Forum

I love my deep pot drawers! Here are some pics!
From kitchen and house drawer pics Oct 08

kitchen pics of new house


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RE: pot draw or pull outs for pots? (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: buehl on 10.27.2008 at 01:29 pm in Kitchens Forum

I store my pots & pans in drawers. I keep the lid for each pot or pan with it. My pot & pan drawers are 36" and located under my cooktop. I have 3 drawers there, a shallow drawer for my utensils (all except ladles, they don't fit there), next is my pot drawer (w/the ladles), and the bottom has my pans (frying pans).

Here's the pot drawer:
Pot Drawer (36&quot;)


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tray cabinets - top 1/2 wasted space

posted by: thinktoomuch on 07.26.2007 at 04:38 pm in Kitchens Forum

I am going to have a 12" wide full height base cabinet for tray storage. Has anyone added a horizontal shelf above the trays. It seems my widest tray is 15" so why have 27" high space. If I put a shelf 16" from the bottom of the cabinet will I regret it, If you have this situation please tell me what height your shelf is and what can you fit on it? Thanks


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Are pull out shelves a must have accessory?

posted by: mountainmusings on 11.21.2008 at 10:27 pm in Kitchens Forum

Is it worth the extra $$ upgrading to double pull out shelves in all applicable base cabinets? Do any of you choose to go with standard base cabinets without roll out shelving? If so, any regrets?


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Can anyone show me creamy or ivory cabinets with glaze?

posted by: teched on 02.07.2008 at 02:20 pm in Kitchens Forum

About to "pull the trigger" and I am making my final, final decisions. Can anyone show me pictures of their creamy/ivory cabinets with glaze?

My cabinet maker includes glazing without an upcharge (yeah! They do distressing and sand through too for "free"). I want an heirloom feel, but I have never had painted cabinets, and I could not imagine what the glazing would look like. I'm not going for Shaker or Farmhouse--think Colonial Williamsburg tavern.



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RE: Valance Ideas, Pic2 (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: nepool on 02.08.2008 at 09:26 pm in Kitchens Forum

Or this (This WILL be mine... also found online :)


Here is a link that might be useful: Hood that will be mine...


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What do you wish you had done differently?

posted by: robynpa on 07.29.2007 at 10:35 pm in Kitchens Forum

Hopefully nothing but if there is anything that you wish you had done differently when going though the kitchen renovation or after it was completed please tell.


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Everpure single water faucet (chiller) dripping

posted by: jaron80 on 01.27.2008 at 11:11 am in Kitchens Forum

We have an Everpure faucet which is now dripping continuously. Is there any way we ourselves can fix this without a plumber? I've posted this on the Plumbing forum as well. Thanks!


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Cabinet space around the rangetop

posted by: dcwesley on 11.14.2007 at 04:50 pm in Kitchens Forum

As a step towards trying to finalize my layout for my 13 x 11 kitchen, I am beginning to think about what I need to store by "zone". Today's thoughts revolve around those items I want to keep within easy reach of our gas 36" rangetop. As I organize my thought I have some questions about how others handle the following:

1. We currently have an electric stove with downdraft. I know we will now need a hood above the stove with plenty of power. When I look at pictures I notice some kitchens have only a hood over the stove, and some have a hood with a cabinet above. Are those cabinets cosmetic only hiding the ducting, or is there room for storage also? If there is storage room, what types of items do you store there?

2. We use cast iron to cook a lot. My husband would like to hang some of it for easy access. Since our ceilings are 78" (and he is 64") I am thinking the only place we could hang it would be over the rangetop. Does anybody out there do that? If so, does it interfere with the ventilation? Do the pans tend to get "ucky" from cooking?

3. I want a pull out 6" or 9" pantry base cabinet with two shelves immediately to one side of the rangetop to hold bottles of cooking wine, oil, etc on the bottom and spice jars on the top shelf. I saw this at a demo kitchen and loved it. It seemed so handy to have all those bottles there. Does anyone have this? Does it work for you?

4. On the other side of the rangetop I want a base cabinet with 4 drawers to store cooking utensils, hot pads, trivets, etc.

5. Under the rangetop I would like to store pans and lids, as well as our large strainers. My first inclination is to have two deep drawers? Are drawers sturdy enough to hold this much weight, especially if it includes cast iron? Or do you recommend shelves? Or cabinets with pull out shelves? If the rangetop is 36" do I use a 36" cabinet, or slightly larger?

What else should I have in the cooking zone? (The way I am thinking I also have prep, baking, cleanup, breakfast, and snacks.)

Thank you so much for all of your help. I am learning SO much here.


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