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RE: What shape island yields the most seating? (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: lagrant on 07.09.2009 at 10:19 am in Kitchens Forum

I had a typical U-shaped kitchen, with one part being a peninsula that was next to a breakfast area with a bay window as well. I completely changed the shape to accomodate our family of 7 - and created seating for 8. I struggled with what shape to make the part that extended in to the bay window - and opted to not angle it at all. Hope this helps!!



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RE: Best way to make a built in buffet look 'built in' (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: kompy on 07.06.2009 at 08:01 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here's what I did with my 1910 dining room. There was just a niche and I had a cabinet built to fill the space. Because of the short window, up high, my buffet is taller than kitchen height. But I can still use it during dinner for excess dishes, or water pitchers. The cabinet is 21" deep and we love the storage.

I had two outlets installed on the matching countertop for buffet lamps.

I think you could do a nice 'furniture' piece with or without a wall....but it will look more 'built-in' if the wall is deeper.



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RE: french door fridge...counter depth vs regular (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: timber.j on 05.23.2009 at 08:06 pm in Kitchens Forum

We have a large family, so counterdepth was not an option with the smaller capacity.
We did, however, recess the fridge into the wall behind it, so it sits about three inches farther back than it would have. The wall is framed with a recess where the fridge goes, with a piece of mdf or masonite or something like that on the back, instead of sheetrock on both sides.
Like this:


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RE: counter height window pictures please (Follow-Up #17)

posted by: fran1523 on 02.10.2009 at 02:44 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here's mine. I love it.

Sink and Window

Close up of counter behind the sink


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RE: How to make cabinets up to the ceiling look good - 10 ft ceil (Follow-Up #11)

posted by: lishaana on 06.25.2009 at 05:27 am in Kitchens Forum

We have 11 foot ceilings and did stacked 18" glass fronted cabs on 42" uppers. We also staggered the heights for more interest.


The middle cab was missing the top part of the crown moulding trim in the above pic.



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RE: 4'' Broom Closet from Ikeafans (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: rmkitchen on 02.11.2008 at 04:17 pm in Kitchens Forum

Hi buehl!

I'm not a member of ikeafans but I do have these pictures courtesy of dianalo:

Our cabinetmaker has made one for us and I believe it's six inches wide (I think because he gave me the "okay" to purchase a five inch pull for it). It will sit in between our freezer and pantry and he's kitted it with stainless peg board so we'll be able to hang all sorts of doo-dads. I believe part of it is sitting in our raw kitchen right now (out of the way of the drywallers) but won't be installed until next week at the earliest. I'll be happy to post pictures of it once it's in.

I'm so grateful to dianalo for posting these photos last summer -- ours is not an enormous kitchen and this should be a clean-up godsend!


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RE: Pantry photos/ pics of pantries (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: buehl on 02.04.2009 at 02:44 am in Kitchens Forum

I have a pantry suggestion... Ventilate!

Walk-in pantry -- can I see yours?

Would A Walk-In Pantry Be a Major Selling Point To You?

Wood or wire shelves for walk-in pantry

What size should a step-in corner pantry be?

Buehl's Pantry Pictures

And here's a preview:

The left side has 15" shelves and holds, top-to-bottom, cereals, snacks & drinks, gluten-free foods, small appliances, and two bins--one for yams & one for white potatoes. (Small appliance shelf now holds cookbooks. Toaster Oven & coffee maker are now on the floor.)

The right side holds, top-to-bottom, paper towels, baking/cooking supplies (next 3 shelves), small appliances, more baking supplies. The floor has a stool & paper plates.


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RE: Island color & stools~Help please.... (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: boxerpups on 06.19.2009 at 08:11 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here are some pics that might help with the
kitchen seating ideas.

Bungalo Bliss
bungalo bliss 2


Erikanh suggested this kind and here it is in
a kitchen. I like it. Google image



Live Aux

I love these but this is my inspiration pic so I am
a bit biased. HB


harmonyandhome peacockdesigns

Another image of peacock designs





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RE: Do you like your tray storage? Can you share the details plea (Follow-Up #11)

posted by: buehl on 06.17.2009 at 07:07 pm in Kitchens Forum

Mine is above my ovens as well. To pull a tray out, you only need to reach the bottom corner; you don't need to reach the top. So, I opted to put the shelf only a few inches above the floor of the cabinet and then put my tray dividers on the shelf. This allowed me to use the bottom section for platters & griddle. The trays are still accessible and I don't have any wasted space on top.

Also, I've linked a thread from 2007 discussing almost the exact same question.

Here is a link that might be useful: Thread: tray cabinets - top 1/2 wasted space


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RE: Do you like your tray storage? Can you share the details plea (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: plllog on 06.17.2009 at 04:24 pm in Kitchens Forum

My mother designed this with her cabinet maker back in the '60's. I'm getting the same thing in my butler's pantry area, because there wasn't a good place to do it more centrally. It's unbelievable how much fits in the horizontal shelves. Place mats, bread boards, cookie sheets, cooling racks, spare roasting pan, hot tray, serving platters, trays. Basically, anything long and shallow.


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RE: smaller drawers on bottom of base cabs? (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: gizmonike on 04.27.2009 at 03:49 pm in Kitchens Forum

I think it would look strange to have short drawers on the bottom; it just looks more stable to have short at the top, deep at the bottom.

We store trays, rack, & pans in after-market vertical racks above our steam oven. Over our Advantium, we store big casserole dishes & platters at the bottom of the cabinet, with a shelf set just above them for vertical storage of sheet pans, wire cooling racks, trays, etc. I'm 5'2" & can pull out everything without a step stool. We're also doing the low shelf trick in the cabinet over the refrigerator for roasting pans, but I do need a stool for things on the next shelf up (big stock pots). I put cutting boards in a rack & store it under my prep sink. We have two pullouts flanking our range for vertical storage of broiler pans & skillets. We also utilize a narrow pullout for storing extra oven racks. These are just a few ideas to deal with shallow items without using drawer space.

Oven storage


Prep sink pullout


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RE: sweetd313 (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: sweetd313 on 05.24.2009 at 12:35 am in Kitchens Forum

Hi JanJan..Sorry for the delay! I went to a wedding today...Ok, I'm not good with this posting pictures thing...there must be a better way to post a picture album from photobucket! Here are my shots...My kitchen isn't quite ready for GW "PrimeTime" please excuse the dust and fingerprints!! LOL!! I think you will love the Aran White, but I don't think it should cost more money! I have absolute black on the island, that's why I didn't post the entire kitchen.


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RE: We've moved in! (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: mairin on 05.11.2009 at 04:04 pm in Building a Home Forum

here's a few more pics!

front porch

laundry room

a little bit of whimsy for the daily chore!


master vanity area

walk-in shower


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We've moved in!

posted by: mairin on 05.11.2009 at 03:55 pm in Building a Home Forum

So glad to finally post those words! We've been in for a week and are starting to get settled.

some details:
broke ground mid-July (2008)
Custom home and floor plan (about 3700sqft, with unfinished basement - eventual project!)
Local custom cabinet guy did cabs throughout the house
Cumaru hardwood floors and stairs



foyer/front door

dining room - like our table and chairs?? Out of money for now!



butler's pantry

family room (before furniture!)




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after all the agony - BM Silver Fox is GORGEOUS!

posted by: katienic on 05.04.2009 at 03:46 pm in Kitchens Forum

I just had to post! The painter is finishing up the kitchen painting and after all my woes over finding the right paint I have to shout it out that this paint colour is everything I had hoped it would be. It's gray, but not. It's taupe, but not. It's purplish, but not! It's deep enough that I'm sure my granite will POP, but light enough that with the dark brown cabinets it won't look like a cave.

I can hardly wait till the cabinets come in on Wednesday.

Everything finally feels like it is coming together. :) I can now relate to the giddiness of I'm sure every single person before me who sees the end in sight!


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Finished Kitchen Pictures (except backsplash)

posted by: alliern on 11.24.2008 at 12:22 am in Kitchens Forum

Hello! I am happy to finally be able to say that our house is done and we moved from NYC to Colorado 3 weeks ago! Here are some pictures of our new kitchen...I am so enjoying it! I am still undecided about what to do for a backsplash...have to make a decision soon but I wanted to live in the house for a little while before deciding :)

DW, Fridge, microwave/convection oven (Kitchen Aid)
6 burner dual-fuel 36" range (Thermador)
Thermador Traditional Silent 42" Hood w/remote blower
Perimeter countertop Black Minas Soapstone from Dorado Soapstone
Island Countertop Honed Statuario Marble
Perimeter Cabinets custom built with BM Simply White paint
Island Custom Built Alder
Floor Owens PlankFloor 6" Walnut with Satin Water Based Polyurethane
Delta Allura Faucet and soap dispenser
Danze Pot Filler
Cabinet hardware from Restoration Hardware






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Bench and hooks instead of foyer closet?

posted by: bulldog09 on 03.13.2009 at 04:28 pm in Building a Home Forum

Hi--We are in the planning stage of an arts-and-crafts style home in Wisconsin. We have three young kids (ages 3-8) and plan to stay in the house until the youngest drives off to college in a rusty 2006 Volvo (fingers crossed for both the kid and the Volvo).

What do you think about a bench and hooks at the front door instead of a foyer closet? Linked is an inspiration photo. Our floorplan is small and there is really no other place for a coat closet. We will have a big mudroom off the garage and nice closet space in the bedrooms upstairs for our off-season coats.

Our lifestyle is very casual. When we entertain, our friends automatically stoop and take off their (usually) snowy boots at the front door. They might hand me a dish to share while I talk and greet their kids--getting heavy coats on a hanger is a hassle. So I think a bench and hooks would work well for our lifestyle.

I wonder if there is a way to do it so it could be easily converted to a closet for resale? For instance, building it into a wall alcove the dimensions of a closet?

Many thanks, Liz

Here is a link that might be useful: bench at front door


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RE: What design elements do you think gave the most pop? (Follow-Up #39)

posted by: crazyhouse6 on 03.04.2009 at 12:11 pm in Kitchens Forum

Love all the gorgeous kitchen on GW!

For our kitchen, I think it's the floors (5" wide hickory) and the large island. I tried to make the other items blend in nicely with each other, rather than compete with the floors.




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RE: What design elements do you think gave the most pop? (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: mom2reese on 03.03.2009 at 12:41 pm in Kitchens Forum

My favorite element in our kitchen is the island, but I get the most comments about our backsplash tile that we brought up to the crown moulding of the wall. It's glass tile and sparkles when the light hits it just so. It's also recycled glass and adds a bit of imperfection/warmth to the kitchen. We also get a lot of comments on the light fixture over the island.

Caveat: I still haven't finished decorating, and the kitchen normally does not look this neat/clean. I took a picture right after the cleaners were done. It lasted all of five minutes before my daughter and husband hit it, LOL.




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we are finally in!!! lots of pics!!!

posted by: hollyh3kids on 02.18.2009 at 09:12 am in Building a Home Forum

After 10 long months we moved in last week. We still don't have things on the walls or toilet paper holders installed but we are getting there! Here are some pictures:
Kitchen-excuse the table....we plan to either paint it or something. Our old kitchen was really colorful so it is from our old house.
mudroom with cubbies
toy room
boys bath
my daughters room. I painted all the dots by hand!
one of my boys' rooms
master bath

I have to say, the last 15% was the worst! I thought we would never make it! But now that we are in, we are starting to feel like its worth it! Best wishes to all of you still in progress and thanks for your help. You may remember that we asked for advice on our island placement. We moved it 4 inches and now it works great!


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RE: Kitchen Islands - Lets See Your Pics (Follow-Up #45)

posted by: gail0202 on 02.10.2009 at 03:07 am in Kitchens Forum

It's been a long time since I posted here, but here's my 4ft by 9ft island....

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Image and video hosting by TinyPic


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RE: Anyone willing to share the inside of their pantry? (Follow-Up #30)

posted by: black-thumb on 11.15.2007 at 03:44 am in Home Decorating Forum

I don't have a pantry but now that I've seen this thread it has given me the idea to use a hall closet that is basically just holding stuff I should more than likely should toss. I want to order a few cookware items from HSN but didn't have the storage space in the kitchen. Anyway here are some pics I had on my computer. Maybe they will give you some organization ideas.








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RE: Pictures of New Home (Follow-Up #7)

posted by: arohio on 01.23.2009 at 01:04 pm in Building a Home Forum

Thanks so much for all of your nice comments! It sounds like many of us have similar tastes.

To answer your questions:

- the dimensions of our island are:
11' long by 38" wide (at narrow part) and 60" wide at rounded part. We did such a big island because we wanted to eliminate the need for a breakfast area. So we eat most quick meals here and do dinner in the dining room

- we got the sconces at Restoration Hardware - they are electric.

- this is terrible, but I can't remember our front door brand... i'll look through our files & get back to you

- the paint color in the mud room is 'svelte sage' by sherwin williams.

I think that is it... thanks again for all of your nice messages!


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RE: spice drawers/inserts recommendations (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: ccoombs1 on 09.11.2008 at 02:18 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here's my spice drawers. I am going to love these things!!

Photobucket Image Hosting


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RE: How do you store a LARGE collection of spices? (Follow-Up #21)

posted by: many_hats on 02.11.2008 at 11:02 am in Kitchens Forum

I also use a drawer similar to some of the photos above but I have small metal containers with magetic bottoms. I slid a very thin piece of metal (from HD ~$11.00) under my Life Liner and the spices don't move (you can see the grey colour of it under the spices). The taller containers are from Lee Valley; they do not come with magnetic bottoms but I took some magnetic tape and cut pieces to fit the bottoms then glued them on. They all have glass lids so I can see quantities at a glance. The smaller ones have lids that twist to holes for shaking and a wide port for pouring.

The drawer is 24" wide, 21" deep; the face front is 6 1/4" high and the inside sides are 4 1/4" high. I have just under 40 spices stored so it's not a huge collection but I also have room for a 7 1/2" wide knife block and utensil storage as well so it could hold a lot more spices if I removed those.

spice drawer.


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RE: How do you store a LARGE collection of spices? (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: loves2cook4six on 02.10.2008 at 01:50 pm in Kitchens Forum

I have mine stored the same way as lascatz's:

Mine are in a 18" wide by 30" deep draw next to the cooktop and under the baking area. I store all my spices and seasoning except for salt and pepper in this draw. I used 3 oz glass bottles ordered from and labeled them with my labeler.


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RE: special beverage cooler for under counter? (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: boysrus2 on 01.21.2009 at 08:15 pm in Kitchens Forum

We bought a free standing Magic Chef from Costco for $400 that has dual temperature zones. It keeps everything nicely chilled. It has a vent at the bottom and just slides into a 24" diameter hole in our island. The unit has 5 shelves (2 glass shelves and 2 black coated metal shelves for bottles). We use the top for white wine and the bottom for soft drinks, beer, water and juice boxes. It holds a lot. It also has an interior light, more mood lighting than anything, that can be turned on or off.

Sorry the picture is not more close up of the fridge.



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Ultracraft vs. IKEA... thoughts?

posted by: remodelfla on 01.19.2009 at 05:03 pm in Kitchens Forum

Well... we went to a lumber yard/design center today and looked at the Ultracraft. Very strong contender. I have to go to IKEA with DH so he can compare construction. We went awhile ago but he really doesn't remember. I think he was just humoring me that day since we were so far away from being ready. Obviously, Ultracraft will be more $$ but that's OK since we don't need a whole lot of cabs. I definitely want frameless and wide Shaker style. What I liked about the Ultracraft from a design standpoint is: the door style I liked (called Stickley), a wide rail/stile with a reversed raised panel solid wood door as opposed to a veneer panel. The benefit to that (to my untrained mind) is heaviness/stability of the center panel and the fact that the finish stain would be the same as the rails/stiles. The line comes standard with full extension/soft close. The place throws in soft close hinges as standard. The other benefit to Ultracraft over IKEA is that Red Birch is available; which I think is a gloriously beautiful wood. The other lines I was considering from MKFUSA I found were face framed... don't want that. Here's a sample of what the door looks like Red Birch. It also comes with one stain option which I would use... it just darkens it a hair.

The IKEA door I'm considering is Adel Beech. The rails/stiles aren't as wide which bothers me some. I'm really drawn to the very wide framing. I haven't found a door manufacturer (not even Scherrs) that makes one I like as much that I could use on an IKEA cab. Benefit to IKEA, highly recommended, $$,... hardware.

OH! Ultracraft includes finished end no charge.


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Moen Aberdeen

posted by: sprengle1 on 01.16.2009 at 09:09 am in Kitchens Forum

After much searching, we may choose the Moen Aberdeen pullout in ORB. It fits our budget and style (though I'm in love with the Grohe Bridgeford and if money opens up elsewhere...) Does anyone have the Aberdeen? Are you happy with it?


People love the Aberdeen and apparently cheap on ebay.
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RE: Height between pantry shelves? (Follow-Up #7)

posted by: rhome410 on 01.16.2009 at 12:46 pm in Kitchens Forum

I started with Sharb's measurements, then adjusted according to my needs, and things like where outlets were placed, etc.

My spaces between shelves, from floor to 9 ft ceiling are: 19", 15", 14", 10", 10", 14", 21 1/2". The 19" at the bottom allows for my roll-out bins for grains and pet food. The 10" are what I needed for cans stacked 2 high. The others fit cereal boxes, gallon jugs, my grain mill, etc.



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RE: Height between pantry shelves? (Follow-Up #5)

posted by: buehl on 01.16.2009 at 12:20 pm in Kitchens Forum

This is what we did in our corner step-in pantry:

[The MW, btw, didn't fit so it is not in the pantry as originally planned.]

Also, SharB once posted her measurements but the thread has long since fallen off. I saved them and here they are:


[Sharb's] pantry measures 4 feet wide by 5 feet deep.
Starting at the top:

18" top shelf to ceiling (Things I don't need often or are lightweight.)
15" to next shelf (cereal boxes, etc.)
10" to next (canned goods, etc.)
10" to next (canned goods, etc.)
16" to next (small appliances)
20" from bottom shelf to floor (extra waters, heavy items)

The depth of the back shelf and the right side 12". The left side is 6" and holds my [SharB's] husband's hot sauces and other small items.


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RE: Towel Storage (Follow-Up #15)

posted by: morton5 on 01.15.2009 at 12:49 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here you go. The rectangular bucket holds 3 gallons and is a Rationelle trash pail from Ikea. It is not ventilated so I empty it every day or two (looks like I need to empty it now). The pullout is 12" wide. I love having a spot to store my tall spray bottles without rummaging beneath the sink. Holds my rubber gloves, in-use sos pad (in an old teacup), various cleaning brushes and polishes as well.



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RE: 36 or 30 inch sink base? (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: sue_ct on 01.14.2009 at 10:25 pm in Kitchens Forum

I love my trash pullout and my 36" sink base. My trash pullout is IN my 36" sink base:

trash pullout 2

BUT, that does not resolve the issue of the person at the sink having to move. I just couldn't give up another cabinet for trash. My kitchen just isn't big enough. The GD gets in the way so I can't have two trash cans, but it makes the bottle for my neverMT very easy to access, and I keep a box of extra trash bags next to it.



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RE: Organizing Deep Cabinets and Lazy Susans (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: buehl on 01.14.2009 at 09:36 pm in Kitchens Forum

I keep platters, griddle, cookie sheets, cooling racks, muffin tins, roasting pan & accessories, cake pans, and metal rectangular casserole pans over my 30" double ovens. You could fit most of the same amount of stuff over your MW. Notice in the pic below, I put one shelf in and put the griddle (on the right) and platters beneath it and then the tray dividers on top of the shelf. My racks, etc are placed the long way down so they stick further back rather than up so I'm able to utilize both the vertical space and depth.

This arrangement allows me to access the platters easily and fully. The racks, etc. only need to be pulled out from the bottom so you don't have to reach the top of the cabinet.

In my old kitchen, I kept all my pots & pans, cake pans, and a few accessories in my lazy wasn't a super susan, it had the center pole. I had originally planned to have a super susan in my new kitchen and I had planned to put most of my small appliances in it (waffle iron, bread machine, toaster, blender, food processor, etc.). Unfortunately, my DH took over the corner and "made" me turn it into a Pet Center (in a cabinet w/2 pullout shelves turned 90o so it faces the back of the peninusla).


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Please Help Finish Kitchen - Double Pendant Light

posted by: pdxgal on 01.14.2009 at 12:39 pm in Kitchens Forum

My kitchen has been finished for almost a year, but it's still lacking a few details, primarily a light over the island. I have a small island, approx 30" x 69" (if I recall) so the pendants have to be fairly small. I also need/want a double pendant light, but with just one attachment to the ceiling.

Restoration Hardware has one I really like, Clemson Double Pendant, but it's too big and in polished nickel (see bottom). Has anyone seen anything like this but in a smaller size and in a satin nickel?

I'm also open to other suggestions. Below is a picture of my kitchen. I like fairly simply, not frilly things. I've also looked at Rejuvenation and Schoolhouse Electric. Rejuvenation has one in satin nickel that might work, I'm just not crazy about the shades they have and have been looking for shades more dome shaped, like the Restoration Hardware ones.

Please help. Thoughts? Ideas? Thank you.

Oh, and unfortunately, now I'm committed to getting a light because I had my electrician come cut a hole in the ceiling and install one, but it was a cheap light that didn't work well and had to be returned. Here is a picture of the island. Sorry, this isn't a good photo, but it's all I have right now on my computer.


Here is a link that might be useful: Restoration Hardware Light


hood style
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RE: Coat closet doors & hardware (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: gary1227 on 01.10.2009 at 11:38 pm in Building a Home Forum

We opted to do split doors that open out as shown below on our coat closests and pantry instead of bifolds. Our front entry closet is 8ft wide with 2 sets 36" doors frames each with 2 18" doors that open out (sorry no photo, our pantry door is shown). Nice alternative to bifolds. Our builder came up with the idea.



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RE: I love my prep sink! (Follow-Up #26)

posted by: morton5 on 01.12.2009 at 12:51 pm in Kitchens Forum

Thank you, shelly_k, the cabs are Tidalholm black brown, an oak shaker-style. The grain on the center panels and on the side panels runs horizontally, so it's a bit contemporary-looking, but could also look well in an Arts and Crafts-type kitchen, I think. It is a door style exclusive to the U.S., and it is not featured in the Ikea kitchen catalog, nor in their online kitchen inspiration slideshow. My doors/drawer fronts were all made in Italy so I feel like a got an Italian kitchen at a bargain price! I thought the doors looked a bit smudgey in the store, but with a little Pledge on them I don't have any fingerprint problems.


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RE: I love my prep sink! (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: morton5 on 12.13.2008 at 09:16 pm in Kitchens Forum

Budgeteer, here is a pic of the cabinet innards:
Each pullout is a deep drawer, with a cabinet door affixed to the front. The wood divider in the center is screwed to the bottom of the cab, and a drawer glide is attached to each side. The other drawer glides are attached to the sides of the cab (so there are 2 glides per pullout, just like a regular drawer). My cabs are frameless (Ikea). You can see that my carpenter had to jigsaw out a bit of the divider to allow the plumbing to fit. He also had to clip the back corner of the right drawer to allow room for the disposal cord. Key to getting this arrangement to work was having the plumbing waste pipe placed as far back in the cabinet as possible. Also, you must have a single bowl sink. There is about 3" of dead space behind each drawer, so that is where the plumbing waste and supply pipes and Never MT are. I still had room for soft close on the left pullout, but not on the right (waste pipe interfered slightly). The 8-gallon trash cans I use are about 3" narrower than the width of the pullout, so that they can clear the disposal. Surprisingly, I don't find that they move around-- the pullout operates smoothly. It is really great having both trash and recycling right by my prep sink.

Jnjmom, the granite is Madura Gold. I absolutely love it, which kind of surprises me because I did not consider myself a granite lover when I embarked on this project. An extra bonus is it really hides dirt-- though that can be a problem, too!

Owls4me, thanks for your compliment about the floor, we had the floors patched and refinished as part of the remodel. We used Minwax golden oak stain and 3 coats of oil-based poly. They were prefinished unstained floors before, and they look so much better now that they are stained. I love the color, the grain is really enhanced, and color and grain together are very kid-friendly and easy to keep good-looking. As for sink placement, I placed the sink off-center for several reasons. Most importantly, I wanted a large span of uninterrupted work space. Another factor was that my range wall is not symmetrical, so a centered sink would have highlighted the lack of symmetry. Finally, I have two seats opposite the prep area at the left end of the island in the photo below; I did not want to reach over a sink to serve diners. The paint job should be finished this week, and then I'll post more pics.
HTH, and good luck!


Madura Gold -- granite
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I love my prep sink!

posted by: morton5 on 12.13.2008 at 10:57 am in Kitchens Forum

Forgive me for bragging, but I love my prep sink. It is close to my refrigerator, range, and ovens, and has 66 inches of counter space and two drawer stacks beside it:
What makes it really special, though, is how much my GC was able to fit into a 30" sink base for me. I have a 16x21x10 zero radius sink, a compact disposal with airswitch, a Never MT, and two 8-gallon trash pullouts. The trash cans (Ikea) come with a dividing mechanism, so when warm weather returns I can separate my non-recyclable trash into compost stuff and dump stuff. We were able to do all this with just millimeters to spare, but we did it! The trash pullout set-up is a modification I learned from Ikeafans.
The only sacrifice I had to make was that we had to flip the orientation of the zero-radius sink in order to fit the plumbing in the space between the trash cans. But I have grown to like it this way (water hits the drain better), and wish I had turned around my main sink, too. My GC is my hero!


Jeffrey Court's Fire and Ice -- black splash
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RE: Kitchen Desk Design Tips? (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: claybabe on 01.11.2009 at 05:00 pm in Kitchens Forum

Nice spot!

A few questions: Are you planning to have a computer there? Laptop or desktop? Will you be sitting there doing the work or will it be more of an organizational stopping place (it looks like you would sit out into a hall way)?

To respond to your specific questions, I'd start by saying you can put a wireless printer anywhere. Because you have a lot of activities planned for the desk area I'd put it somewhere else (along with the paper and trash and recycling for waste paper).

Also, I'd build the unit to look like a whole piece of furniture, all one piece: The top could be pretty close to the ceiling but I'd probably hook the top to the bottom. You could probably have it built to be movable too!

Other things to think about are a shredder, and trash, so you don't have to run to different locations after you sort and clean up.

One way to accomplish all of this would be to make it a solid base (fill in the knee space with cab for shredder and trash,eg) and have a pullout writing area(like a built in cutting board) if you want to be able to sit down to use it.

That said, I think the set up you have designed looks fine. It's very similar to the one I had in my last remodel. My only regret with it was that I wished I'd not left SO much space for my knees. In the next kitchen remodel I put a small desk area with no real place to sit (I use this desk differently and use the computer-a laptop- at multiple different locations): It works great for mail sorting, cookbooks, charging station, file drawer, and drawers for paper, pencils, etc.

Here's a photo of the old desk, after we moved out. We had a flat screen tv that doubled as a computer monitor.


I'm not able to get the photo to rotate, but this is the second desk, with shredder and trash in the right lower cab, and file drawer with two smaller drawers above.



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What can I squeeze into my laundry room?

posted by: worldmom on 01.11.2009 at 02:02 am in Laundry Room Forum

We're remodeling about half of our main floor, including our kitchen, and our existing mudroom/laundry room is being sacrificed to make our kitchen larger. This is the new space that we've carved out for our laundry "room." It's about 5x10 feet.

From Last Import

We purchased Electrolux FLs, and they will topped with a 30" deep soapstone counter (to match our kitchen perimeter counters). There is a leaded glass window above the dryer, so I only have room for a cabinet above the washer. We have a huge pantry in the adjacent kitchen, so I'm not too worried about not having a lot of cabinet space. Basically, I just need room for bleach, laundry soap and fabric softener.

One thing I would like to do is bring the cabinet down to the counter to disguise the water shut-off box. To access it, I'd just need to open the cabinet door and reach back to the valves. This will take up a couple of square feet of my folding space, but I don't want the box to be visible. I'm not sure what else I could do. Do any of you have any other ideas for making it less conspicuous?

Opposite our washer and dryer will be floor-to-ceiling shelves with space underneath the bottom shelf for a roll-out three-bin sorter. We have 12 children (and before you panic, I will have a second washer and dryer downstairs!) and I plan to have a basket for each bedroom. I do three loads of laundry on "normal" days (e.g., no sheets and towels), so the folded clothes will go into the baskets to be put away every evening.

Aside from the things that are planned, I would like to have a bar for hanging wet clothes - maybe something retractable? Maybe one of those retractable cable clotheslines would work? I'd also like to have a fold-down ironing board, but I'm limited by what can do on the one open wall by the pocket door; there are no studs here to attach something heavy. I *could* have our contractor build that wall out, though, or maybe put in a tall cabinet in which we could keep a regular ironing board.

I'd love to hear if any of you have any great ideas for how to utilize this small space to its fullest potential. The room will have kind of a vintage feel, but other than this light fixture, it's a blank slate.

From Last Import

Oh - one more thing I just thought of - our kitchen will have oak floors to match the existing ones in our house, but our nearby powder room will have 1" hex tiles. I've been thinking about putting the same tile in the laundry room because it would be a better choice if we had a leak. My concern is that it might look too choppy, though, since you can pass from the formal center hall (left) through the laundry room to the kitchen (right) and both those areas will be oak. Should I keep the flooring the same, or do you think it would look OK to put tile there?


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RE: Best cookware for induction? (Follow-Up #35)

posted by: srsm on 03.28.2008 at 11:35 am in Cookware Forum

I recently made the switch from gas to induction and had to replace my cookware. I did hours and hours and HOURS of research and visited, magnet in hand, many stores - from WalMart to Williams-Sonoma, Bed Bath and Beyond, Target, etc ad infinitum. I also visited two large kitchen supply houses. Here are my conclusions:

Only a fool or the status obsessed would waste money on All-Clad. You might as well burn lots of $20 bills.
The best value in stainless is Emerilware, made by All-Clad, and available many places.
Best value in enamel coated cast iron - fabulous Dutch ovens - is Martha Stewart at Macys and Lodge. These are LeCrueset quality at half the price. The Martha Stewart stainless looked quite nice but I dont know if it is induction suitable.
Best value in all-purpose/non stick is Circulon Infinite. This is truly wonderful, very high quality, stuff. It is available both open stock and in sets. Careful: Circulon makes several lines, but only the Infinite is induction compatible.The 10 pc set retails at $299 - I bought mine from Macys who was offering two extra bonus pieces - a very nice 4 qt sauce pan and a kind of Paella pan. I notices that latter was not the Infinite line, and they instantly substituted a 12" saute pan that retailed for $129. Best of all, I asked for and got a 20% discount and so got the 10 pc set plus the two bonus pieces for $240!! Also- the 10 pc set comes with three lids but they fit, perfectly, all of the pans in the set.
Tramontina makes two lines that are induction - the cheaper one is pretty flimsy, but ethe more expensive one - called "Professional", is All-Clad solid, and very reasonable. WalMart carries these open stock. Their 12 qt stockpot - $40 - is a great buy.
Dont get anything with a coper bottom - they leave a messy residue on the cooktop.

ALWAYS take a magnet to make sure the pans really are magnetic.


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RE: Show me pics of your microwave in your island (Follow-Up #19)

posted by: mindimoo on 10.10.2008 at 01:34 pm in Kitchens Forum

We have the Sharp 30" and it is worth every penny! The best part is that you lift straight up out of it, and you can stir things without having to take them out. Or, defrosting, you can move chicken pieces around without having to remove the plate or stand on your tip toes. I find it much safer removing a hot dish as well. And, it cooks better than my old one (3 years old) that had the rotating bottom.

We have our warming drawer below- perfect and out of the way.

The one thing I do think about because of an earlier post where someone said her sister or a friend called it an ovary cooker... I have mine right below my main prep/chop area, and ever since I heard that comment, I have to say, I do think about it....but, I'm done with my ovaries and I still need my brain - so go figure :-)!

Overall, it's been one of the good decisions in our kitchen! This picture is from during construction and does not show it the best though:



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RE: People with pots in drawers, how to do you store the lids? P (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: salmon_slayer on 01.04.2009 at 10:40 pm in Kitchens Forum

we got the idea from this website. Our cabinet maker put a slot all around the drawers that clips went in to install dividers where ever you want them.

From finished kitchen


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Finished Small Creamy White and Soapstone Kitchen for FKB

posted by: mary_in_nc on 07.21.2008 at 10:39 am in Kitchens Forum



Cabinets Medallion Santa Cruz inset with Divinity finish
Countertop Green Mountain Original P.A. Soapstone
Butcherblock Custome made Endgrain in cherry with walnut trim
Backsplash Subway Ceramics subway tile in glossy white. Outlet covers came from them as well.
Hardware Oil Rub Bronze
Cup pulls- Deltana Elongated Cup Pulls from
Knobs Restoration Hardware
Range Wolf 30" Duel Fuel
Refrigerator Liebherr 30" counter depth
Microwave Sharp 24" Drawer Microwave
Dishwasher Miele Optima
Disposal Insinkerator Evolutoin Compact
Vent Sirius 30in
Sink 30" Rohl Shaws Farm Sink
Prep sink Rohl Allia prep sink
Faucets Perrin and Rowe
Under Cabinet Lighting Kichler Xenon
Pendants Don't know! Came with house. Similar pendants at
Paint Walls- Sherwin Williams Rice Grain in eggshell, Trim- Sherwin Williams Alabaster in gloss
Ceiling Height 9 feet
Space Roughly 11 x 15

Here is a link that might be useful: Creamy White and Soapstone Kitchen


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Pix of Stovegirl's Finished Kitchen.

posted by: stovegirl on 11.29.2006 at 12:03 am in Kitchens Forum

Some of you were asking for additional pictures of my kitchen, and here they are.

Cabinets: Kraftmaid Barrington in Peppercorn stain
Handles and Pulls: Knob Hill
Sink: Kindred 1930 Large Undermount
Range & Backshelf: Viking 36-inch All Gas
Dishwasher: Thermador 4 Series
Microwave & Trim kit: Sharp Convection/Micro
Granite: Bianco Romano (Santa Cecilia?)
Fridge: GE Profile Artica counter-depth
Pendants: Besa Lighting
Bricks: Z-Brick in Mesa Beige

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Here is a link that might be useful: Kitchen Diary


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I'll bite the bullet and share - 1 yr later - almost finished

posted by: loves2cook4six on 11.20.2008 at 07:33 pm in Kitchens Forum


Samllish kitchen - 11' x 16'


Dh and I were squashed both working in the corner between the sink and stove. Had to climb over the island to get to the fridge. no where to sit. Dated!!!

Kitchen all cleaned out ready to come out

All the cabinets are empty

Details of new Kitchen

Cabinets custom built by Atr Cabinetry out of Nappanee Indiana (they ship country wide). They're a mix of maple and Cherry with walnut accents. A shameless plug for them - they were FANTASTIC to work for, nothing was impossible and I don't have a single filler or wasted inch in the entire kitchen!

*All new custom cabinets (slab doors) in 3 finishes (maple, cherry and walnut) with mortise-and-tenon cabinet frames and French dovetailed, hand-fitted drawers and catalyzed hand wiped finishes. All cabinet backs are 1/2" and all shelves are 3/4"
*Custom color finishes to match (eyes downcast) laminate chips whose colors I liked together
*Boxes are all maple and the inside stain is the same as all the other maple even where the doors are cherry
*Nearly all drawers in the base cabinets except for corner units, under the sinks and trash. Drawer depths were 100% customizable to fit the contents. (HD could not accommodate this)
*Panels for the fridge, freezer and two dishwashers
*Two way trash pullout accessible from both sides of the island (HD could not accommodate this)
*Pullout pantry tower with toe kick release
*Angled pantry cabinet with two doors
*Angled base cabinet and angled upper display cabinet
*Angled corner cabinet
*30" deep cabinets in the base and ALL the space is usable as custom made drawers go all the way back
*15" deep upper cabinets
*Spice drawer with "hidden drawers" above to maintain line of drawers visually
*Bread drawer with Plexiglas cover
*Glass inset doors on some of the uppers with glass shelves in those cabinets
*Wine glass rack in upper cabinet
*4 Toe kick drawers
*Custom-made can storage drawers
*Soft close Blum blumotion drawer guides on every drawer
*Soft close on all the doors
*5 Custom cherry/walnut intarsia doors
*2 Magic Corner II units
*2 tilt outs under sink
*Tray storage above ovens deep enough to hold trays in double depth
*two hidden cutting boards that pop out - one next to the fridge and one above the microwave
*Instead of a cabinet filler, I also have a small area where I store a step stool. The door from the trash cabinet was made wider to cover this storage area.
*3 cm granite Marona Cohiba - gorgeous, with floating bar and custom stainless steel corbels
*Plugmold which we installed on angled trim
*GE Monogram all refrigerator and all freezer - changing to Miele within a month
*Plumbing to move freezer water line
*De Dietrich induction cooktop from Salon Blue Ridge (fantastic to work with)
*Miele Double ovens with tray cabinet above
*Futurofuturo hood with 900 cfm,
*Relocated every appliance except fridge. Put separate freezer in butlers pantry
*Relocated cleanup sink and installed prep sink,
*Ran water supply and drain for a prep sink,
*Built out a butlers pantry into the garage space

*2 Miele dishwashers (one was our old one which we repanelled and the new one is the Optima
*Sharp Microwave drawer,
*Kludi(prep) and eBay faucet (Cleanup)
*Blanco Sigranite sinks
*Water chiller and instant hot dispenser and tank
*Dual hot/cold water faucet

*4 built in soap dispensers Delta Brizo
*2 air switches
*Dual tapmaster works prep sink from both sides of island
*Tapmaster for clean up sink
*Recessed lighting as well as pucks in the upper cabinets,
Undercabinet lighting,
*Custom glass island light pendants,
*21 knobs and 60 pulls in stainless steel
*1 Soho Manhandle a total splurge!!
*Moved and replaced the kitchen window
*Moved the sliding patio door and rebuilt the concrete step on the patio

Finished kitchen

Finished Kitchen

Custom can storage (the two upper drawers are hidden behind the lower one so it lines up with all the other drawers)

Can storage

Pot hanger

Hanging Pot Storage

My absolute fav cabinet - the pullout pantry next to the ovens. It holds the Tupperware containers perfectly and when I pull it out I have EVERYTHING I need for baking right at my fingertips

Pull out pantry open

Cab above the ovens. It's 30" deep and holds SOOOO much

Vertical storage above ovens

Pot drawers

Pot drawer

New Dishwasher

Miele Optima Closed

Corner unit closed and open

Hafele Magic Corner II unit closed

Hafele Magic Corner II unit open

two way trash pullout


toe kick drawers


Cleanup area and fridge

Fridge and clean up sink

We love our kitchen. It ended up costing 50% over our original budget and that figure will be going up with the purchase of the Miele Fridge and freezer units.

One surprise cost came about because the KD had the wrong measurements and we had to move the sliding door to accomodate the cabinets so MEASURE and then CHECK the blueprints!


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Infinite thanks! We are finished!

posted by: jaymielo on 11.17.2008 at 05:27 pm in Kitchens Forum

I want to send out a huge thank you to all the people who lent me advice, opinions and their experience in the last 2 years. I'm an eternally grateful! Pulling those last few things together proved to be very painful, but we are finally almost there. I'm sure some of you observant TKOs will notice the few remaining items to be done, but this is as good as it gets. Here is an overall shot of the space.


Details... The cabinets are Amish made of quartersawn white oak with miniwax Red Oak stain. The floors are quartersawn red oak with no stain. The counters are Green Mountain Original soapstone.

This is our nook. The table, which we had custom made, comfortably seats our family of four for casual dinners. We have two more chairs and 2 leaves which we can add for a little bigger dinner. The secretary in the hutch folds down and provides a writing surface plus a place to stash mail and odds and ends.


The kitchen itself sits behind the nook. The formal dining room is through the door at the end of the kitchen. I wanted to wine fridge and "real" fridge as well as the pantry on the edges of the kitchen so they could be accessed by guests or the kids without getting in the way for the cooks.


We have additional seating for four at the island, which is handy when we are cooking for company or for breakfast or snacks for the boys.


The faucet is the Kohler Simplice and the sink is the ever popular single bowl Ticor. I'm very happy with them both. You can also see our giant cutting block in this picture. For a while we toyed around with the idea of making part of the island butcher block, but I'm happy with the compromise we struck. The fridge an Amana French door.


The range is a Blue Star 36", which is dream to cook on. The hood is by Futuro and the backsplash was custom made by Artistic Abode based on some line drawings I provided.


The Micro is an Advantium 120. It is a convection so it serves as our second oven and we are really enjoying the combination of that with the Blue Star range. Our reach in pantry has custom made cafe doors which match our cabinets and a pendant light which matches the pendants over our island and in the nook.


And here is the pantry itself. It is small but mighty!


Thank you again to everyone who patiently contributed to my threads. Building this kitchen was a pleasure. I wonder if I'll ever get to do it again...


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Finished Kitchen

posted by: steph1602 on 11.01.2008 at 08:15 pm in Kitchens Forum

I've been lurking a lot on this forum during the last few months and have gotten so much great information.
I'd like to share some pictures of our finished kitchen.
Cabinets are Custom Cupboards, cherry with pecan stain. Granite is Verde Maritaka.
Gaggenau induction cooktop, Jenn-Air walloven, microwave and refrigerator.
During our remodel, two windows were moved and the wall to the dining room was taken out. We love our new open space!


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RE: Pantry storage ideas (Follow-Up #7)

posted by: teresa_nc7 on 08.13.2008 at 10:44 pm in Smaller Homes Forum

Lizzie, I am pleased that you find my design helpful and it is fine to print out the pic.

My pantry is 46" across and 34.5" deep, just so you will know what size I'm working with.

Other points:

~ the new shelves are 8.5" wide, but that is because that is the largest size I could make down the right side from the door facing; with an L-shaped shelf arrangement, you probably want to put the shelves down the side with the most room from the door facing - my left side has only 4" of space from the corner to the door facing; I wish I had made the back shelves just a tad bit wider - maybe 10" but no wider than that

~ the lowest shelf is 25" from the floor so I can stack a couple of large stock pots on the floor beneath the shelf; there is also a wood crate on the floor that holds cookie sheets, baking pans, deep dish pizza pan, pizza screens, etc.

~ the hooks on the left side are staggered down the left wall and are placed no higher than I can reach (I'm 5'5" tall) and hold 2 sieves, a breadbasket, the stir fry pan, and a roasting pan; a large hook beside the left door facing (inside the pantry) holds 3-4 full-length aprons

~ I use baskets and colanders to hold onions, potatoes, and sweet potatoes as I don't buy a lot of these at one time and they must go in the pantry where it is dark

~ there is a plastic basket to hold dried beans and rice and another smaller basket to hold ranch mix, enchilada sauce mix, taco mix, etc.

~ wherever possible I use decorative tin cans with lids to hold pasta, cocoa, and tea; I also use large glass jars to hold oatmeal, barley, dried potato flakes (for bread) etc.

~the top shelves are the original 16" deep shelves and hold the Fry Daddy, the largest crock pot, 3(?) thermoses, box of canning jars, etc. - the cooking items that are used less frequently. [note: I worked for 10 years in a gourmet cooking store so I have lots and lots of stuff!]

Hope this helps!


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