The photo below shows the Johnson Tee (the piping on the right side of the photo) that was installed in my kitchen during a major remodel. The copper pipe attached to the top of the white PVC fitting runs down to a spot near the floor where it protrudes through the wall with the DW drain line attached to it. The actual anti-siphon device is in the "knuckle" at the top of the PVC pipe.

The anti-siphon device is vented through the exterior wall and terminates in a small round vent cover on the outside of the wall. It's about 2" in diameter and can be painted if desired to match the wall siding. Freezing isn't a problem as there isn't any standing water in the device. It looks like this:

Hope this helps.

2. Easy Deviled Eggs: Put cooked egg yolks in a zip lock bag. Seal, mash till they are all broken up. Add remainder of ingredients, reseal, keep mashing it up mixing thoroughly, cut the tip of the baggy, squeeze mixture into egg. Just throw bag away when done easy clean up.

3. Expanding Frosting: When you buy a container of cake frosting from the store , whip it with your mixer for a few minutes. You can double it in size. You get to frost more cake/cupcakes with the same amount. You also eat less sugar and calories per serving.

4. Reheating refrigerated bread : To warm biscuits , pancakes, or muffins that were refrigerated, place them in a microwave with a cup of water. The increased moisture will keep the food moist and help it reheat faster.

5. Newspaper weeds away: Start putting in your plants, work the nutrients in your soil. Wet newspapers put layers around the plants overlapping as you go cover with mulch and forget about weeds. Weeds will get through some gardening plastic they will not get through wet newspapers .

6. Broken Glass clean up: Use a wet cotton ball or Q-tip to pick up the small shards of glass you can't see easily.

7. No More Mosquitoes: Place a dryer sheet in your pocket. It will keep the mosquitoes away.

8. Squirrel Away!: To keep squirrels from eating your plants sprinkle your plants with cayenne pepper. The cayenne pepper doesn't hurt the plant and the squirrels won't come near it.

9. Flexible vacuum nozzle: To get something out of a heat register or under the fridge add an empty paper towel roll or empty gift wrap roll to your vacuum. It can be bent or flattened to get in narrow openings.

10. Reducing Static Cling: Pin a small safety pin to the seam of your slip and you will not have a clingy skirt or dress. Same thing works with slacks that cling when wearing panty hose. Place pin in seam of slacks and -- ta da! -- static is gone.

11. Measuring Cups clean up : Before you pour sticky substances into a measuring cup, fill with hot water. Dump out the hot water, but don't dry cup. Next, add your ingredient, such as peanut butter, and watch how easily it comes right out.

12. Hate foggy windshields?: Buy a chalkboard eraser and keep it in the glove box of your car. When the windows fog, rub with the eraser! Works better than a cloth!

13. Reopening envelope: If you seal an envelope and then realize you forgot to include something inside, just place your sealed envelope in the freezer for an hour or two. Viola! It unseals easily .

14.Hair Conditioner: Use your hair conditioner to shave your legs. It's a lot cheaper than shaving cream and leaves your legs really smooth. It's also a great way to use up the conditioner you bought but didn't like when you tried it in your hair..

15. Goodbye Fruit Flies: To get rid of pesky fruit flies, take a small glass fill it 1/2" with Apple Cider Vinegar and 2 drops of dish washing liquid, mix well. You will find those flies drawn to the cup and gone forever!

16. Get Rid of Ants: Put small piles of cornmeal where you see ants. They eat it , take it "home", can't digest it so it kills them. It may take a week or so, especially if it rains, but it works & you don't have the worry about pets or small children being harmed!

17. INFO ABOUT CLOTHES DRYERS : The heating unit went out on my dryer! The gentleman that fixes things around the house for us told us that he wanted to show us something and he went over to the dryer and pulled out the lint filter. It was clean.
(I always clean the lint from the filter after every load clothes.) He told us that he wanted to show us something; he took the filter over to the sink, ran hot water over it. The lint filter is made of a mesh material - I'm sure you know what your dryer's lint filter looks like. WELL...the hot water just sat on top of the mesh! It didn't go through it at all! He told us that dryer sheets cause a film over that mesh that's what burns out the heating unit. You can't SEE the film , but it's there. It's what is in the dryer sheets to make your clothes soft and static free - that n ice fragrance too, you know how they can feel waxy when you take them out of the box, well this stuff builds up on your clothes and on your lint screen. This is also what causes dryer units to catch fire & potentially burn your house down with it! He said the best way to keep your dryer working for a very long time (& to keep your electric bill lower) is to take that filter out & wash it with hot soapy water & an old toothbrush (or other brush) at least every six months. He said that makes the life of the dryer at least twice as long!
How about that!?! Learn something new everyday! I certainly didn't know dryer sheets would do that. So , I thought I'd share! Note: I went to my dryer & tested my screen by running water on it. The water ran through a little bit but mostly collected all the water in the mesh screen. I washed it with warm soapy water & a nylon brush & I had it done in 30 seconds. Then when I rinsed it the water ran right thru the screen! There wasn't any puddling at all! That repairman knew what he was talking about!

Just for the record, I have a friend who gets 6 to 24 cankers in her mouth at a time, always. Doctors have told her they will slow down after
15 years but I sent this to her anyway. She had already heard about it and is trying it. Her cankers are clearing but she doesn't know for sure if it is the 15 year mark, the peroxide or a combination. However, she is not willing to stop the peroxide treatment just in case. PE.

This is what Oxi clean is...3% peroxide
(did you know that????)

This was written by Becky Ransey of Indiana

"I would like to tell you of the benefits of that plain little old bottle of 3% peroxide you can get for under $1.00 at any drug store. My husband has been in the medical field for over 36 years, and most doctors don't tell you about peroxide, or they would lose thousands of dollars."

1. Take one capful (the little white cap that comes with the bottle) and hold in your mouth for 10 minutes daily, then spit it out. (I do it when I bathe.)

No more canker sores and your teeth will be whiter without expensive pastes. Use it instead of mouthwash. (Small print says mouth wash and gargle right on the bottle.)

2. Let your toothbrushes soak in a cup of "Peroxide" to keep them free of germs.

3. Clean your counters, table tops with peroxide to kill germs and leave a fresh smel l. Simply put a little on your dishrag when you wipe, or spray it on the counters.

4. After rinsing off your wooden cutting board, pour peroxide on it to kill salmonella and other bacteria.

5. I had fungus on my feet for years - until I sprayed a 50/50 mixture of peroxide and water on them (especially the toes) every night and let dry

6. Soak any infections or cuts in 3% peroxide for five to ten minutes several times a day. My husband has seen gangrene that would not heal with any medicine, but was healed by soaking in peroxide.

7. Fill a spray bottle with a 50/50 mixture of peroxide and water and keep it in every bathroom to disinfect without harming your septic system like bleach or most other disinfectants will.

8. Tilt your head back and spray into nostrils with your 50/50 mixture whenever you have a cold, or plugged sinuses. It will bubble and help to kill the bacteria. Hold for a few minutes then blow your nose into a tissue.

9. If you have a terrible toothache and cannot get to a dentist right away, put a capful of 3% peroxide into your mouth and hold it for ten minutes several times a day. The pain will lessen greatly.

10. And of course, if you like a natural look to your hair, spray the
50/50 solution on your wet hair after a shower and comb it through. You will not have the peroxide burnt blonde hair like the hair dye packages, but more natural highlights if your hair is a light brown, reddish, or dirty blonde. It also lightens gradually so it's not a drastic change. Do be careful with this mixture it will lighten your hair but to much of it will act as a bleach.

11. Put half a bottle of peroxide in your bath to help rid boils, fungus, or other skin infections.

12. You can also add a cup of peroxide instead of bleach to a load of whites in your laundry to whiten them. If there is blood on clothing, pour directly on the soiled spot. Let it sit for a minute, then rub it and rinse with cold water. Repeat if necessary.

13. I use peroxide to clean my mirrors with, and there is no smearing which is why I love it so much for this.

I could go on and on. It is a little brown bottle no home should be without! With prices of most necessities rising, I'm glad there's a way to save tons of money in such a simple, healthy manner.

Send on to others who might need to know the benefits of 3% peroxide

What is the Kitchen Forum?
The Kitchen Forum is a message board within Garden Web that focuses on all things kitchens. http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/kitchbath It has evolved toward a focus on updating/ redecorating/ renovating/ building kitchens, where people seek and give information, opinion and advice. There are some professionals, but mostly the Forum is populated by consumers with great interest and experience in kitchens. People post questions or reports about their kitchen projects and others respond; each of these conversations is a "thread".

How do I join the Kitchen Forum?
You must be a member to post messages. It is a simple registration process, no fee. During registration, you have opportunity to describe yourself on your own linkable page, and you choose whether to have all responses to your posts sent to your email, and whether to be accessible to other members through email.

How is the site organized?
The Kitchen Forum home page lists 30 thread titles, starting with those that don’t yet have a response. Then threads are listed in order of most recent response. That first page displays the last 2 hours or so of activity. Below that are page numbers 1-67 for the total 67 pages of threads available – capturing maybe 2 months or so of threads, less when the Forum is busy. Below that is a space for you to switch to the Conversations or Gallery sectors - these are set up similarly. ‘Conversations’ is for chatting on non-kitchen topics; ‘Gallery’ is for pictures. Next down is a Search button – very important! Next is a place for you to start a new thread. And finally are some instructions and links at the bottom.

How do I read and respond to a thread?
Click on a thread title to pull up the original post (OP) and the responses. To join in and add a response, type into the box at the bottom of the page right below your name. (You must be logged in to see this box and to post.) To see your post and proofread it, click on ‘preview’. If you need to make a correction, scroll down to the box for making corrections and edit. When the preview looks good to go, click on "submit". You should see a notice that your response has been posted.

Where did my response go?
If you did click on "submit", your response should join the thread, and pop that thread up to the top of current threads, with yours as the most recent follow-up. Try refreshing the page. Sometimes a thread will be in two places momentarily, both where you found it and at the lead. Sometimes posts take a moment to appear. Sometimes things disappear.

Should I search or start a new thread?
It is good to search first and be sure your thread’s content or question isn’t already on another thread. You may find your answer already available on existing threads or here in the FAQ.

How do I search?
Near the bottom of the Kitchen Forum home page is a search box (don’t use the one at the top of the home page). Type in some key words and hit ‘search’. If you get too many threads, try adding another word or two to narrow down the search. If you get too few, drop a word. Also search here on the FAQ. Some say the Forum search engine is marginal and recommend you do a generic Internet search using Garden web, Kitchen Forum and your key words. The latter may even pull up threads that were magically archived elsewhere.

How do I start a new thread?
At the bottom of the home page is a box below your name for starting a new thread: "Post a message to the Forum". (You need to be logged in to see your name and to post). Just type in your issue or question, and let people know how they might help you out. Then write your thread title. It helps to be very clear with the title. "Granite question" could mean most anything, whereas "Granite seam question" is more specific, and "How noticeable should a granite seam be?" is even more specific, and "Are these granite seams unacceptable? (picture)" is even clearer. And you want to be clear because there are more threads than can be read by the average Forum user.

I lost my thread. Where is it?
Your thread is still there, but may have scrolled down off page one to page 2 or 3 or beyond. The first page only shows activity in the last couple hours. One way to locate your thread is to do a ‘search’ on your name, and that will pull up any threads you have started or posted on. You can get your thread back to page one by posting on it yourself, commonly called "bumping". Perfectly fine if you still need responses, and better than starting a second new thread (leads to confusion and a crowded Forum)

Hey, how come I didn’t get lots of answers like some other threads?
Hard to say. Some threads that are touching or funny or controversial will "get legs" because they strike a chord. Sometimes a project will generate a lot of give and take and brainstorming. Some questions get ignored because they’ve been answered over and over (but your search should have told you that). Some get ignored because they may be too specific and no one has the answer. Maybe you just posted at a busy time and it slipped off the first pages too quickly. Sometimes things happen for no reason. Try posting to your own thread and asking again for more input.

Why can’t I find a thread from a while ago?
The storage capacity of the Forum only goes back about two months. Sometimes less. If the thread you are looking for "fell off" the 67th page, it’s gone.

How can I save threads I might need later?
You can keep any post as a "clipping" and stash it in your Forum file. Just click on "clip this post" under the ‘Clippings’ logo at the top right of each post. If you want to save a whole thread, you may need to resort to saving the thread as a document on your computer (EDIT: ‘select all’, then FILE: ‘save as…’

How do I embed pictures in my post?
Your picture needs first to live somewhere on the Internet. Then you enter its address code in your message and the picture appears in your thread. Photobucket is one easy and widely used photo-storing site. You can open a free account at Photobucket.com. Then move pictures there from your digital camera or computer. Each then will have its own Internet address. To post, you:
· First make your picture smaller by clicking on ‘edit’, then ‘resize’, select ‘web size’ for a regular size and to ‘message board’ for larger to show more detail.
· Copy the HTML tag below the picture (looks like >ahref =…)
· Paste that tag into your message.
· Check the preview to be sure the picture is there and sized correctly (try refreshing if the resizing isn’t showing.)

How do I link to a Web site or to my pictures?
Garden Web makes it easy. At the bottom of your post is a URL box where you can copy/paste any website address and a second box for you to name that link. When you preview your message you will see the title added to the bottom of your message after "Here’s a link that might be helpful". You can use this to refer the reader to a website or to your own photo album to see more pictures.

Why did the picture in my post disappear after a few days?
The address to your picture will only work if you make no changes to it. When you reorganize photos, or retitle your albums, you are changing the photo’s address and your posted link no longer works.

What is the Finished Kitchens Blog and where is it?
Starpooh has heroically archived all the finished kitchens on a separate area of the Web. (Just as she set up this FAQ site. Thank you Starpooh!) All the kitchens are coded and you can search for pictures just of "Bluestar" ranges or "St. Cecilia" granite installations. This amazing resource is at http://finishedkitchens.blogspot.com/ Enjoy!

How can I be a better citizen here on the Forum?
Don’t shout when you speak (by using all capital letters). Use the search feature. Don’t start many threads at once. Thank people for their help. Help others when you can. Come back and give updates. Ignore hostilities – scroll on by. Remember that folks pretty much do the best they can with what they know at the time.

I have more questions, what do I do now?
Some of our members are in the process of compiling a broader FAQ site you can browse. It's located at http://starpoohonline.com/wordpress/ (linked below).

Welcome, we're glad you're here!

Here is a link that might be useful: Offsite FAQ

Fabrication/Pre-Install
-  Post pictures for the TKO’ed of your slabs!
-  Be present for the template process.
-  Be there when they place the templates on your slabs, but if you can't be there then have a lengthy conversation about seam placement, ways to match the movement, and ways to color-match the counters that will be joined at the seam;
-  Double check the template. Make sure that the measurements are reasonable. Measure the opening for the range.
-  Be sure you test your faucet for clearances not just between each fixture, but also between the faucet and the wall behind the faucet (if there is one). You need to be sure the handle will function properly.
-  Make sure that the cabinets are totally level (not out by more than 1/8") before the counter installers come in. Saves big headaches.
-  Make sure they have the sink/faucet templates to work from.
-  Check how close they should come to a stove

Installation
-  if you have wood floors--especially if you're in the process of staining or finishing them--make sure that they don't spill or drip granite sealer on the wood floors. Apparently the sealer interferes with the stain or finish process. Possibly considered brown kraft paper to protect your floors.
-  Make sure that your appliances are protected during the installation process.
-  Make sure you have a pretty good idea of your faucet layout--where you want the holes drilled for all the fixtures and do a test mock up to make sure you have accounted for sufficient clearances between each fixture.
-  Somewhere you will have a seam by you sink because they cannot carry the small pieces after cutting out for you sink without breaking. Ask them to show you where it will be and if you are ok with it. Should be covered in the appropriately colored caulk.
-  Check the seams for evenness and smoothness.
-  Make sure that the seams are neat and clean.
-  Make sure that the seams are not obvious.
-  Make sure that there are no scratches, pits or cracks
-  Make sure that the granite has been sealed
-  Ask which sealer has been used on the granite.
-  Make sure that the sink reveal is consistent all the away around
-  Check the gap of the granite at the wall junctions.
-  Keep an eye for inconsistent overhangs from the counter edges
-  Make sure that all your edges are identical
-  Make sure that the laminate edge (if you have it) is smooth.
-  Check for chips. These can be filled.
-  Make sure the seams are butted tight.
-  If a cut-out or a seam is worked on OVER a drawer, be sure to remove the drawer and tape the glide. There have been instances where the granite dust destroyed the drawer glide.

-  Make sure that the top drawers open and close
-  Make sure the stove sits up higher than the counter
-  Make sure that you can open your dishwasher
-  Make sure that you have clearance to all of your appliances.
-  Make sure that you have the appropriate clearances for your appliances.
-  Make sure all you cabinets are still in the right place.

-  Watch when they apply the sealer, so that you know how to do it later.

Post Installation
-  Post pictures for the TKO’ed
-  Enjoy your kitchen!

If the installer adjusted the drawer fronts right, there should be a 3/16" revel at the top (the drawers drop down that much for clearance) and this is plenty for all the drawer slides that I have ever used.

Beefing up the cabs, well, be sure there is a ledger strip ( 1 x 4 screwed to the wall) behind the Dishwasher. Watch out around the front of sinks, 36" is a heck of a span for a narrow sink rail. Ask if they will use Sink Setters to support the undermount. Costs around $40.00 per set and is the only way to go on frameless cabinets.

Past that, unless you have an unusually big countertop and some very clumsy installers, you should be okay.
Good luck with the project.

Marlen's CoffeeCake

1 box white cake mix
1 box instant vanilla pudding
8 oz sour cream
1/2 cup vegetable oil
4 eggs
Mix all ingredients together at once. Beat AT LEAST 5 minutes- DON'T UNDERBEAT!

Topping:
1 cup granulated sugar
1 cup chopped walnuts
1 1/2 heaping teaspoon ground cinnamon
1 1/2 heaping teaspoon cocoa
Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Butter and flour a 10" bundt pan. Put half of the batter in pan and sprinkle with half the topping. Add the rest of the batter. Sprinkle the rest of the topping. Cut through well with knife so that topping is mixed with the batter. Bake 1 hour.

Cool 10 minutes before turning out.

Marlens note: I like a lot of the topping so sometimes I add extra. You can also add a bit of topping on the bundt pan after it is buttered and floured, before adding the batter. (Connie's note, I didn't do this)

Now after typing this I am thinking its been a little while since I made this and need to make again soon! LOL

In all cabinets, the opening is smaller than the door. What's your opening?

I was worried I'd have pipes the obstructed the areas for my trash can, or too-narrow a cabinet, so I had planned to have the cabinet installer install a drawer-box on the floor of the sink cabinet, and then I was going to set a trash can inside it.

If I couldn't find a trash can the right size, i was going to have the guys at the heating-duct place make me one out of galvanized sheet metal. I called them about it, they said, "hey, that's an interesting idea; we could, I suppose; shouldn't be hard; it'd be probably a single sheet of stock; probably $50, but I'm guessing; maybe more, but probably not much more; would we need to come there?; no? well, then probably only $50."

But I did find one from Rev-a-Shelf that fits into my sink cabinet.

this is mine, but it needs an 11-5/8" opening, which I have (27" cabinet, minus 1.5" for side walls, divided by 2,minus .5" for hinge=12-1/4")

here's a skinnier one: Dimensions: 10-3/4" Wide x 22" Depth x 19-1/4" Height.< href=http://www.ovisonline.com/store/detail.asp?product_id=5349-15DM-117>another one w/ that width but a different mounting style, sort of

another 10-3/4" one, but w/ yet another mounting style.

And an even skinnier one: Dimensions: 9-1/2" Width x 22" Depth x 19-1/2" Height

Bathroom-sized ones might work. Like < href=http://www.ovisonline.com/store/detail.asp?product_id=569-10>this short one

Chocolate Almond Macaroon Bars
2 cups chocolate wafer crumbs
6 tablespoons butter OR margarine, melted
6 tablespoons powdered sugar
1 (14-ounce) can sweetened condensed milk
3 3/4 cups MOUNDS Sweetened Coconut Flakes
1 cup almond slices, toasted* (optional)
1 cup HERSHEY'S Semi-Sweet Chocolate Chips
1/4 cup whipping cream
1/2 cup HERSHEY'S Premier White Chips
1. Heat oven to 350 degrees F. Grease 13 x 9 x 2-inch baking pan.
2. Combine chocolate wafer crumbs, melted butter and sugar in large bowl. Firmly press crumb mixture on bottom of prepared pan.
3. Stir together sweetened condensed milk, coconut and almonds in large bowl, mixing well. Carefully drop mixture by spoonfuls over crust; spread evenly.
4. Bake 20 to 25 minutes or until coconut edges just begin to brown. Cool.
5. Place chocolate chips and whipping cream in medium microwave-safe bowl. Microwave at HIGH (100%) 1 minute; stir. If necessary, microwave at HIGH an additional 10 seconds at a time, stirring after each heating, until chips are melted and mixture is smooth when stirred. Cool until slightly thickened; spread over cooled bars.
6. Sprinkle top with white chips. Cover; refrigerate several hours or until thoroughly chilled. Cut into bars. Refrigerate leftovers.
Makes about 36 bars.
*To toast almonds: Heat oven to 350 degrees F. Spread almonds evenly on shallow baking sheet. Bake 5 to 8 minutes or until lightly browned.

I have not taken cod liver oil at all in my adult life despite my sincere desire to get back into taking it. I cannot believe how many times I've been to the store and forget to purchase a bottle, including today (slapping myself). My testimony is from my childhood and having to take that nasty stuff LOL every day of my life but attributing to it the fact that I have not had a cold in my adult years, and I've never experienced the flu at all. Each time I thought I had a cold or flu, it turned out to be a kidney infection. As a child, I had a couple colds that didn't last more than a couple days, and I remember having one in my young teens - around 13 or 14 - but never one since then. I am more than sure this is due to the effect cod liver oil had on my immune system to be able to resist and fight off such common maladies.

I've read articles extolling its virtues for overall health but not necessarily weight reduction or anything related to it. However, I would not condemn such claims either. They've just never been my concern (not that I don't need to lose weight and body fat) or reason for exalting the benefits of cod liver oil.

As a result of the affect DHA & EPA (mainly DHA) have on mental stability, cod liver oil is claimed to be advantageous for Alzheimer's and other memory and mental diseases such as depression, as well as improved memory. I cannot attest to that either but must point out its limitations where that is concerned. I have a sister who is bipolar (paranoid schizophrenic). She took cod liver oil every day just as I and my other sisters. This tells me DHA helps to improve and/or prevent deterioration of specific sectors of the brain that control memory and mental stability but does not affect specific, predisposed markers.

What concerns you most at present is the affect of DHA/EPA (mainly EPA) on the cardio-vascular system. While its ability to lower cholesterol might be debatable, most studies have shown it is effective in not only lowering cholesterol levels but also triglyceride levels, which also contribute to cardio-vascular problems (beginning with atherosclerosis) and coronary artery disease like angina. I only mention this because a contrast I've always heard and read about is that of heart attacks among cultures that eat a lot of oily fish, such as eskimos and the Japanese, compared to those of the western world like us because of our diet and lack of fish oil. However!!! According to this article, you definitely want to consult your doctor if your angina is a chronic condition. You also want to consult your doctor if you are taking any medications.

If I may add, I would not substitute cod liver oil for flaxseed oil because while they both provide the beneficial Omega acids, Omega 3 fatty acid alone as found in cod liver oil provides the addition of DHA and EPA, which flaxseed does not, or rather you need 10 times the amount of flaxseed oil. Also, I can't imagine finding/learning of a semi-miracle remedy\preventative only to look for its alternative. Something as tried and studied as cod liver oil has no alternative - notwithstanding what puc13 indicates to be allergy or intolerance.

Just so you know, cod liver oil provides more vitamin D than can be obtained from other fish oils. Morever, you wouldn't have to worry about mercury or other heavy metals in cod liver oil. You have to be careful with some other types of fish oils to be sure there aren't any.

Petaloid, taking supplements of both flaxseed oil and fish oil is not necessary. There is such a thing as toxicity and over-interaction. In addition to all the chemistry of which one is producing/affecting what and the other that I could never explain (please research it), they all (ALA, DHA, EPA) work to thin the blood. So, what do you think double or triple (along with those derived from the foods you eat) doses are doing? Increasing your risk of having a stroke. Just hoping to alarm you because too much of a good thing is always possible.

He was very busy over the summer, but may have more time now as it's getting close to the holidays. His office is near Costco, maybe on Encinal, or Fern (can't remember) - hard to find, not marked, etc., so be sure to ask him specifics about the building he's in if you meet with him.

Good luck!

The stuff can be cut, and that's a good thing, since I have many sections that are under 3ft. The sizes were 3ft (6 outlets--$33.95), 5ft (10 outlets--$42.95), and 7ft (12 outlets--around $50, I think). $4.95 for the end caps that you need on only one end of the plugmold, as I understand it.

I wound up getting 3, 3ft sections and 1, 5ft section. That plus the end caps came to about $180. I have no idea if that's a good price or not, but I'm sure it's the labor that's going to kill me.

My GC didn't know anything about using it, but he's open to new ideas (gotta love that from a GC!!) and told me to call the electrical store--if they had heard of it, he would get it done. The store said yes, people do it all the time and they asked me who my electrician was--when I said the guy's name, they made me feel SO MUCH BETTER by saying that he does that all the time, he's great, been around forever, and he's in there at least three times a week! Phew!! Paying someone hourly, I want to make sure they aren't getting their learning curve when I'm paying!!!

I'm having two regular outlets on one separate wall, where people might hook into computers and where I know I'm having my "baking area." I'm going to leave the mixer plugged in over there, so I knew I wanted a regular outlet.

Otherwise, in the whole "U-shaped" part of my kitchen, there won't be any interruption of the backsplash. I plan on having it mounted as close to the back of the cabinet as possible (with still being able to plug stuff in easily) facing down. I think that's the least obtrusive for us and I'd rather have cords hanging straight down.

Good luck--I never would have known about this had it not been for this website--and now my GC is thrilled because it means less sheetrock cutouts for the backsplash area!!

Sarah

You must also verify that you have the die cuts on the slide to accept Blumotion. Many tandems were made without these die cuts so you cannot retrofit blumotion without changing the entire mechanism. There are 2 or three die cuts under the slide to accept the main housing, and there is one "eye" shaped die cut on the side of the slide near the front to accept the trigger. Finally you need to verify the width of the notch on the bottom of the drawer. The typical notch for Tandems is 1 5/16" wide, but you must have a 3 3/4" notch on the bottom of the drawer to allow for the Blumotion housing to slide past the drawer.

HTH,

-Alan

The black plastic legs. They may feel a bit light and brittle, but are in fact, designed to support a lot of weight. They are guaranteed for 125 kg (that's 275 lbs!) PER LEG. I did manage to break a few when installing my cabs. The 88" tall oven cabinet is very heavy and hard to position into place. I made the mistake of tipping the cabinet onto one of the legs and it snapped right off. The legs are not meant to handle the shear stress of a non-vertical load. Once the cabinet was in place and anchored to the wall, it was very solid.

The plastic feet are also very easy to adjust in height which makes leveling the cabs a cinch. Just make sure you trim off any little plastic 'nubs' that might be on the threads. I tried to screw a few of them past these nubs and ended up with cracked feet.