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Acetamiprid for PC

posted by: ltilton on 05.02.2014 at 08:39 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

On another thread, several knowledgable posters said they didn't consider acetamiprid effective for curculio control. I just got the current issue of the IL Extension newsletter, which lists Assail as one of the recommended insecticides to control PC. I believe the reference was primarily directed at apple growers.

I'm wondering if this might be because pyrethroids aren't permitted on apples after petal fall, so a less effective spray is recommended.

My first concern is for my stone fruits, and with as few trees as I have, I prefer not to be mixing up more sprayer-loads than necessary.


Good other discussion permithrin
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Calculating mixing rate of ammonium sulfate for blueberries

posted by: fruitnut on 07.05.2013 at 08:27 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

Mrclint was kind enough to post the link below concerning blueberry fertilization with ammonium sulfate, AS, 21-0-0.

If I'm reading correctly it says that at rates higher than 1.0 g/liter AS becomes a salt problem when growing blueberries. So I'm cutting that in half to provide a safety margin. That equals rounded off ~2 grams per gallon. AS weights 4.6 g per teaspoon. The rate I've quoted before was about one teaspoon per 2.5 gallon jug. That still seems about right and about 0.5 g/liter.

More accurate calculations says 2.5 gal equals 9.45 liter. So 1.0 teaspoon AS (4.6g) diluted in 2.5 gal equals 0.49 g/liter.

I know that's not real easy to follow but that's my calculation.

So I think 1 teaspoon AS per 2.5 gal water is a safe rate on blueberries in pots if there is a decent leaching fraction. It's been working for me and this literature says it's safe if properly used.

Here is a link that might be useful: Ammonium sulfate on blueberries


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Record Keeping Journal

posted by: mes111 on 09.24.2013 at 02:12 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum


Can anyone share a design or style of a journal . With so many variables and sub-layers I am just drawing a blank as to how to design the record keeping.



record keeping database
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dry pesticide rates for hand held sprayers

posted by: michael357 on 01.23.2014 at 02:56 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

the link is from the U of KY and has a good deal of useful info. for folks using small amounts of spray materials but can't seem to figure out how to convert the label rates to rates usable in say, tsp/gal..

Hope this helps somebody.

Here is a link that might be useful: U of KY link


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best deal on pomegranate plants?

posted by: fabaceae_native on 12.29.2013 at 09:40 am in Fruit & Orchards Forum

I've done some research already, but am just wondering if I can skip some of it by asking what everyone thinks is the best deal on pomegranate plants on the internet.

Locally I can only get the variety 'Wonderful' but am looking for an early-ripening variety such as 'Angel Red', 'Granada', 'Sweet', 'Eversweet', or 'White'. I'd like to find the best size for the money, since I'm planning on buying a number of plants...

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks...


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Apple scab Problem

posted by: Stamper057 on 01.05.2014 at 11:05 am in Fruit & Orchards Forum

I purchased a small orchard last winter without any orchard experince(This is just a hobby orchard) We had a problem with apple scab last year and would like to know the best way to take care of this problem.


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brown rot

posted by: yopper on 12.29.2013 at 04:06 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

What is the best spray for brown rot on cherries?TIA YOPPER


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Apple Tree Pollination and Rootstocks

posted by: Enterprise on 12.06.2013 at 12:09 am in Fruit & Orchards Forum

Hi all,
I am looking to add a few apple trees to my backyard garden. I am located in zone 5b/6a in western MA. I am thinking of planting three trees: Liberty, William�s Pride, and Enterprise on M26 rootstocks. I like the idea of getting some disease resistance although I understand that spraying still will be required, especially prior to bagging. My question is: will these trees provide sufficient cross pollination? From what I read their blooms are somewhat spread out but in theory overlap enough. Anyone know if that�s true? I was considering planting Freedom as well, but from what I�ve read on this forum, the quality isn�t as good as Liberty/WP and it doesn�t match Enterprise�s resistance. Also, any recommendations for rootstocks? A local orchard owner recommended M26, but it sounds like some of the Geneva rootstocks have value. Thanks in advance.


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peach tree curl

posted by: woody64 on 11.18.2013 at 03:08 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

I read somewhere that Iam supposed to spay my peach tree this time of the year to kill off the tree curl from this year. Can someone suggest what Iam supposed to spray with please? I read somewhere about copper spray or some thing like that but if you had to buy at the local store what would you ask for?


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Best Fungicide

posted by: MrsG47 on 11.05.2013 at 02:47 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

Hi all, it is garden clean up time and I am finding 'yellow rust' on my raspberries. It started very slowly in Oct. What is the best fungicide to use against it? Thanks, Mrs. G


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Borers Likelihood?

posted by: ramble on 10.16.2013 at 06:05 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

What is the likelihood that plums/cherries would get the borer? I'm in NJ.

And what available chemical to prevent them if necessary?


borer paint trunk
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Summer Budding

posted by: Itheweatherman on 08.18.2013 at 01:52 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

Is it possible to bud apricots in summer? Is it hard?

Would you guys give me some tips, please.

I will bud a flavor delight aprium (patent expired) onto a Marianna 2346 rootstock.


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Great video on BRIX & pests

posted by: yukkuri_kame on 09.08.2013 at 01:47 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

Found it very informative.

Do any of y'all use a refractometer?

Here is a link that might be useful:


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RE: Calculating mixing rate of ammonium sulfate for blueberries (Follow-Up #22)

posted by: mrclint on 07.09.2013 at 02:16 am in Fruit & Orchards Forum

Ammonium sulfate is not organic. Here's a video that shows a couple of small batches of ammonium sulfate in liquid form being mixed up. I'm not sure why he's cooking the powder at the end. Looks like a highlight from a "Breaking Bad" episode doesn't it? Non-organic growers take the crystalline form of either mix method, dilute with water and fertilize plants (including food plants) with it. Subway uses ammonium sulfate in their bread dough.

This post was edited by mrclint on Tue, Jul 9, 13 at 3:18


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ammonium nitrate for blueberries

posted by: Noogy on 06.29.2013 at 09:14 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

I realize some components in fertilizers, such as muriates, contribute to the formation of salts in the soil that kills bb's. I've also read things about nitrates, but am not sure or positive about their use w/blues. I don't need the sulfur component, so is ammonium nitrate safe for blues?


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Permethrin update

posted by: franktank232 on 07.03.2013 at 02:23 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

I just thought I'd update and say i had EXCELLENT results with plain Permethrin this in I have yet to find ONE plum with a PC hit...they were thick...THICK on my apples (which i didn't spray early enough and when i did, i spot treated a few apples which stayed clean)... I was spraying every Sat nite on the plums ..i think i had 4 or 5 sprays total (its been several weeks now)...if i used a sticker i bet i could extend that. We had a ton of rain during May and June (15 inches)... Last year i had no plums ..none...because PC hit them so hard. This year i've had to thin there are so many out there hanging. I also have no PC hits on my container trees which all were spot treated (i only sprayed the fruit)..which include donut peaches, pluots, white peaches and a few other things...

Now if i can keep the rot away, i'll be good.


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picked peaches early, washed but still go brown rot?

posted by: garedneck on 07.07.2013 at 10:30 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

Well, i guess the honeymoon is over as the first several years it was easy to grow all types of fruits without much disease or pest pressure. This year brown rot has gotten into everything despite regular immunox sprays and a few monterey fungus fighter sprays and copper sprays in the winter.

So with one of the peach trees i removed about 30 peaches about 1 week before they would normally tree ripen while they looked good, washed them off, dried them and set them in the house. A few days later they get brown rot starting from the outside of the peach working its way towards the pit before the peach was fully ripe! It only takes 24 hrs to go from good looking peach to totally rotted peach!

What could or should i have done to prevent it?

I know to try to keep orchard clean and neat , regular sprays, etc. Should i just get used to this every so many years when the weather is particularly wet or hot?

Of course i did get a couple peaches this year that were fabulous making it worth the effort!




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When to stop pinching new growth on Blueberry Plants

posted by: blueboy1977 on 09.02.2012 at 06:25 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

Ive been trying to slow down my plants all summer by pinching off the tops of new growth about every 8 inches or so. There have been some plants that I havent keep up with to this point though and would like to cut back some length on the branches because they are getting floppy. Last year I cut them back in Sept and they had enough time to harden off by winter time. So in zone 9(South Houston) what would be the latest that you would pinch new growth. Im thinking late Sept/early Oct. Any thoughts???


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posted by: Randy31513 on 03.23.2012 at 01:58 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

Ortho� Flower, Fruit & Vegetable uses Acetamiprid. It is rated for apple peaches and plums and other stuff.

Any thought how this compares with Triazicide?


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Spray recommendation for blooming stone fruit trees

posted by: andrew321 on 04.04.2013 at 02:03 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

My plum and apricot trees are in bloom. Peaches and European plums will soon follow. The rain has been on and off so I am kind of confused regarding what to spray and how often. I used copper sulfate and dormant oil about two weeks ago on all my stone fruits. I also used Daconil on the blooming apricots about four days ago. The plums were in the early stages of bloom and got sprayed with Daconil and Captan.

I wonder if I should also use copper sulfate and how often I should spray if there is rain while the trees are blooming. I always add a spreader sticker in the mix. Thank you.


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Giving up on Triazicide

posted by: ltilton on 05.22.2013 at 03:27 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

OK. I sprayed at petal fall, I sprayed at shuck split, 10 days later. Not 5 days leter, I find curculio scars on every apricot I see. On every plum.

To hell with that.

I've got Sevin, I've got Permethrin. Not sure how to get my hands on anything else stronger. Which way to go?


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Captan & Pears

posted by: backyardking on 04.22.2010 at 07:21 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

I have an old (new to me) orchard of apples, pears & cherry. A friend of mine told me to spray captan on them twice a week until June. That's what he does. The label doesn't mention pears--or I was hoping to be apple to shoot tomatoes in mid summer. Does anyone know if Captan should be ok? I think I have a bartlet type & an asian type pears. It seems from reasearch that it shouldn't be a big deal. Yes?
Thanks in advance



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10-10-10 fertilizer and blueberries?

posted by: languard on 05.14.2013 at 11:37 am in Fruit & Orchards Forum

My wife is really worried about damaging our blueberries, so I thought I'd ask here for thoughts. I plan on using a 10-10-10 fertilizer on my blueberries, does anyone have any good/bad experiences with this? What about other fertilizers?


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Hmmm peach tree leaves starting to bubble and look like this...

posted by: armyofda12mnkeys on 05.13.2013 at 12:51 am in Fruit & Orchards Forum

Hey all,
My peach tree is getting these weird bubbles forming on the leaves...
Can see the leaves that have it on pic below... Can see it beginning to form on part of the left leaf too.
Is this nitrogen deficiency or a disease?


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Good spray program for apples

posted by: johnthecook on 02.29.2012 at 08:48 am in Fruit & Orchards Forum

hello. I have tried to figure out a good spray program for my apples. I have looked for past posts but never seem to get the full spray program for the year.I have dormant oil,triazicide, and immunox. Could someone just list in what order how they use these sprays during the spray season.I live on Cape Cod and have 17 apple trees two to three years old. I also have tried bagging my apples but can't see doing this when my trees really start producing.


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Inducing a branch

posted by: glenn_russell on 04.06.2010 at 02:37 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

Hi All-
I suspect that this will be an easy case where you just point me to a nice link...

I dormant-topped all 5 apple whips that I planted last year to 42' in preparation for my open vase trees. With such a warm spring, I'm already seeing some leaf buds push which I suspect will become new shoots/laterals for my vase. But, my question is... if I don't get enough new shoots to form a vase (I'm hoping for 4 on each tree), how do I go about inducing one? I seem to remember a procedure where you score the bark down to the cambium just below a leaf bud, or something like that? If so, what would be the right time of year for me to do this? (Something showing me how long/deep the cut would be would be nice too.)

I guess I also want to ask how close together should I aim to get these new laterals? Ideally, they'd all be at the same level, but that's probably not possible/practical/and perhaps not best for the tree? Maybe it's just aesthetics anyway?

Thanks in advance,

P.S. Attended my first grafting class last night. Grafted a Goldrush on P2 (like M9) rootstock. Time will tell if my clumsy hands were good enough!


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Tis the season of fruit

posted by: blueboy1977 on 04.22.2013 at 03:03 pm in Fruit & Orchards Forum

It's that time of the season here in Houston and all kinds of fruit is coming across the table. We have been picking blueberries now for at least 3 weeks and wild dewberries, strawberries and loquats have been coming on strong. After the first week of my blues coming in I started to have Mocking Birds tearing them up. They really piss me off cause they don't even eat the berries. They just knock holes in them, tear off green berries and make a big ole mess under the plants. I still have some Rabbiteyes pushing flowers and I like to wait to put up my bird netting untill they are done but the last 2 seasons I've had to put it up a tad bit early. They are mostly done flowering but still a few trying to push. Attached are a few pics from the last two days at our house. Hope you enjoy them, I know I did;)

Took the boys picking dewberries yesterday after work. Then made dewberry cobbler for desert!
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My wife went to a friends house this morning and picked some loquats. I'm going to plant a few seeds in the front yard and get a couple plants going. Anything special I need to do for the seeds or just throw them in the ground?
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My boys picked these this morning.
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A few picks of the improvised frame and bird netting.
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4 year old Emerald sagging from weight of blueberries.
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My early varieties (Springhigh and Snowchaser) are just about done. Here are a few more varieties that are starting to ripen.

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This is suppost to be Windsor. It's from FHN and seems to the wrong variety. I have a Windsor JF&E and the leaf and berries look completely different plus they haven't started to ripen at all. Does this look like your unknown Fruitnut???
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Scintilla just starting to ripen
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That's all I got for now. As more varieties come in to season I will make another post.


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