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I love my prep sink!

posted by: morton5 on 12.13.2008 at 10:57 am in Kitchens Forum

Forgive me for bragging, but I love my prep sink. It is close to my refrigerator, range, and ovens, and has 66 inches of counter space and two drawer stacks beside it:
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What makes it really special, though, is how much my GC was able to fit into a 30" sink base for me. I have a 16x21x10 zero radius sink, a compact disposal with airswitch, a Never MT, and two 8-gallon trash pullouts. The trash cans (Ikea) come with a dividing mechanism, so when warm weather returns I can separate my non-recyclable trash into compost stuff and dump stuff. We were able to do all this with just millimeters to spare, but we did it! The trash pullout set-up is a modification I learned from Ikeafans.
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The only sacrifice I had to make was that we had to flip the orientation of the zero-radius sink in order to fit the plumbing in the space between the trash cans. But I have grown to like it this way (water hits the drain better), and wish I had turned around my main sink, too. My GC is my hero!
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RE: Please show me your cabinet styles! (Follow-Up #7)

posted by: beekeeperswife on 06.12.2012 at 04:11 pm in Kitchens Forum

I was almost ready to go with plain Shaker cabinets. But I too wanted it a little bit more dressy. And I found these...Similar to Jodi's but with an outside groove too.

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RE: Show me your subway tile! (Follow-Up #22)

posted by: emy315 on 03.21.2012 at 03:33 pm in Kitchens Forum

We did porcelain tiles that looked like carrera marble.

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RE: Show me your subway tile! (Follow-Up #11)

posted by: fivefootzero on 03.21.2012 at 08:25 am in Kitchens Forum

OK, we did carrera marble subways from Home Depot. Insanely inexpensive.

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Reveal: Long & Narrower White, Grey & Green EIK

posted by: gooster on 07.01.2013 at 12:31 am in Kitchens Forum

Well, we are about 98% done (need a resized DW panel) and before July starts I felt I'd post a reveal (a bit pic heavy). Thank you to everyone who answered my questions and provided useful insight via other posts and discussions. My main regret is that I didn't join the discussion earlier.

The kitchen is a 12' 3" wide by 26' 8" long space formed by combining an existing formal dining room with an existing kitchen. The existing dining room is being relocated to a combined formal living/dining space. The family room, foyer and hall bath were also touched during the remodel. The home is a 1930s modified Colonial Revival with Art Deco touches throughout, in an in-city neighborhood in Northern California. That mix informed our targeted style inspiration, which was Traditional with a touch of Hollywood Regency.

This kitchen replaced an existing white (thermafoil) kitchen, which replaced a white kitchen. The kitchen may have been mint green or yellow in its lifetime as well, but has been mostly white in its lifetime. The layout was restricted by our desire to keep the corner windows and side windows, to preserve the exterior architecture and stay faithful to the original designs in the neighborhood.

This was all done via services of a GC and KD, with us taking almost a solitary lead in design choices (blame us). Originally, another wall was due to come down to better connect to the Family Room (which is 90% done).

The budget was moderate and I am willing to post details, but I know that this can be somewhat sensitive and almost controversial subject.

Here are the details:

Cabinetry: Crystal Cabinet Works, Belmont door, beaded inset in Keyline and full custom. Cotton White on PGM and Cinnamon on Cherry. Features include pullouts, wood drawers, soft close, plywood sides, and integrated end panels. Made in Minnesota.
Cabinet Hardware: Schaub, Empire
Counters: Caesarstone Pietra Gray, 2cm, mitered edge
Farmhouse Sink: Porcher
Island Sink: Kohler Iron Tones
Faucets: Danze Opulence
Backslash: Carrara 3x6"
Window Shelf, Table Top: Bianco Carrara
Pendants: Maxim Metro
UCL: InspiredLED, customized Designer Series bars and tape lining glass cabinets
Recessed: Halo, subsidized by utility company
Range: CornuFe Albertine in stainless
Hood: Modern-Aire PS24, body in RAL 9037
DW: Bosch 500, paneled
WD: Viking Pro
Fridge: Viking Pro, CD FD with trim kit
MW: GE Spacemaker
Disposals: Insinkerator Evolution
Windows (added last year): Pella Architect, double hung and casements with roll-up screens
Table Base: Custom
Banquette (with lift up storage), Counter Stools: Ballard Designs
Wall Color: Benjamin Moore, "Spa"
Ceiling Color: Benjamin Moore, "Chantilly Lace"
Floor: White oak, quarter sawn random blank with beveled edges. Custom matched and stained to blend with the original flooring

Here are a few "before" shots:

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Original cooking area, with no nearby counterspace:
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Original dining room -- this is the wall that came down:
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Here is the final -- sorry for the photo quality, it was twilight:
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The corner sink is not ideal, but works with the original architecture. The second island sink is key:
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Corner banquette at the other end. We went with moveable furniture pieces to give the flexibility to move to a table in the future:
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Cherry island in the center. Perhaps could have kept the one end cabinet as all drawers, per the GW consensus. Went for symmetry:
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Towel bar in narrow pullout is handy. Trash pullout is next. Either side of the range are tray storage and a spice pullout:
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Backsplash closeup -- went with low profile outlets under the cabinets or low and horizontal against the counter:
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Banquette:
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View down the side of the island -- still need some artwork and new accessories (pillows, kitchen gear). Under the island lip are recessed outlets, including two USB ports for electronics/iPhone charging:
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Microwave storage in a pop up cabinet -- sized to handle multiple different brands:
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Here are the requisite piggy shots -- sitting on a "pig pen" of Carrara:
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And Jake the Corgi holds reign -- and the valance feet are one of our favorite finishing details:
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And some bonus pics (Sorry for the lengthy posts) -- the Family Room from years ago, prior to renovations:
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Preview of the fireplace for you Arabesque fans... I was going to use this in the kitchen but it was going to be too busy:
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This post was edited by gooster on Mon, Jul 1, 13 at 22:12

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RE: Cabinet Hardware (Follow-Up #5)

posted by: buehl on 05.09.2008 at 10:10 am in Kitchens Forum

I agree with Ccoombs, "builder grade" is usually cheap quality. Try some of these sites that others have used for some of the better knobs & pulls, their prices are usually pretty good...

www.myknobs.com
www.thehardwarehut.com
www.pullsdirect.com
www.leevalley.com/hardware/index.aspx?c=2 (hardware index)
directdoorhardware.com

eBay in general once you know what brand/design you want...e.g., Sonoma Hardware (eBay store)

For some unique or unusual knobs & pulls (not necessarily inexpensive!):

www.anneathome.com
www.sokostudio.com


HTH!

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RE: Honed Absolute Black Granite - Enhancer + Method Polish? (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: cmm6797 on 09.07.2011 at 06:34 pm in Kitchens Forum

Rupes, although I like the look of our new honed absolute black countertops, I'm not finding them as easy to clean as some of the other posters.

I did start using the Method cleaner immediately, and applied it about 5 or 6 times. Haven't seen a difference in ease of cleaning. Maybe it takes more time to build up the patina as azstone suggests.

Specifically this is what happens on our counters: grease splatters from stove or even some butter or olive oil gets on the counter. Wipe it up and it still looks very streaky where the spills were. Eventually they seem to disappear, but by eventually I mean in about 10-14 days.

In one of the earlier posts someone suggested cleaning the counter with hot water and a very small amount of dish soap. That seems to work for some spills. Another thing that works well are the microfiber cloths - stock up on those. But honestly, even if I wipe down the counter then go over it with the Method cleaner, the entire counter does not look clean - ever. There are always areas that are streaky or spotty and I assume it's because those areas take some time to absorb the grease or liquid or whatever was on there. Frankly I am confused as to how to maintain them.

I'm interested in seeing the other comments as well. Our installer did seal the granite although I've since read that the sealer can cause problems on honed absolute black, so perhaps that is the issue with ours.

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RE: Honed Absolute Black Granite - Enhancer + Method Polish? (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: oldhouse1 on 09.07.2011 at 12:10 pm in Kitchens Forum

We have had our honed AB for a month and I absolutely love it. I read all the horror stories as well but decided to take the chance because I love the look. We have had absolutely no problems. As I understand an enhancer will darken the stone slightly so that fingerprints are not quite as noticeable. We chose to not have it sealed or enhanced, although they left us some enhancer if we decided we wanted to use it later on. When AB is honed it is a med to dark grey and the enhancer darkens it slightly. We tested a sample from the actual slab with oil, wine, vinegar etc. and nothing stained. Sometimes finger prints are left behind and if something wet is left on the counter it will sometimes leave a mark but it wipes off with a damp dish towel and if not MDGP always gets it out. I'm the type to wipe off the counter after every use so I have not found it to be a problem. I keep wondering if I'll run into problems but so far so good. I'm thrilled with my choice.

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RE: Water marks on my honed absolute black granite countertop (Follow-Up #29)

posted by: sue_granitehelp on 09.05.2010 at 11:26 am in Kitchens Forum

I know this has been asked and answered But I still need some help. After an extensive search for a slate counter top I settled for honed black granite. The owner of the quarry guaranteed me he would seal it before delivery and it would not leave any discolorations. That did not happen, the installers just wiped it down with a sealer and when epoxy was used for the sink glue residue & finger prints set in as well as every splash of water after the faucet was connected.
I called the dealer?quarry the next day and he said he would take care of it. 1 week later everything was leaving stains even if I wiped it immediately, splatter from the stove just spread with each wipe. I called again and told him he needed to send someone over to remove the stains and reseal it properly. His response was well it's stone it's going to do that?????? but he would sell me a sealing kit!!!!I responded what good is that if it's stained. he said use bleach, didn't work either. Help! this guy lied to me and now I'm stuck with a top that is getting worse by the day, is there something wrong with this stone? What can I use to remove the glue stains & food splatter, water marked do come up if I repeated scrub them but that's all day every day???????

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RE: What do you store in your kitchen drawers? (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: shelayne on 03.08.2012 at 08:48 am in Kitchens Forum

Just about everything! Having drawers has given my kitchen much-needed organization. I am amazed at how much can fit into drawers, and it is still organized!

Here are just a few shots of drawers that have made my kitchen life so much easier--

Baking dish/pyrex storage (30" wide):
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"Plastics"(30" Wide):
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"Costco"/Snack drawer--one of three banquette drawers (36" wide and 15" High):
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I love love LOVE my drawers! :)

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99% Finished Kitchen--creamy white w/soapstone

posted by: jbrodie on 03.01.2009 at 06:59 pm in Kitchens Forum

Finally! Our kitchen is finished! I never thought the day would come, and boy am I enjoying it. I owe so much to this forum. I can't tell you how much you all helped me. Thank you!!! I hope I can help others in return.

Hope I'm not putting too many pictures!

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soap stone

Quick description (feel free to contact me if you have questions)
-Soapstone: Julia
-Cabinets: Custom, inset/flush shaker style with single bead (waiting to see if we get some issues resolved before I recommend the cabinet maker)
-Bookcase and desk tops: walnut
-Sharp microwave oven drawer (love it!)
-GE fridge
-Shaw 30 inch apron sink
-Wolf range top
-Thermador double ovens
-Vent-a-hood hood
-Dal tile
-potfiller: Newport Brass
-hot/cold faucet Newport Brass
-Main faucet: Mico
-Door to garage: one panel painted with chalkboard paint...fun! The kids love this and it's fun to put messages to guests, each other, holiday wishes, etc.
-Pull out baskets (love these...I keep bread in one and potatoes, onions, etc. in the other)
-Wine shelf--love it!
-Bar stools from Sturbridge Yankee Workshop (love these and they were so reasonable!)
-What would I do differently? More than 12 inch overhang on seating area of island (maybe 14-16 inch). And I might skip the bead board in the backs of the bookshelfs and glass cabs.

Happy kitchen designing to all! Thank you again!

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Finished Soapstone Kitchen

posted by: mamalynn on 01.29.2010 at 12:04 am in Kitchens Forum

I have been reading the kitchen forum posts for months. I have no design skills and rarely had anything to offer. But I have learned a lot by reading the posts and looking at the pictures of all the wonderful kitchens! This is truly a great site because there are so many talented people who freely give of their time to offer advice, inspiration, and support. I thank all of you!

Not everything is put away yet, I still need those decorative touches, the banquette cushions are out being re-worked (they were too high), etc., but I love, love, love cooking in this kitchen! And I cook all the time - almost every lunch and supper and occasionally breakfast.

We bought our house new in 1981. In 1989 I closed in the deck to create a room for me. The kitchen window over the sink that looked out onto the deck became a leaded glass window looking into my room. At that time I had the upper cabinet doors removed and those cabinets painted and I changed the wallpaper and the vinyl floor as the old floor had not held up well. Nothing has been done to the kitchen since then except for the occasional new appliance as an old one died.

None of this was DIY - neither of us has any talent in that direction.

Since I built in the banquette, I was able to move the peninsula out by about a foot which allowed me to make the island a little longer. Originally the peninsula had what I assume was meant to be a breakfast bar, but it was much too narrow to be used. I had that cut down to make one large area and the overhang now extends out a bit more.

The only extra space I was able to add to the kitchen is at the coffee bar. The space for the frig already extended into the utility room and the space that had the oven and the pantry extended into the garage. I extended the rest of that wall into the garage by the same amount, roughly 6.5 ft x 2.5 ft. That gave me room for a slightly large pantry and for the coffee bar.

Here are the specifics -

Counters and sink - Iguazu soapstone from Dorado Soapstone of Austin, TX.
Cabinets - locally made, beaded inset doors
Floor and backsplash - Daltile Canaletto Rosso with Dakota Mahogany inserts.
Faucet and soap dispensers - Allora by Delta
Hardware - Atlas Homewares Scroll in black, some the right scroll, most are the left scroll
Dishwasher - Whirlpool that I got a year ago to replace my worn out one. It�s quiet, works great, and I saw no need to change it.
Refrigerator - Samsung 26 Cu Ft.
Vent - ModernAire
Range - Electrolux 30 inch slide-in electric with two ovens (Getting gas to our house would have been prohibitively expensive.)
Lazy Susan - Hafele LeMans Champagne blind corner pullout
Mixer Stand - Rev-a-Shelf
Trash Pullout - Hafele
Lighting: Recessed - Cree LR6 LED�s. Over the sink - The Piedmont in antique black from Schoolhouse Electric. Over the table - Hinkley Juliette 3 Light Mini Chandelier in Olde Black. Undercounter lights - Xenon, I don�t know what brand
Paint - All Behr colors. Some of them we did tweak a bit.
Green cabinets - We started with Mint Fizz, but there was not enough contrast, so we darkened it.
Cream cabinets, banquette, and all baseboards, trim, doors - China Cup.
Sink end of the room - Coronado Dunes
Banquette end of the room - Peach Bud
Ceiling - Muffin Mix.

The ceramic tile always looks a bit orange in the pictures when it is actually a terracotta color.

Below is a link to these and more pictures if anyone is interested.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gutdoctor/sets/72157623107621940/

Before:

001 - Before

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After:

003 - After

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Microwave, Pantry, Coffee Bar

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Banquette

011 - Banquette

016 - Mixer Stand

018 - Baskets

020 - Range Hood

025 - Hafele blind corner pullout

027 - Hafele Trash Pullout

028 - Sink

For any potential soapstoners - since the sink doesn't get any treatments and has water and soap in it frequently, it does "gray," which I don't mind at all for the sink

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And just in case someone wants to see this island again, although I do have other areas of counter that are just as beautiful, I couldn't resist showing it again -

030 - Just in case you wanted to see the island again

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RE: A potentially new soapstone question (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: catbuilder on 06.12.2013 at 10:43 pm in Kitchens Forum

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Finished Kitchen Pictures!

posted by: ayerg73 on 05.28.2012 at 05:14 pm in Kitchens Forum

After over a year of planning and lots of great advice from this forum, it's time for the big reveal! The kitchen is finally finished!!

Ok - here are all the details...
Cabinets - custom builder. Shaker style. Full overlay. Painted cabinets - Colored Lacquer used is same color as SW Impressive Ivory.
Wood cabinets - natural cherry.
Hardware - Amerock Highland Ridge in Dark Oil Rubbed Bronze. 128mm and a few 3" pulls on small drawers.
Countertops - Anasazi Soapstone from The Stone Studio in Batesville, IN
Backsplash Tile - Debris Tile from Fireclay Tile. 2x6 subways in Kelp Green with swirl accents.
Fireplace Tile - Modern Mythology Phoenix Mixed Stone Mosaic
Paint - Walls are SW Krypton. Trim is SW Impressive Ivory at 50% intensity
Floor - Historic Blend Hickory floor from Tennessee Wood Flooring with hand distressing and square nail holes. 3, 4 & 5" planks, mixed.
Range - Bertazzoni Dual Fuel 48" range in black
Hood - Vent a Hood
Dishwasher - Bosch 800 Plus
Microwave - Sharp 24" Drawer
Sink - Blanco Silgranit Super single in Anthracite
Faucet - Grohe Concetto in Chrome
Soap Dispenser - Elkay Deluxe in Chrome
UCL - Neutral White LED strips from Environmental Lights
Pendants - Kichler Sayre 12" in ORB
Chandelier - Murry Feiss Sullivan Collection in ORB

The old kitchen was not in a terrible state, it was just not functional for us. The double ovens wouldn't close and we'd been reduced to duct taping them closed. The cooktop didn't cook anything evenly and the tile was coming up. There was also a ton of wasted space, which just irritated me when I couldn't find a place to store anything.

I knew I wanted a traditional range because I have short arms and always worried about burning myself when getting things out of the wall ovens, so I knew that a layout change was in order. We also had a very dark space with almost no natural light. We opened up the room to the dining room and put in light colored cabinets with lots of great lighting. The room definitely doesn't feel dark anymore. YAY!

Here's what we were working with before:
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And here's what we have now...

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Love the dog food storage. It makes feeding time a whole lot easier.
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And my spice/knife drawer - thanks to Breezy for the idea!
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It seems like just about every decision in our space has been touched in some way by you guys. Thanks for helping us create our dream kitchen!

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Justmakeit just made it -- finished kitchen photos

posted by: justmakeit on 06.08.2013 at 01:40 pm in Kitchens Forum

I know it's customary to thank the GW forum for all the help in doing research and getting feedback, but I can't imagine anyone spending more TKO time poring over posts old and new than I did. Anyone who's spent time here will recognize the debt my kitchen owes to mpagmom, breezygirl, a2gemini. But many others have helped in many ways, large and small, seen and unseen. The generosity of the folks in this community is amazing, and helpful even for those of us who don't post often.

I'm an empty nester (at least for now), DH and I are vegetarians, and DH is a celiac. I cook dinner every night DH is in town, from scratch. We decided to renovate not because the kitchen was so bad, but just because we thought it could be a lot better. Wow, were we right! I wanted something uncluttered, bright and airy, using the same footprint as the original kitchen. I toyed with the idea of opening up the kitchen to the dining room, but took to heart Rosie's comment that it's sometimes nice to have a different room to be in. My house didn't seem to want to be opened up that way, and I like having my little kitchen dominion be separate. We did, though, add three big windows across the back of the kitchen, bumping them out about 14 inches, and running the counter out to them. This is definitely the best part of the kitchen for me -- light, air, more counter space, the illusion of a bigger kitchen. Not much of a downside there.

Here are a few details:

Cabinets: Ovation On-U Frameless
Cabinet pulls: Tob Knobs Princetonian
Counters: honed Ocean Stone quartzite
Floors: Duro Design glue-down cork
Stove: 36" Bluestar
Refrigerator: 36" Liebherr
Warming drawer: Dacor integrated
Dishwasher: Bosch (only thing we kept from the old kitchen)
Microwave: Countertop Panasonic
Sink: Custom stainless steel, two bowls, 9" and 21"
Faucet: Waterstone 5300
Backsplash: Sunflower Ming Green and Thassos, also 12 x 12 Thassos in toaster nook
Hood: 36" Vent-a-Hood
Windows: Marvin
Wall paint: Benjamin Moore Moonshine
Ceiling cans: 6" Ecosmart LEDs from Home Depot
Under cabinet lights: LED puck lights
Pendant over kitchen table: TBA, ask me 6 months from now if I've picked one by then (decision fatigue has definitely set in)

First, the old kitchen (my daughters were sad to say goodbye to the chile pepper border):

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And now the new kitchen:

Stove wall

Window wall

The all-important toaster niche for DH:
Fridge wall

Breakfast nook

Peninsula

Window run 1

Window outside

The window's deep enough that this wand really helps with opening it. (Thanks for expert window wand modeling by DD.)
Window wand

The other result of such a big window bump out was that we needed battery operated shades -- !
Window shades

We took an empty space in the back hall, just outside the kitchen, to put in a dumping ground/charging station/recycling bin/phone area. Soooo helpful! Gets the junk out of the kitchen.
Back hall junk counter

We also transformed the back coat closet into a handy pantry.
Pantry

Breakfast table

The GC made this little between-the-studs niche for me, which I asked for on a whim. It's incredibly useful, though, for stashing little odds and ends like the garage door remote.
Niche closed

Niche opened

We needed a plug on the sink run where there was no backsplash. GW to the rescue -- I found this one in an old thread. KD likes it better than any other he's tried.
Pop up plug, open

Unseemly faucet love.
Running water

Cork floor.
Cork floor and old slippers

Spice drawer.
Spice drawer

Double decker dish drawer -- two drawers behind one drawer front. DH was alarmed at the extra step required to get to the silverware, but he's adjusting nicely now.
Double decker dish drawer

Double decker plastics drawer

Elf, straws and preserved lemons

Edited to add yet another photo.

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Not-nearly-done-but-since-you-asked pics

posted by: breezygirl on 01.13.2012 at 08:27 pm in Kitchens Forum

Thanks to everyone who keeps asking me for new photos of the kitchen! We still have miles to go, as you can see.

Not done:
light fixtures
tile
knobs on uppers
pantry door handle
drywall repair around outlets
paint
stools
kitchen table, banquette, chairs
DR chandy
DR chairs

Excuse any dirt or mess you see in the backgrounds!

Details

Perimeter: Carrara marble, honed 4cm
Island: Black Walnut
Custom Cabinets: Cornerstone Cabinetry, painted BM Simply White
Hardware: Restoration Hardware Aubrey pulls, 4', 6' and 8'
Rangetop: 36' 6 burner Capital Culinarian
Hood: Rangecraft, Viser model
Fridge: KA built-in
MW: Sharp 24' drawer
Sinks: Blanco silgranit in metallic gray
Faucets: Hansgrohe high-arc

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From the Dining Room.
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Closeup of beverage serving area. (Wow, that's a lot of booze. We're really not alcoholics!) We entertain a lot so I plan to set up beverages, which end up to mostly non-alocholic, here. I rotated this in photobucket, but it shows here the other direction.

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I bought these pendants on sale and plan to do a DIY mercury glass technique on them to see if I can cut the glare but not make them look cheap. If they don't work, then I'm not out much and will continue the hunt.

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I'll put a link to my photobucket album with more pics. My flickr account was full so the album will only have pics since we moved back in.

Oh, and I said I'd post some pics of the new cats, too. That's next!

Here is a link that might be useful: more pics

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