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RE: Your Favorite Pink David Austin Roses (Follow-Up #32)

posted by: molineux on 01.29.2014 at 12:29 pm in Roses Forum

My top three picks among the pink English Roses are HERITAGE, PRETTY JESSICA & SHARIFA ASMA. Heritage is a tall grower with reliable light warm pink blooms. I wouldn't want to live without it. Pretty Jessica is much smaller, no more than three feet tall, and has more cool tones in her color mix. Sharifa is a medium sized plant with porcelain pink blooms.

There are also many lovely pink repeat blooming Old Garden Roses. Among these my top picks are:

Baronne Prevost
Comte de Chambord
Duchesse de Brabant
Jacques Cartier (aka Marchesa Boccella)
La France, Cl. (forget the shrub, the climber is better)
Mme. Isaac Pereire & Mme. Ernest Calvat
Mrs. B.R. Cant
Souvenir de la Malmaison & Capitaine Dyel de Graville
Yolande d'Aragon

All these roses are wonderfully fragrant.

Image of Sharifa Asma by Christian (France) at Hortiplex.


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The (Almost) Mythical Everblooming Rose

posted by: ingrid_vc on 07.09.2012 at 12:45 pm in Antique Roses Forum

We've all read the claims, and sometimes succumbed to them, about roses that never stop blooming throughout the year, or throughout the growing season, depending on your location. The rubber meets the road in our own gardens where many times the reality is far less glamorous than we had hoped. In my hot garden, made even hotter by the necessary removal of a giant ficus near the house and above-average temperatures, I've had the opportunity to discover which roses meet the criterion of almost constant bloom. Sadly, most of them don't. Admittedly some of them are too immature to comment on, although the eager bloomers tend to show that trait fairly early. In a garden of approximately 85 roses I have a precious handful that seem to keep going no matter what. They are:

Souvenir de la Malmaison and to a slightly lesser extent its sports Mme. Cornelissen and Kronprinzessin Viktoria von Preussen
Sophy's Rose
Belinda's Dream
Mrs. B.R. Cant (once she matured a bit)
Westside Road Cream Tea (it seems to have stopped putting out incredibly ugly and tiny gray roses in the summer now that it's in its third year)
Miss Atwood

I'd love to hear about your (almost) everbloomers. If you could say a word or two about your gardening conditions and climate that would make your list even more valuable.



Double with fragrance
BR Cant
Madame Alfred Carrier
Belinda's Dream
La France
Souv de la Malmaison
Lady Hillingdon
Annie L McDowell
Julia Child
Rose de Rescht
Earth Song
Golden Buddha
Duchess de Brabant

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RE: The (Almost) Mythical Everblooming Rose (Follow-Up #29)

posted by: luxrosa on 07.11.2012 at 06:21 pm in Antique Roses Forum

I undertook a rose bloom study over a period of 3 years, after having a spinal injury which kept me at home. I still hoped to do SOMETHING good for the world, and as I could not move much, I kept to a couple of gardens to keep my state of mind off of my predicament. Roses brought me great joy at a time when I was in physical discomfort.

This bloom study was done in the San Franciscan Bay area, and so includes roses from the China, Old Garden Tea, and Noisette classes. The China and Old Garden Tea roses can produce nearly twice as many weeks of bloom per year as any Hybrid Tea or Austin rosebush can in this area because roses from the Evergreen Trinity Classes, are only leafless and bloomless for a few weeks to c. 2 and 1/2 months per year, and Hybrid Teas and Austin roses do drop their leaves earlier in the year and remain leafless until early spring, and bloom-less until late April on average as a group.
I appraised, and documented 218 rosebushes from a total of 14 rose classes and chose only those that were grown in a
-no spray garden
-were healthy and bloomed normally for that particular cultivar.

The next two years I counted every bloom on every bush, carefully dividing each bush with green garden tape so the count would be true. If I could have moved more I would have found this to be a most tedious function.
However I did this because I thought this was important to document after I had read a rose catalog that listed many dozens of Hybrid Teas and the catalog had rated the Hybrid Teas as blooming as often as Old Garden Tea roses, and I suspected this was not true.
After the 3 year period I found that one rose stood above all others:
'Lady Hillingdon' an evergreen rose of the Old Garden Tea class.
It bloomed with never less than 30% of the number of blossoms that it had produced during its' peak bloom period and maintained this remarkable bloom production for 180 days straight. Then in mid-July it stopped bloom and bud production for nearly a month and in September bloomed again, continuously until the middle of December.
This is without ever being deadheaded or fertilized for that matter.
Because the China, and Old Garden Teas have the most constant bloom habit a I list their bloom in the number of months per year they bloom, in the East San Francisco Bay area, California. which includes Oakland, Richmond, and Emeryville.

The number of months listed , is typical for each rose class.
China M/M/M/-M/M/M/-M.M/M.+1/2 for blooming on average 8 to 9 1/2 months out of the year in our Mediterranean
climate. M.A.C. is the most constant bloomer of the Tea-Noisettes in the study, it begins bloom as early as late February in some years, but more often in March when most of the Old Garden Teas begin to bloom.

The Noisettes are the next to begin bloom, and they do not produce their first flush of the year here until the Florabundas start to bloom in late April, and on average the bush Noisettes produce bloom M-M-M to M-M-M-M months (3 to 4) months out of the year with 'Nastarana' being a remarkable exception, and blooming nearly constantly, like a China rose on very slender pedicles, after its first flush through December.

Florbunda =M-M-M- to M-M-M-M- and 1/2 months each year. The shorter the pedicles in a cultivar the more re-bloom.
Hybrid Musk roses average = M-M-M- to M-M-M-M-.
Hybrid Teas and Austin roses only produce moderate bloom, 3 to 4 months on average each year, because none of these are evergreen roses, and have longer pecicles than China, Tea, and Noisettes, and H.T.s and Austin roses have a rather long dormancy in winter, even here.
Among the Austins Mary Rose blooms most often at c. 4 and 1/2 months of the year.
This is why I'd like to write a pamphlet for the Old Rose Celebration about how Old Garden Teas, produce by far the most large rose blossoms each year of any rose class, by far because of their;
- short pedicles
- evergreen nature
-twiggy growth habit which allows for a high percent of blossoms per square foot of canopy.

I have the complete list of the 218 rose cultivars and the number of days of bloom per year in field notebooks, someday I will type the whole thing up.

Love to you all,


Lady Hillingdon?
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Easy Propagation Chamber

posted by: little_dani on 10.05.2005 at 08:34 pm in Plant Propagation Forum

I make a little propagation chamber that is so easy, and so reliable for me that I thought I would share the idea. I have not seen one like it here, and I did look through the FAQ, but didn't find one there either. I hope I did not miss it, and I hope I do not offend anyone by being presumptive in posting this here.

That said....

This is what you will need.
A plastic shoebox, with a lid. They come in various sizes, any will do.

Soil less potting mix, half peat, half perlite, or whatever is your favorite medium.
A little clay pot, with the drain hole plugged with caulking or silicone. If this is a new pot, scrub it with some steel wool to be sure it doesn't have a sealer on it. You want the water to seep through it.
Rooting hormone powder or liquid, or salix solution from the willow tree.
Plant material, snippers. I am going to pot some Plectranthus (a tall swedish ivy) and a Joseph's Coat, 'Red Thread'. I already have some succulents rooted in this box. I will take them out and pot them up later, DH has a new cacti pot he wants to put them in.
You can see here, I hope, that I fill the clay pot to the top with rain water, well water, or distilled water. I just don't use our tap water, too much chlorine and a ph that is out of sight.

I pour a little of the hormone powder out on a paper plate or a piece of paper, so that I don't contaminate the whole package of powder. And these little 'snippers' are the best for taking this kind of cuttings.

This is about right on the amount of hormone to use. I try to get 2 nodes per cutting, if I can. Knock off the excess. It is better to have a little too little than to have too much.
Then, with your finger, or a pencil, or stick, SOMETHING, poke a hole in the potting mix and insert your cutting. Pull the potting mix up around the cutting good and snug.

When your box is full, and I always like to pretty much fill the box, just put the lid on it, and set it in the shade. You don't ever put this box in the sun. You wind up with boiled cuttings. YUK!

Check the cuttings every few days, and refill the reservoire as needed. Don't let it dry out. If you happen to get too wet, just prop the lid open with a pencil for a little while.
This is a very good method of propagation, but I don't do roses in these. The thorns just make it hard for me, with my big fingers, to pack the box full. All kinds of other things can be done in these. Just try it!



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RE: Easy Propagation Chamber (Follow-Up #30)

posted by: little_dani on 05.27.2006 at 03:04 pm in Plant Propagation Forum

Right now, the temp is 96 degrees, May 27th. It got hot early this year.

Jerry says the main thing is the night temperature. Night temps should be consistantly 70 degrees or higher. A couple of weeks ago, we had a cool front come in with some 50something degree nights, and growers who took their cuttings before then are having problems with them now.

We are rooting roses, roses, and more roses. Crepe Myrtles, boxwoods, jatropha, sages and salvias, azaleas, loropetalum, hydrangea, gardenia. Everything is fair game now!



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RE: Feedback: Your experience with these roses! (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: lovemysheltie on 04.13.2010 at 08:30 am in Antique Roses Forum

I have grown Clotilde Soupert, Reine de Violettes and Rose de Rescht from your list. All are tough, tough roses that needed no mollycoddling whatsoever in my zone 5 winters.

Clotilde used to ball for me sometimes in Spring but it was not very often. And she was extremely prolific with her blooms from the get go. Stays short and smells lovely. Has a cute appearance partly due to mounding shape and partly due to delicacy of blooms, thinner stems but is a tough as nails rose. Must buy!

Rose de Rescht is also tough as nails, very prolific bloomer. All my roses are own root and this guy sent out a little baby plant a foot away, which I potted up. Smells lovely, disease resistant. Stayed short for me although not as short as Clotilde above, cute mounding shape.

I didn't have Reine de Violettes very long but she was almost thornless so I placed her next to my armchair on the patio. Beautiful fragrant blooms, vigorous, lovely shape. Not as disease resistant as Clotilde and RdR but then again I had placed Reine in a slightly shaded spot due to her shade-tolerance. So that may have been an issue, I don't know.

I do not spray my roses ever. And these 3 roses certainly did very well for me without any kind of spraying in Zone 5, although your conditions may be very different.

I would recommend all three of these roses. They are all fantastic.


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RE: Anyone grow Delbard roses (like Dames de Chenonceau)? (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: jerome on 06.12.2011 at 01:22 am in Roses Forum

I have Dames de Chenonceau as of March 2011. It has put out one flower, and that's all I need...spectacular. It has a myrrh fragrance, but mixed with fruity and old rose undertones. The color is magnificent - a blue pink outside warming to peach/apricot in the center. But that description is not subtle enough. The plant is still a baby, and I'll do anything I need to do to coddle it along. Looking forward to the mature plant.


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Cinderella is thornless. See this list too. (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: drasaid on 04.18.2005 at 08:48 pm in Rose Propagation Forum

Alfred Colomb (Hybrid Perpetual, Lacharme, 1865)
Archiduchesse Elizabeth d'Autriche
Banksiae Alba
Banksiae Banksiae
Banksiae Lutea
Banksian Yellow
Berries 'n' Cream
Berries 'n' Cream, Cl.
Calypso (Climber, Poulsen, 1998)
Carousel (Kordes)
C�cile Brunner
Champion of the World
Charles Bonnet (Bourbon, Bizot, 1868)
Charles Lef�bvre
Climbing Berries 'n' Cream
Cologne (Grandiflora, McGredy, 1998)
Constellation� (Miniature, Saville, 1999)
Cornelia (Hybrid Musk, Pemberton, 1925)
Doris Bennett
Dream� (Hybrid Tea, Kordes, 1979)
Dupuis Jamain
Ecstasy (Hybrid Tea, Kordes, 1994)
Evergreen Multiflora
Fair Jewel
First Gold
Fortun� Besson
George Arends
Gloire Lyonnaise
Imp�ratrice �lisabeth d'Autriche
Iowa Belle
Kathleen Harrop
La Reine
Lady Banks Rose
Lady Banks White
Lady Banks Yellow
Lady Banks' Rose
Limelight (Hybrid Tea, Strickland, 1996)
Linda Campbell
Little Pinkie
Madame Brosse (Hybrid Perpetual, Lacharme, 1865)
Madame C�cile Brunner
Madame de Graw
Madame Jeanne Balandreau
Madame Victor Verdier
Madame Victor Verdier
Mademoiselle C�cile Br�nner
Mademoiselle C�cile Brunner
Maltese Rose
Marguerite Bressac (Hybrid Perp., Lacharme, 1861)
Marguerite Guillard
Marshall P. Wilder (syn. for 'Alfred Colomb')
Memory (Hybrid Tea, Kordes)
Mercedes� (Floribunda, Kordes, 1974)
Mme Jeanne Balandreau
Mme. Brosse (Hybrid Perpetual, Lacharme, 1865)
Mme. C�cile Brunner
Mme. de Graw
Monsieur Victor Verdier
Moonlight (Hybrid Tea, Kordes)
Mrs. de Graw
Mrs. DeGraw
Mrs. John Laing
Naina� (Hybrid Tea, Kordes, 1998)
Nancy Gardiner
Neige d'Avril
Patricia Lewis
Paul Jamain
Paul N�ron
Paul Neyron
People's Princess
Reine des Francais (synonym 'La Reine')
Reine des Violettes
Roberta (synonym for 'Heritage')
Rose de la Reine (Hybrid Perp., Laffay, 1842)
Rosier de Lady Banks
Saint Patrick (Hybrid Tea, Strickland, 1996)
Sandra '99
Scarlett O'Hara� (HT, Christensen & Carruth, 1987)
Silky Mist
Smooth Prince
Smooth Romance
Snowdance (Interplant)
Souv. de Madame Jeanne Balandreau
Souv. de Mme Jeanne Balandreau
Souvenir de Jeanne Balandreau
Souvenir de Jeanne Balandreau
Souvenir de Madame Jeanne Balandreau
Souvenir de Mme Jeanne Balandreau
Souvenir du Docteur Jamain
Souvenir du Docteur Jamain
Souvenir du Dr. Jamain
St. Patrick�
Super Bowl
Superb Tuscan
Superb Tuscany
Sweet Honey�
Sweetheart Rose
Tall Poppy
The Autumnal Centifolia
The Banksian Rose
The Sweetheart Rose
The Velvet Rose
Thornless Purple
Thornless Rose
Tickled Pink (Hybrid Tea, Schuurman, 1995)
Tuscany Superb
Ulrich Brunner
Ulrich Brunner Fils
Vick's Caprice
Victor Verdier (Hybrid Perpetual, Lacharme, 1859)
and of course that wonderful mauve
Z�phirine Drouhin
This list was cut and pasted from HelpMeFind roses.


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RE: Bourbon rose Louise Odier (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: jerijen on 08.08.2011 at 12:12 pm in Antique Roses Forum

They don't do well in much of Southern California, either. Along our coastal strip, many Bourbons are much-troubled by fungal disease, and can be shy bloomers.

The shining exception is 'Gloire des Rosomanes,' ("Ragged Robin") which is rarely OUT of bloom, and has lovely foliage. But it doesn't seem very "Bourbon-ish" to me.



Perhaps Louise isn't meant to be in my garden?
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RE: Suggestions for roses like Grandmother's Hat? (Follow-Up #22)

posted by: jerome on 07.19.2012 at 02:24 pm in Antique Roses Forum

Jeri, Yolande is a rose I prune down to hip height every January - maybe even mid thigh level. It gets bushier for me and blooms often. It is the only old variety (along with Jacques Cartier) that I prune so severely. Yd'A blooms more consistently each year. Really like it.


Prune some canes down below for lower blooms?
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RE: Suggestions for roses like Grandmother's Hat? (Follow-Up #19)

posted by: jerijen on 07.18.2012 at 03:45 pm in Antique Roses Forum

Yolande d'Aragon mildewed for you?
And here, I thought I was Queen Of Mildew!

It never mildewed here, but annoyingly insisted on blooming way up at the top, where I couldn't see the blooms. I think it does better here if wrapped around a tripod.



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RE: listen to her: Yolande d'Aragon (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: jerijen on 07.21.2013 at 10:14 pm in Antique Roses Forum

She grew well over my head, and was disease-free, but all of her blooms were up around 7-ft.

At the Stagecoach Inn, not far from here, she's wound on a tripod, which forced her to bloom, at a local level. Much better.



To replace Heritage?
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RE: Looking for info about Rose de Rescht and Yolanda d'Aragon (Follow-Up #11)

posted by: molineux on 11.03.2010 at 05:09 pm in Antique Roses Forum

If I had to choose between the two then it would be YOLANDE D'ARAGON. The fragrance is so strong it will reach out, knock you over the head, then drag you by the hair into a giggling state of rosy euphoria. Completely, totally orgasmic. Not even the famous Mme. Isaac Pereire can match it for intensity and consistency. The only other rose I've smelled that had a stronger fragrance is GERTRUDE JEKYLL, and even then I'm not too sure. The flower form is sheer perfection and the rich rose pink color must be seen to be believed. Not too thorny either. GET IT!!!


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Dames de Chenonceau

posted by: jerome on 02.15.2012 at 04:18 pm in Antique Roses Forum

Just a quick plug for this rose. It's amazing...I wish I could make a hedge of it somewhere. The blooms are magnificent and of the same color complexity as, say, M. Tillier. It has a beautiful shape, even as a young plant (the one here went in as a gallon plant in March of 2011) and I love the fragrance. I don't have a picture yet, but will post one when it goes into spring bloom. If you have room - get this rose.


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RE: Superior Fragrance, Superior Roses (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: krista_4 on 10.29.2012 at 09:05 pm in Antique Roses Forum

Stanwell Perpetual is a wonderful rose, almost always in bloom with a wonderful fragrance, very charming.

Blush Noisette is hardy for me here and is about 3 1/2 - 4 feet tall. Lovely blooms in clusters, good repeat bloom.

Mme Isaac Pereire is a winner for me, spectacular blooms and fragrance, good repeat bloom.

Souv de la Malmaison is a lovely rose that blooms well in summer, lovely fragrance.

Reine des Violettes is a beautiful rose, also very fragrant with charming blooms and a graceful growth habit, thornless.

Comte de Chambord and Baronne Prevost, incredible fragrance, hardy, wonderful big blooms.

Duchesse de Rohan, slow to mature, but is a beautiful rose.


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Superior Fragrance, Superior Roses

posted by: RDamascena on 10.28.2012 at 09:16 pm in Antique Roses Forum

This summer I became very interested in roses. By the end of the summer I accumulated a collection of about 30.

There were three qualification for making what I consider to be a very exclusive list; Hardiness (with a few years of indoor growing conditions to get established if necessary), Fragrance, and Reputation . My wife is from Iran, so many of the roses were bought in an attempt to create the scents of Iran in our garden i.e. the Damask and Musk fragrance (which is the only place where I took 'risk' with modern roses that have not gone through the scrupulus competition of rose success). I would love to hear your critiques of my list as I feel I will benefit immensely from it . Before the summer started I knew nothing of roses, but by reading these forums along with borrowing rose books from my local botanical garden I have concluded with a summer of fun and obsessive research.

(Sorry for Spelling)

GALLICA: Belle de Cercy
DAMESCENA: Kazanlik, Ispahan, MMe Hardy, Autumn Damask
CENTIFOLIA: Centifolia sp (Cabbage Rose)
ALBA: Maiden's Blush, Felicity Parmentier
MUSK: Rosa Moschata, Nastarana

BOURBON: Souvenir de la Malmaison, MMe Isaac Pereire
HYBRID PERPETUAL: Reine Des Violettes, Baronne Provost, Duchesse de Rohan, Pierre Notting
PORTLAND: Portland from Glendora, Compte de Chambord
NOISETTE: Blush Noisette
TEA: Lady Hillington Climbing
TEA NOISETTE: Gloire De Dijon
HYBRID RUGOSA: Blanc Double De Coubert, Roseria del Hay
HYBRID SPINOSSIMA: Stanwell Perpetual

HYBRID MUSK: Secret Garden Musk Climber, Matchball, Reverend Seidel
HYBRID TEA: September Morn, Climbing Crimson Glory

As I've mentioned, I would love to hear your comments, trials and tribulations with any of these roses in Denver zone 5b-6, and anything else you have to say. Cheers, Eric


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RE: Paul Neyron espaliered? (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: roseseek on 01.04.2014 at 01:01 pm in Antique Roses Forum

Yes, it's been done. I had clients in The Palisades who did it with pretty good effect. EXCEPT, in a beach type climate, that rose is even more addicted to rust, black spot and mildew than it is in hotter, more inland climates. The only thing which kept foliage on it was spraying it every two weeks with Ultra Fine oil (one tbs per gallon) and Miracle Gro foliar feed combined with the oil. Between the diseases and saw fly larvae, Neyron was a leper.

One summer afternoon, the couple came into the nursery with a gorgeous bouquet of Paul Neyron. She was crying due to her joy at actually HAVING the flowers to cut. She'd grown the plant for several years rather unsuccessfully, until I suggested she espalier it to provide better air circulation and ability to access the plant with the spray. She didn't keep it much longer than that after realizing there were so many other gorgeous, fragrant roses she could grow so much more easily. Sometimes, you have to let people discover that lesson for themselves. Kim


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RE: Paul Neyron espaliered? (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: malcolm_manners on 01.04.2014 at 09:48 am in Antique Roses Forum

I'd think it worth a try, but I do wonder about the result. PN is usually pretty stiffly upright, and blooms only at the tip/top of each cane. So you may find it a challenge to have bloom anywhere except along the top arc of your espalier. But with some careful pruning of a many-stemmed plant, so that some canes are much shorter than others, you may make it work.


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Well Being- Harkness Shrub Rose

posted by: the_morden_man on 08.25.2006 at 04:18 pm in Roses Forum

I posted this on another forum and figured I would post here also...

This rose is already one of my favorite roses and to me, the best I have planted in quite some time.

Although I personally cannot speak to hardiness yet, I have a rose friend who has grown this through an Ontario winter and indicated that cane dieback was about 50%-60% in a zone 5 winter without protection. Last winter was a mild one, but that is still much hardier than your average shrub rose.

Disease resistance has been "good" to "very good" for me this year. They did exhibit some BS (I do not spray), but I find this not unusual for a 1st year rose since they have to work so hard to establish roots, create growth, bloom, repeat and still fight off pests and disease. Many roses I have planted over the years will BS and/or mildew in the 1st year and then rarely exhibit this again in subsequent years once established. If they do, they usually receive a short stay in my garden.

The vigour of Well Being is quite high and it will grow rapidly once happy in its new home. Mine are all from Pickering and grafted to multiflora and planted with the graft about 3-4" deep.

The blooming is sensational both in quantity and speed of repeat. Even as 1st year plants, these roses have been rarely out of bloom and I would assume that once established, they could be labelled as "continual bloomers".

Well Being grows upright and bushy with very nice, plentiful foilage that shows off the blooms to perfection. It throws out large sprays of bloom that are nicely held above the plant and the necks are strong enough to hold the blooms for good display.

The scent of this rose alone, is almost enough to warrant its inclusion in any garden, even if its other attributes weren't as outstanding, as they in fact are. In 2003, at the city of Nantes in France, it took 1st prize in the competition for perfumed roses. This is the only trial for new roses where prizes are awarded solely on the basis of perfume. The judges described it as follows, "To the offactive senses, it presents a magnificent dominance of citrus, notably grapefruit, infused with lime. This upper note is supported by the character of fruity black-currant, on a base of typical rose perfume. It should be underlined that the rose itself is in harmony with the sheer quality of its perfume."

If this rose was an Austin, you can bet your @ss that it would be one of the most popular and asked for roses around.

I have taken literally a hundred photo's of this rose already this year. I quickly uploaded a few of them for you. My enabling is now complete. Resistance is futile...:)


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RE: Huntington climbers (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: kittymoonbeam on 04.27.2013 at 08:49 pm in Rose Gallery Forum

Pierre de Ronsard


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RE: Reine de Violettes (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: seil on 04.12.2013 at 12:28 am in Roses Forum

RdV has very flexible canes naturally so you don't need to peg. If left to grow naturally it will fountain out in arches on it's own creating more laterals and blooms. Just keep it protected from the deer if possible. She's a healthy grower and should bounce right back.


Flexible so they can be wrapped around pillars or a nice fountain shape if left alone.
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RE: Best roses of the year - please post your pics. (Follow-Up #10)

posted by: jerijen on 12.22.2011 at 02:04 pm in Antique Roses Forum

One of this year's surprise Garden Stars (here, at least) has been "De la Vina Mystery."

Found in Santa Barbara, CA, in front of a California Cottage style home of some age, she was growing up through an 8-ft-tall Eugenia hedge, reaching for light and air.
In my garden, she has remained quite compact and upright to parhaps 3.5 ft., well-clothed with mid-green leaves.

For the HP she appears to be, "De la Vina Mystery" is surprisingly disease-resistant, rarely spotted with mildew, and resisting rust until late fall -- all the while repeating bloom from spring, right on through summer and fall -- if deadheaded.


Jeri in Coastal Ventura County, SoCal


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RE: Growth/Rebloom on GH vs Ulrich Brunner Fils (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: jerijen on 01.11.2012 at 01:45 pm in Antique Roses Forum

I have not grown Ulrich Brunner fils. My tolerance-level for red HPs was long-ago exceeded. -- G --

GramHat likes sun, that she does. But she can do OK with half-day sun.
For us, She's a "cropper," producing one big flush after another, and doing it as often as you care to deadhead her. All of ours (and we must have a dozen -- DH loves her) are just now coming into full bloom again.

Because we don't prune our Grandmother's Hats, they never stop repeating, and there are few times when I can't pick some for the house. In fact, I think I should pick a big bouquet of Grandmother's Hat and Mme. Berkeley, to take to the Santa Barbara Rose Society meeting, just to be contrary -- because, you know, roses shouldn't be blooming now, and they HAVE to be pruned. -- NOT! --

Jeri in Coastal Ventura Co.,
Where it is at last chilly and wintery!


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RE: So I'm getting more Austins...including climbers but have som (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: blendguy on 05.08.2011 at 05:34 pm in Antique Roses Forum

Hi Jeff,

I'd recommend The Generous Gardener or St Swithin for a climber, not red, but both of them seem to be good choices. I have Spirit of freedom and I'm increasingly underwhelmed by it.

I grew Queen of Sweden at my old house and I liked it a lot, but beware that it is a very upright rose... basically shooting straight up with lovely cupped roses on the very tips. It's very vertical.

I also grew Tess, and I thought it a decent enough plant but would never grow it again.

The Prince too, also grew very vertically, wonderful blooms but not a "bush", rather some sticks with amazing flowers on it. I'd grow it again, but in the back of something else. Same for Queen of Sweden.

I really like Sister Elizabeth. Short plant, smallish flowers, but really great shape, strong scent, and very good rebloom.

I'm a fan of the highly-scented English roses. Today was the first bloom of the year on Sceptre'd Isle and the scent is just fantastic. Between my old house and my new place, I've probably grown about 50 Austins, and my favourites (at this point) would include:
Jude the Obscure
Lady E. H.
Jubilee Celebration
St. Cecelia
Sceptre'd Isle
Harlow Carr
Gentle Hermione
The Ingenious Mr. Fairchild
Alan Titchmarsh
Sister Elizabeth

Of course, your climate will make all the difference, especially in 5b, I've grown English Roses only in California and England.... but those are the ones I wouldn't want to be without.

New to me this year, but roses I liked when I visited David Austin's nursery last year include: The Alnwick Rose, The Wedgewood Rose, Munstead Wood and Princess Alexandra of Kent. On the wishlist for next year some oldies like Pretty Jessica, Brother Cadfael, Abe Darby, Mary Magdalene and Lilac Rose; and of course, the new roses will be revealed soon, so perhaps something from there will be especially tempting.

Anyway, hope something in this helps you out, good luck with the new planting, I'm sure your mom will love them!


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RE: A bunch of questions for rose growers (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: nanadoll on 09.09.2011 at 03:58 am in Roses Forum

All my Austin's but one seem to require lots of sun. The exception is Brother Cadfael which has done well in both part shade and full sun environments in two different locations. Bro has been a monster workhorse for me, and one of my most dependable roses. On the other hand, I have had several Eglantines (sp?) in those same two locations, and they like lots of sun, even though their pale pink blooms crisp and fade terribly in the hot sun. Diane


Brother Cadfael which has done well in both part shade and full sun
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RE: Confusion about Rose bush width/advice on where to plant (Follow-Up #5)

posted by: nanadoll on 07.03.2012 at 04:49 pm in Antique Roses Forum

stacian--I just modified my width of BC on your other thread. I have grown BC in two different locations. One grew beautifully with a northern exposure and some shade--not sure how many hours of sun, though. Even with shade it got huge and bloomed a lot. The blooms lasted better with that exposure than my current BC which has somewhat more sun--eastern exposure, but grows in front of a heat reflecting wall. It is freestanding and doesn't lean against the wall at all. Diane


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RE: Confusion about Rose bush width/advice on where to plant (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: jerijen on 07.03.2012 at 12:34 pm in Antique Roses Forum

Grandmother's Hat will be a tough, vigorous rose for you, and generous of bloom. You might occasionally see some blackspot, in a particularly wet, warm spring, but it is otherwise very much a disease-free rose here.

(For this reason, my husband plants it EVERYWHERE.)

You may plant it and just leave it alone, and it will grow easily 7 ft. tall, but only maybe 4 ft. wide. Wider at the top, narrower at the bottom.

You might, instead, espalier it along a fence, as a moderate climber to 6-7 ft.

OR you can prune it like a Grandiflora, in which case it will make a 4-to-5-foot round and tall BALL of a plant, with blooms all over.

The rose doesn't care. She'll do what you want.
You will have maximum bloom if you deadhead after each flush, but for the first couple of years, I would not deadhead HARD. I'd just snap off blooms, until the plant is well-established.

The only thing she DOESN'T much like is hot, dry, Santa Ana winds, which will crisp her blooms in a nanosecond. Remove them, and she'll make more.

We grow her in morning sun, afternoon sun, all-day sun -- in great air circulation, and less-good air-circulation. She doesn't seem to care. We even grow her under a huge seedling avocado tree, where she blooms away like mad.



Grandmother's Hat will be a tough, vigorous rose for you, and generous of bloom.

You may plant it and just leave it alone, and it will grow easily 7 ft. tall, but only maybe 4 ft. wide. Wider at the top, narrower at the bottom.

OR you can prune it like a Grandiflora, in which case it will make a 4-to-5-foot round and tall BALL of a plant, with blooms all over.

We grow her in morning sun, afternoon sun, all-day sun -- in great air circulation, and less-good air-circulation. She doesn't seem to care. We even grow her under a huge seedling avocado tree, where she blooms away like mad.

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RE: Confusion about Rose bush width/advice on where to plant (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: dublinbay on 07.03.2012 at 12:31 pm in Antique Roses Forum

Hmmm--thought I just posted a response, but it seems to have disappeared. So let me try again.

I haven't grown most of the roses you list--except Angel Face (terrible disease magnet) and Eden Climber. Yes, Eden Climber can be grown on a pillar and will bloom along the length of the cane IF you wrap the canes around kinda barberpole fashion around the pillar (and tie the canes in place), but you need to do that while the canes are fairly young, or they will get to thick and rigid. If you let it grow straight up, you will get blooms only on the ends--10 ft in the air.

I grow my Eden Climber in mostly full sun. Don't know how it would tolerate shade, but if it gets at least 6 hours of sun a day, I wouldn't think it would object to several hours of shade also.

It does have sharp thorns--if that matters to you.

Here is my Eden. Not the best picture, but you get the general idea of Eden on a pillar.

Good luck with your planning.



Eden Climber can be grown on a pillar and will bloom along the length of the cane IF you wrap the canes around kinda barberpole fashion around the pillar (and tie the canes in place), but you need to do that while the canes are fairly young, or they will get to thick and rigid. If you let it grow straight up, you will get blooms only on the ends--10 ft in the air.
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