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Cabinets are in~Progress photos

posted by: katieob on 08.29.2009 at 03:26 pm in Kitchens Forum

Hi all.

The cabinets went in this week and I love them! Some moulding & trim need to be finished, but here's how it's looking:

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Next up: Paint, vent hood, backsplash, stools, finish floors...

Thanks for looking!
Katie

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clipped on: 08.30.2009 at 11:10 pm    last updated on: 08.30.2009 at 11:11 pm

How to Seal Your Stone (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: buehl on 07.13.2009 at 08:26 pm in Kitchens Forum

  • Posted by stonegirl (My Page) on Thu, Jun 4, 09 at 11:43

    Whatever sealer you use, read and follow the instructions carefully and be sure to buff off all excess sealer. For maximum effectiveness, each application of sealer needs to fully cure before the next application - normally about 24 hours.

    Here is a how-to for sealing:

    You will need the following:

    1. Home improvement strength alcohol
    2. Lint-free rags or unprinted paper towels (the "Rags in a Box" disposable paper rags found at home improvement stores are really great for this)
    3. Paint pad (those hard, fluffy coated pads they use to apply paint)
    4. Sealer

    What to do:

    1. Clean your counter tops by wiping them down to remove any food residue.
    2. Wipe the counters with a rag soaked in alcohol. (Be sure to follow the safety instructions on the container)
    3. Once the counters are clean and dry, apply the sealer with the paint pad. You can pour a little puddle and spread it with the paint pad. Work in smaller, manageable areas.
    4. Leave the sealer for the recommended time and buff off the residue with the lint-free rags. Be sure to TOTALLY remove all excess sealer or you might end up with streakiness and smudginess. Change rags often to prevent smearing excess sealer.
    5. Repeat steps 3 & 4 until all your surfaces are sealed.
    6. Leave sealer to cure for 24 hours and test for water absorption. Drip water on the stone to see if the stone still darkens. If it does, another application of sealer is in order.
    7. Repeat the entire procedure until water beads up and no longer darkens the stone.

    Do not think that more is better. Work with smaller quantities of sealer and properly clean up after each application. Your results will be better than trying a single, heavy handed application.

    For daily cleaning, just use a couple microfiber towels (one dry and one slightly damp) Clean counters with the damp one - you could add some soap to it if you wished - and buff dry with the dry rag. No fuss, and pretty easy

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    clipped on: 08.28.2009 at 11:57 pm    last updated on: 08.28.2009 at 11:58 pm

    RE: Good grief, DH likes carrara marble now, help! (Follow-Up #1)

    posted by: erikanh on 08.27.2009 at 12:56 am in Kitchens Forum

    Oh man! Why'd you have to go and show DH the marble??

    Seriously though, you won't have to worry about stains if you seal the marble. I used 511 Impregnator that I bought at Home Depot to seal my countertops twice when they were installed 6 months ago.

    I have a very messy DH and DD. Very messy (sigh). These are the some of the spilled substances that have been left on my Carrera marble overnight.

    red wine
    cranberry juice
    soy sauce
    curry
    Cosmopolitan martini
    black bean sauce

    I cook with tomato sauce, lemons and balsamic vinegar without fear! This week I spilled half a bottle of vanilla when I was baking DH's birthday cake. I expected it to get a big etch mark, but nothing.

    Sealing doesn't prevent etching, but I've been able to buff away any noticeable etch spots by using a wet scrubbie and a little bit of Barkeeper's Friend. I'm not sure if this method will work for everyone's marble, but I have a very matte honed finish on my countertops. I learned about this method for removing etching on the Vermont Quarries website.

    One caveat: marble is softer than granite. You don't want to cut on it or throw your keys down on it because sharp objects can leave scratches. You can also get "bruise marks" if you bang a heavy pot on it ... looks like a little white spot.

    I'm linking you to a blog where the homeowner performed a very thorough stain test on his marble.

    Good luck with your decision!

    Erika

    Here is a link that might be useful: Sealing Marble: The Acid Test

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    clipped on: 08.28.2009 at 11:15 pm    last updated on: 08.28.2009 at 11:15 pm

    Traditional Modern Pearl White Kitchen in New York City

    posted by: scottielee on 07.14.2009 at 10:58 pm in Kitchens Forum

    hello,
    thanks to everyone here for generously sharing their renovating experiences, ideas, and wonderful pictures. here are some shots of my little kitchen renovated last year...better late than never right ^_^
    cheers
    scott





    Cabinets: Omega Signature, Maple in Parisian Pearl
    Countertop: Statuary White Honed Marble
    Islandtop: Craft-Art Brazilian Cherry
    Backsplash: Bisazza Damasco Bianco Glass Tiles
    Floor: Casa Dolce Casa/Casamood Neutra Silver Porcelain Tiles
    Range: Wolf Duel Fuel DF304
    Hood: Wolf Pro Wall PW302718
    Dishwasher: Miele LaPerla G2830SCi/SS
    Refridgerator; GE Monogram
    Sink: Franke Kubus KBX-110-21
    Faucet: Grohe Ladylux Cafe 33755SDO
    Hardware: Bouvet Knobs 5201-25 and Bouvet Drop Pulls 5002-10 & 5008-18
    Pendants: Flos Fucsia 1
    Undercabinet Lighting: Kichler 10560WH & 10566WH
    Stools: Emeco Kong and Emeco Stool

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    clipped on: 08.14.2009 at 05:50 pm    last updated on: 08.14.2009 at 05:51 pm

    November's finished kitchen for FKB

    posted by: november on 03.05.2008 at 01:18 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Here are the details:

    Cabinets: Plain & Fancy, Dove White, Shaker inset doors, slab drawers
    Pulls: ORB from Home Expo
    Countertop: Honed Absolute Black granite
    Island top: Maple butcher block from Grothouse Lumber, 52"x96" with oiled finish
    Ovens: Kitchenaid Architect II Series 30" double wall oven
    Cooktop: Kitchenaid 36" Architect II
    Dishwasher: Kitchenaid Architect II
    Refrigerator: Kitchenaid Architect II
    Vent Hood: GE Profile
    Main Sink: Elkay 30" undermount
    Prep Sink in island: Elkay
    Main Faucet: Kohler Fairfax
    Prep Faucet: Kohler Fairfax
    Paint Color: Benjamin Moore Moonshadow

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    butler pantry

    view from mudroom doorway

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    refrigerator

    View from breakfast nook

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    clipped on: 08.14.2009 at 05:31 pm    last updated on: 08.14.2009 at 05:32 pm

    Lissa711's finished kitchen_Cream Cabinets, Dark Cherry Island

    posted by: lissa711 on 09.26.2008 at 07:07 am in Kitchens Forum

    kitchen from butler's pantry entrance
    view to breakfast room from kitchen
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    bookshelf side of island
    butler's pantry
    mudroom (purple cabinets)
    mudroom cubbies either side of garage door

    Kitchen Information:
    Cabinets Crystal Cabinets
    Perimeter - Frosty White with Van Dyke Brown Glaze
    Island & Butler's Pantry - Cherry with Black Highlights
    Country Classic Door Style

    Appliances:
    Fridge: Subzero 642 - 42" side by side with cabinetry panels
    Dishwasher: Miele G2180SCVI with panel
    Rangetop: Wolf SRT366 36" Sealed Rangetop
    Ovens: Thermador POD302 Double Electric Ovens (Top is convection)
    Hood Liner: Vent a Hood 600 CFM Liner BH234SLDSS
    Microwave: Sharp Microwave Drawer 24" KB6024MS
    Sink: Ticor (learned about on this forum) SS508 30 5/8 x 18 1/8
    Faucet: Steamvalveoriginal.com

    Hardware: Top Knobs Satin Nickel. Pulls M808-96, Knobs M326, Fridge Handles M808-12

    Lighting:
    Hudson Valley Pelham Pendants in Aged Brass from Croft and Little.com
    Ceiling High Hats are LR6 LED lights from Lightingonthenet.com. We're very happy with the lighting from these. Indistinguishable from incandescent and still dimmable.

    Countertops: honed Absolute Black granite on perimeter and honed Imperial Danby on island. Perimeter is eased edge and island is ogee.

    Floor - wood to match rest of house. Varied plank with pegs. Stain is a mix of Minwax Provincial with Jacobean.

    Backsplash - Sonoma Tile Makers. Field tile is Otter color shiny with crackle glaze.

    Paint - Benjamin Moore HC81 Manchester Tan. Trim is Linen White

    Butler's Pantry: Same cabinetry as kitchen. Counters also honed Imperial Danby. Sink is Ticor bar sink, smallest they had, don't remember number.

    Faucet is Blanco 157-106-ST Terra Single Lever Bar Faucet in Satin Nickel from Faucet Depot

    Filtered Instant Hot/Cold is InSinkErator F-HC2215SN Country Series Satin Nickel from Faucet Depot

    Wine Fridge is Marvel - bought as a sample from appliance store

    Undercounter Beverege(sp) Fridge from ULine with Crystal IceMaker, CLRC02175B00 - with cabinetry panel. Don't like this at all. The back keeps freezing up and then melting (have had service call) and the ice maker is incredibly noisy.

    Lighting: Chandelier is Corbett Venetian 1 Light Ceiling Pendant 78-41 from Capitol Lighting. I love the Capitol Lighting website (1800lighting.com) I ordered quite a few lights from them throughout the house and was very happy with their pricing and customer service.

    Mudroom: Cabinets custom built and painted in semi-gloss BM Shadow (eggplant color). Washer and Dryer are Maytag Epic. Very happy with these. Floor is Charcoal Gray Slate from boxes of slate I picked up at Expo. Also very happy with this. The cubbies were custom built by my contractor.

    Still have to get switch/outlet covers and window treatments and wall art. Otherwise so happy to be done!

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    clipped on: 08.12.2009 at 04:45 pm    last updated on: 08.12.2009 at 04:45 pm

    Prettykitty's Classic Vintage White Victorian Lacanche Kitchen

    posted by: prettykitty1971 on 10.06.2008 at 09:22 pm in Kitchens Forum

    This is double posted from the Kitchen discussions page

    I have been asked by several to post my kitchen redo so, here goes...forgive the repeats...forgive the length...

    We began designing a rework of our home in 2004. We actually got started in September 2006 and moved back in April 2007 under duress - it was not completely finished, but we could not stand living on top of each other anymore. It was finished by August of 2007 with me having to throw tantrums every few days at my contractor to get workers here to finish the kitchen. At one point I threatened to wear a sandwich board up and down our street, reading "you would have to been crazy to use (my contractor)"

    Okay, back to 2004: The back of the house (where the kitchen is located) was okay and livable, but it did not flow or have any stylistic continuity to the front of the house, which is so amazing in itself. I felt like I was in a different house when in the kitchen. The main part of the house was built in 1890 and still has a Victorian feel, the kitchen and breakfast room and porches were built about 1920 in the Craftsman era and kept being added onto and changed � to the point that an "extra" half bath had been added jutting out into a hallway and disrupting important flow. There were a few things that had been done that would make me stare and say "why???" The kitchen also felt very far away from the living areas of the house.

    I have slipped in "before" shots where appropriate on the web album. Here is the link to my photo album http://picasaweb.google.com/quapaw/Our1890HomeAndKitchenRemodelRestoration#

    or click on any photos below and it will take you to my album containing photos of our entire house.

    before:

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    after: same view
    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    The house was near museum quality in the front rooms, but it was like entering the twilight zone in the kitchen and breakfast room, breakfast room (yes, 2 of them) and bathroom(s). Our house had 2 nightmarish half baths downstairs, one of which had been built in the middle of a major passage way and was so small a space that the previous owner who had built it bumped out the opposite wall just a funky bit to accommodate the space. I would not even allow people to use that bath as it was not vented properly (think smelly) and would not flush well (think plunger). Mainly, we wanted to restore the architectural integrity to the back of the house, which included removing a diagonal path and countertop that was the main path to the kitchen, raising doorways up to 10 feet to match the doorways in the original house � kitchen doorways etc, were all 7 & 8 feet, one directly behind a 10 foot opening, so it was readily apparent something was amiss. Another goal was getting a back door and opening up our back porch which had been totally enclosed and door removed � the room that went nowhere with a window looking into the current kitchen. I also was determined to have French doors from the kitchen that went out to a deck which was the same elevation as the kitchen floor, to the North, shady side of our property.

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    We hired an architect that we had worked with previously with great success - we saw eye to eye on everything. After several attempts, he fired ME - not the other way around. He would not draw what I wanted, kept giving me drawings of what he thought we should do, that we should work with what had been done to the house - "don't open the old back porch, build on a new one; put the bathroom in the old porch," etc. That was $3000 down the tubes, we were already starting out in the negative! A dear architect friend of mine said she would work on the design. She drew what I wanted. I would ask for suggestions, but she assured me that my ideas made sense and would be really improving our home. The drawings were not cheap, but it was well worth it and we are even better friends, although, I was afraid I would be fired at any moment!

    Our cabinet maker said he was going to get me a nice "johnny-back" cabinet for over the toilet, I said no, you're going to make this...

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    A word about the bathroom: I loved this apron sink but knew I could not use it in the kitchen with the island we wanted, so I came up with this cabinet. The floor is American Restoration Tile and includes encaustic tiles. I almost went with white subway tile, but I felt it would be too utilitarian for the space, so these are travertine stone cut into bricks. They are the kind with holes and I paid a large fortune for the tiler not to fill the holes with grout! Many like the bathroom more than the kitchen. We had a family member who was very much a sportsman and inherited all his fishing and hunting items and gear and have chosen to use it in decorating to add a bit a masculinity to the house and we loved him very much so we enjoy having it around us.

    I have to say that I am proud of myself for coming up with this design, the architect drew it, but it was all me and my husband thinking it out and after living a year in the house, we knew what we needed and how we need it to look. I am picky if you haven't figured it out.

    The basis for the design was figuring out where the openings had to be in the rooms. I wanted the French doors on the north wall, we had to have the passage to the dining room, and we needed a double opening to the breakfast room. So with all that, that dictated where we could and couldn't have cabinets, a stove, a sink, etc. We were also returning the flow to the back of the house, so that made it easier to figure out where the back hall need to go and what was left over would become the new full bath. I will admit that in the days leading up to the wreaking crew coming, I was still trying to figure out if we could get a better layout out of the space.

    after receiving yet another delivery from ebay, my husband asked how many historic fixtures I had purchased, my quiet response "I don't know..."

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    How I came to have a Lacanche range (www.frenchranges.com): One day I was researching Thermador rangers and ended up on the Gardenweb forums. Someone had written that if you are considering a Thermador then you should take a look at one of these and provided a link to a photo of what turned out to be a Lacanche range. I showed the photo to our neighbor, who we had been taking care of everyday for the past 2 years, just to show him. He was always taking cooking classes, taking photos of his food, practicing garnishes, buying every kitchen gadget on the market, etc. He had a digital Wolf range that he was in love with so I knew he would appreciate seeing this beautiful stove - I didn't know such a thing even existed. Paul saw the French Range - the Lacanche - and said "You NEED that in your kitchen!" I said "No, I don't need anything of the sort" (our previous range was 30 years old, so anything would have been better, a camping stove would have been an improvement!) and he said "You NEED that stove!" He insisted on buying me that stove as his gift to the kitchen, it was also his idea that our cabinets go all the way up the 12 foot walls - "you might as well go all the way with this." My husband likes to say he had to pay for the kitchen to go with the Lacanche!

    Given how my main hobby has to do with historic preservation, I knew I wanted a classic kitchen. I wanted marble countertops and inset cabinet doors and those French doors! I spent hundreds of dollars buying kitchen magazines and found several key ideas from that process. The glass front cabinets and the stainless steel countertop on either side of the French Lacanche range came from one layout I found, the open shelves from another and the pink pantry from yet another photo from a magazine (theirs was bright yellow!). Our butler's pantry was actually in our historic house plans from 1920, so we just recreated it. About our butler's pantry: the bottom 2 cabinets on the left are false fronts - they don't open - they are where the air return in located. The vents are on the opposite side in the back stair hall, so this just camouflages the box of the air return.

    air return in the bottom cabinets

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    The glass cabinets, I thought about that problem of food storage and how unattractive that is and how to make glass front cabinets work for me. I just felt glass would be more appropriate for the look I wanted - it just looks elegant to me and says "original" although I'm sure that most true Victorian cabinets had wood fronts. I planned what would go in the cabinets before we got too far in design. I have about 3 complete sets of china in addition to two sets of everyday dishes and needed a place to put/display them, so then I needed a place for food. It's hard to visualize how much space you need for food when your food is all packed up for construction! I happened to have a little nook (it was our downstairs half bath, you could get your knees knocked off if someone tried to enter the bathroom while you were on the toilet!) that we originally designed as a desk area, that I made into "the pink pantry" which actually goes around a corner and is behind the refrigerator, where all the mess of the pantry is along with microwave and toaster oven. The part of the pantry that is visible (if you're at the main sink or range)stays neat and tidy given the way that it is designed - narrow shelves for spices, baking ingredients and display. I saw it in a magazine with its Victorian-ish trim and gave it to my carpenter and he just went to work. The counter in the pantry is just wood - out of money for any other surface and since there is not a sink in there it is not a problem. It is painted pink as that is the color that my 4 year old picked out - it was a compromise as she wanted the entire kitchen to be pink! She also wanted Dora the Explorer knobs - yes, there is such a thing - but I put my foot down on that!

    the pink pantry

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    Where the "extra bathroom" had been removed at the back stairs and other demolition had taken place near the new/old back door, we found exterior sub walls under the plaster and sheetrock. In old houses this material is something like 1 x 6 set on the diagonal. I had been thinking about paint colors and what I was going to do with all this extra wall and I decided how wonderful it would be if it were returned to its exterior foundations - wood siding. I love texture and my contractor thought I was nuts, but he did do the siding for me and milled corner pieces for near the back door. We painted the siding the cream trim color like the rest of our interior house. This really added a wonderful historic and unique quality to the project. The house really looks like it's evolved and been added on to in a rather careful way.

    Exterior siding and trim on the inside

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    For our back hallway we mimicked the wainscoting that is in our foyer and dining room, but on a cheaper level - we used bead board and MDF. The bead board wainscoting is the cheaper stuff: it does not have as deep cuts/lines/beads as the good stuff and the flat vertical and cross pieces are not wood, they are that MDF that they are always making stuff out of on HGTV. The top piece is wood trim.

    bead board wainscoting

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    When I was picking out materials for our kitchen I finally reached a moment where I was afraid that the kitchen would be nicer than the rest of the house - which I did not want at all - so I began to try to pick out elements from the original house that could be reproduced in the kitchen, if only in variation, like the wainscoting and the slider doors instead of pocket doors.

    We have 4 countertop surfaces(it works because you can only see 2 at anyone time), one of which is unpolished black granite, which looks a lot like soapstone, then marble, polished granite and stainless steel. I really wanted a veined marble for the island and despite everyone, even the marble contractor telling me I did not want that as my island, I got it.

    I chose polished marble on the back splash so the gray veining would pick up the gray of the stainless steel, but I also considered bead board (we used it on our butler's pantry, I really love the look and it can be an economical choice if you get the "fake" stuff) and painted pressed tin. We have the marble island and love it and all of it's etchings that my 3 kids inflict upon it. They are not really noticeable unless you look for them.

    We have slider doors on reproduction barn door hardware (www.barndoorhardware.com) that divide our kitchen and breakfast room. Our house has pocket doors, but we could not afford to build 2 walls, so this was another research project and something we are really happy with and that everyone marvels over. I really think it turned out better than pocket doors would have and it is unexpected, which I like.

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    Our cabinets are creamy white with feet for an unfitted look. I did choose to get appliances that will take a custom panel, to be hidden into the cabinetry - careful if you get inset cabinet doors (where the door closes flush into the cabinet box) appliances that take a panel are designed to take full overlay doors - we just barely avoided a crisis situation that would have required me to be tried for murder. The main cabinets go all the way up the 12 foot walls, it is quite impressive looking, but fits the style of our home. Our bathroom cabinet is painted a red to give the impression of old wood - I could not afford to have "good wood" so came up with a color that happened to work really well for us. I bought most of my reproduction hardware from Van Dyke's restorers, Historic House Parts, and Rejuvenation, all online. Also Lee Valley Hardware Catalogue has some great hardward, my drop pull came from them. I have different types of drawer and door pulls, just one or two in key areas, to help the kitchen look as if it evolved (Two are fish pulls, I love them!). Our kitchen finally feels like it goes with the rest of our home.

    drop pull

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    fish handle - everyone loves this one handle in the middle of all our Victorian cup pulls and amethyst knobs!

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    some other creative things that worked out really well for us: you will notice in the web pictures that originally there were 2 windows on the wall where the stove goes. The outside of our house is a rough stucco (it was "smothered" in stucco about 1920, the Victorian gingerbread and elements are under the stucco - visible in our attic!) and I doubted that my contractor could match the stucco to my specifications - we had already had previously unsuccessful attempts on other stucco repairs. On the outside of our house, the windows appear to be there - I had wood shutters installed in the openings, the windows simply look shuttered. It-s a nice touch to our exterior and I did not have to worry about the stucco being less than perfect.

    On our new deck/Mayan temple, we had the steps wrapped around it - I did not want unsightly deck railings - my kids did for the pirate ship they have always dreamed of! On two sides there are plain built in benches - no backs - that provide a barrier on the sides that are butted up to the house.

    From Our 1890 home and kitchen remodel/restoration

    We had a TON of ups and downs with our project. We were supposed to be in construction for 4 months, but it really took a year and we were out of our home 9 months (we moved in with Paul our next door neighbor - all 5 of us!) Toward the end, May 2007, I actually said to our contractor over the phone, in my most stern and reprimanding voice "it's hard to appreciate how beautiful you have made my kitchen when you keep screwing up even the new stuff that you put in!" His response, "I know." He did not want to put the siding on the wall, but later came back and asked me if "he" hadn't had a good idea(he was kidding, telling me I had done good). Ask me sometime about what happens when the concealed appliances don't fit far enough back into their holes!

    Lacanche Range, Sully Model - High performance, dual-fuel, double-oven stoves from France, one oven is electric, the other gas, top is gas and has the French cast-iron simmer plate over one of the two 18,000 BTU burners.
    16 colors and finishes available www.lacancheusa.com
    Bosch Dishwasher
    Kitchenaid refrigerator drawers
    Range vent-a-hood: Rangecraft
    Ice maker - Marvel Industries
    Compactor - Kitchenaid
    Shaws Original Fireclay Apron Front Farm Sink by Rohl
    Blanco stainless steel bar sink
    Perrin and Rowe nickel plated sink faucets and sprayers Stainless Steel Countertops and range shelf by Bray Sheet
    Antique fixtures bought on ebay, polished and wired by local craftman

    Here is a link that might be useful: Prettykitty's Kitchen and House photos

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    clipped on: 08.12.2009 at 04:40 pm    last updated on: 08.12.2009 at 04:40 pm

    marble & soapstone installed today! photos

    posted by: katieob on 08.07.2009 at 03:20 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Hi all.

    Everything went very smoothly and I am so excited.
    Thanks to GWers (stoners) who shared all their marble and soapstone experiences, pictures, and info-made me confident when I chose the slabs and I'm so pleased with the results (giddy......hugging the installers!)

    Now we're waiting for the cabinetmaker to return from vacation & put in upper cabs... Excuse the mess.

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    Thanks for looking,
    Katie

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    clipped on: 08.08.2009 at 08:53 am    last updated on: 08.12.2009 at 03:31 pm

    RE: What shape island yields the most seating? (Follow-Up #4)

    posted by: buehl on 07.09.2009 at 03:33 pm in Kitchens Forum

    In general, you need 24" of linear space for each person & a 15" overhang for counter-height seating. I would not go less than 15" since your island is replacing a table. If you have a corner w/seats on each side, remember to leave at least 12" (preferably 15") extra for shared leg room. (Yes, this applies to you b/c of the proposed diagonal sides)

    This should illustrate it...

    See how Lagrant does not have seating right up to the edge on the side closest to us...that's b/c that last seat on the left side needs that for leg room.

    With your setup, you could get one seat on the 39" side...but the 12" overhang will not really be enough. The 18" sides will be much too shallow for someone to sit at plus it would be tight anyway not only b/c of the lack of linear space but also b/c of the shared leg space.

    This is what you're trying to do...

    (1 square = 3" x 3")


    Do you have a DR? With our remodel, we also eliminated table seating in our bay window. But, we raised the window and put a counter along that wall w/a sink in the bay. We also took down the wall b/w the DR and Kitchen and now use our DR for all our family meals. We do have 2 seats at the peninsula b/w the Kitchen & DR for a quick snack or breakfast or even to setup a laptop. Our peninsula is 5'2" w/a 15" overhang.

    BTW...we tried to do the same thing with our kitchen...put in an island w/seating...we even tried to follow the contour of the bay like you're trying to do, but ultimately it did not work. So that's when we decided to make that wall a run of cabinets & counters...the best thing we did in our kitchen!


    To help you find a way to get 4 seats, it would help if we could see a layout of the kitchen w/dimensions...especially the bay window alcove's dimensions. Is your design finalized?

    If it is, you're going to be very limited in what you can do at this point...which means you may not get the 4 seats you want.

    If it isn't, then perhaps we can find a way to get you what you want.

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    clipped on: 08.10.2009 at 09:57 am    last updated on: 08.10.2009 at 09:57 am

    RE: Kitchen Islands - Lets See Your Pics (Follow-Up #34)

    posted by: oofasis on 02.07.2009 at 03:09 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Furletcity, I love your creativity -- what a beautiful result!

    I had multiple purposes intended for my 8'x3.5' island: dish/pot/pan storage, wine fridge enclosure, seating and baking. I didn't feel the need for a prep sink and honestly have never once wished I'd had one. My main sink is so readily accessible, and I love the great uninterrupted expanse of my marble top. It was particularly wonderful during all the entertaining we did over the holidays, allowing plenty of room for serving plates and bowls without impinging on my food prep space.

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    RE: Lacanche Ranges part 39 (Follow-Up #148)

    posted by: chef-marty on 06.12.2009 at 08:20 pm in Appliances Forum

    So Finally everyone, I have cooked on my Lacanche! It did not change my life by itself but having my house in Italy might.

    Might first impression and this relates directly to our new member cheril27, "If you buy professional equipment, you will make a professional mess!" I missed Luis and Raul as I cleaned the spattered olive oil off everthing. The stove is very to clean and did not mind it. In the outskirts where we are. we use bottled gas and the range made funny buzzing sounds like the sound effects they use when dipicting buzz bombs over London. The flames where very hot. I could only simmer on the smallest flame. I really like the simmer cabinet. It is a super crock pot and will be a great help when I do a formal 6-7 course dinner. I bought a plancha (flat griddle) and I love it. Besides the French toast and hash brown thing, it will double as a French top when I need it. The hood by fornair is fantastic. Really pulls the air up and out with great light. In Italy it is law that there be thermocouples to stop the gas if there is no flame. Why not here in the US? On my range if the flame goes out the gas is shut off. Makes sense no? According to French Ranges this is not available here. I love the range with no qualms at all. I am yet another one who sight unseen spent more money than I should have by far and I am walking away content with my purchase. My favorite thing? The maroon glace. The kitchen just would not have had the same finess without it. Here are two shots of the nearly completed kitchen. It still need some warming up but I'm happy.

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    Pantry cabinet (Follow-Up #22)

    posted by: hollylh on 06.12.2009 at 10:35 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Here is another shot I didn't include before, cabinet closed:

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    Here it is open:

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    Oops...sorry about the view of the toilet.

    I really think a shallow pantry is the way to go. No wasted space and you can see everything. Of course, I would love it if this were a little bigger. However, I was thinking about how much food we waste inadvertently anyway, and maybe for me not having tons and tons of surplus on hand is a good thing. I like running to the market right before dinner anyway, when I can, for inspiration. Maybe I just wish I were Parisian...

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    RE: Vaulted ceiling in kitchen? Anybody done this? Pics please! (Follow-Up #16)

    posted by: elizpiz on 05.12.2009 at 09:40 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Mythreesons, here's ours - we love it!

    Long view
    From the stairs

    Some up close shots
    A peek at the widow's peak

    The widow's peak

    Chandelier? Art?

    Eliz

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    RE: Kitchen Islands - Lets See Your Pics (Follow-Up #11)

    posted by: mamadadapaige on 01.01.2009 at 11:02 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Lets just say I could have been a heck of a lot more creative if budget weren't a concern. Here is what we ended up with which suits our needs very well and was a good deal less $$ than what we originally had drawn.

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    RE: Kitchen Islands - Lets See Your Pics (Follow-Up #77)

    posted by: blakey on 04.01.2009 at 05:08 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Here's mine:

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    RE: Please vote - bands or no bands on Modernaire hood (Follow-Up #13)

    posted by: marthavila on 07.31.2009 at 01:19 am in Kitchens Forum

    I don't know if this will help you or not, but here's a photo of my MA PS26 that may help give you an idea of how big blocks of color on a large hood will work with stainless trim and a matching colored range: Photobucket

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    After a year...we're finally done!

    posted by: redroze on 07.19.2009 at 01:27 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Our chairs are in which makes our kitchen finally, officially done. (Redroze gives out a loud "woohoo".) The desk area still needs a monitor and chair but I consider that DH's area. =)



    Redroze's Renovation Blog

    Next up...decorating our living room (around a white Pottery Barn sofa that I got for 50% off), and finishing up our upstairs guest bath and master ensuite. Fun stuff!!





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    98% finished White/Soapstone/Marble kitchen

    posted by: wascolette on 04.17.2009 at 04:59 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Still have a few things to do like paint the corbels on the island, finish toekicks, panel refrigerator, etc., but after 5 years of house construction I'm happy to be using the kitchen finally!

    Cabinets: Custom built, painted BM Atrium White
    Counters: Minas soapstone
    Island top: Calacatta marble
    Island paint: P&L Copenhagen
    Wall paint: BM Barley
    Sink: 30" Rohl apron front
    Faucet: Hamat
    Floors: Kahrs Castle & Cottage engineered
    Range: Lacanche Cluny
    Refrigerator: KA 42" SXS (to be panelled)
    Dishwasher: KA (panelled)
    Hardware: Amerock Ambrosia in weathered nickel
    Pendant Lights: R.A.M. Lighting, model: Washington
    Bar Stools: on line through Ballard Designs

    Here is a link that might be useful: link to pics

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    Finished Small Creamy White and Soapstone Kitchen for FKB

    posted by: mary_in_nc on 07.21.2008 at 10:39 am in Kitchens Forum

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    Details:

    Cabinets Medallion Santa Cruz inset with Divinity finish
    Countertop Green Mountain Original P.A. Soapstone
    Butcherblock Custome made Endgrain in cherry with walnut trim
    Backsplash Subway Ceramics subway tile in glossy white. Outlet covers came from them as well.
    Hardware Oil Rub Bronze
    Latches-Rejuvination.com
    Cup pulls- Deltana Elongated Cup Pulls from www.cabinetpull.com
    Knobs Restoration Hardware
    Range Wolf 30" Duel Fuel
    Refrigerator Liebherr 30" counter depth
    Microwave Sharp 24" Drawer Microwave
    Dishwasher Miele Optima
    Disposal Insinkerator Evolutoin Compact
    Vent Sirius 30in
    Sink 30" Rohl Shaws Farm Sink
    Prep sink Rohl Allia prep sink
    Faucets Perrin and Rowe
    Under Cabinet Lighting Kichler Xenon
    Pendants Don't know! Came with house. Similar pendants at www.rejuvination.com
    Paint Walls- Sherwin Williams Rice Grain in eggshell, Trim- Sherwin Williams Alabaster in gloss
    Ceiling Height 9 feet
    Space Roughly 11 x 15

    Here is a link that might be useful: Creamy White and Soapstone Kitchen

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    Finished Kitchen creamy white, lacanche, calacatta

    posted by: tearose21 on 07.13.2009 at 07:37 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Posted earlier but pictures were too small. Hope this works.
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    Finally - Elizpiz's Finished Kitchen

    posted by: elizpiz on 03.25.2009 at 12:04 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Well, here it is I am finally posting my finished kitchen. A quick "before and after" full album linked below.

    Before...
    So, before....

    View from basement stairs

    After...
    And after...

    The beautiful Horsefeathers bookshelf

    Some background and few details:

    Our house is almost 100 years old and as such, the original kitchen was quite small about 9x10. We have an unusually shaped lot, and the shape allowed for us to be able to knock down an exterior wall and build out. Here is the original floor plan:

    Original floor plan

    I love to cook but for all of my adult life I have never cooked in a kitchen that was bigger than 9x10. I've never had a dishwasher before, unless DH counts (we didn't have one in my family home either) and the efficiency in our "zone" came from being able to reach everything because the space was so darn small!

    The objective was to make the kitchen look like it was always there, with more up to date appliances. To achieve that, we had the cabinets hand painted and distressed and chose heritage colours. We used reclaimed oak planks for the island countertop; the hardware is a combination of hand forged cast iron from England and finds from architectural salvage. Countertops and the main sink are soapstone.

    An imperative was to find a home for my 300+ (and counting) cookbook collection. We achieved that through clever cabinetry and the acquisition of a beautiful old hutch.

    But most of all, we wanted the kitchen to be the heart of the house, and it really is. I can honestly say that we don't sit in the living room anymore!

    We started the project in May and it was completed in December. The past few weeks have been spent getting the finishing details (stools, etc). Along with the kitchen, we rewired the house, excavated down to a new laundry room, added storage, repainted everything, redid the bathroom in the basement etc etc... It was a house reno disguised as a kitchen addition.

    We didn't work with a designer - the ideas were ours, brought to life by our GC - and primarily me spending *hours* right here with all of you dear GWers. So THANK YOU for all of your generosity, your advice, your wisdom and your passion for all things TKO I wish I could throw a giant GW party to give you all a big hug!

    Top notes (feel free to contact me if you have questions):
    Soapstone counters
    Custom cabinetry
    Liebherr fridge
    TurboChef double ovens
    BlueStar cooktop with centre grill
    Modern-Aire hood
    Walker-Zanger backsplash
    Miele Excella full dishwasher
    FP Dishwasher Drawer
    Kohler faucets: potfiller, main sink, prep sink
    Hardware perimeter cabinets: Whitechapel
    Hardware island and fridge: architectural salvage from Old Good Things in NYC
    Bar stools from America Retold

    Fair warning my album has lots of pix I just couldnt bear not to include the details.

    Eliz

    Here is a link that might be useful: Elizpiz's Kitchen Slideshow

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    99% Finished Kitchen--creamy white w/soapstone

    posted by: jbrodie on 03.01.2009 at 06:59 pm in Kitchens Forum

    Finally! Our kitchen is finished! I never thought the day would come, and boy am I enjoying it. I owe so much to this forum. I can't tell you how much you all helped me. Thank you!!! I hope I can help others in return.

    Hope I'm not putting too many pictures!

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    Quick description (feel free to contact me if you have questions)
    -Soapstone: Julia
    -Cabinets: Custom, inset/flush shaker style with single bead (waiting to see if we get some issues resolved before I recommend the cabinet maker)
    -Bookcase and desk tops: walnut
    -Sharp microwave oven drawer (love it!)
    -GE fridge
    -Shaw 30 inch apron sink
    -Wolf range top
    -Thermador double ovens
    -Vent-a-hood hood
    -Dal tile
    -potfiller: Newport Brass
    -hot/cold faucet Newport Brass
    -Main faucet: Mico
    -Door to garage: one panel painted with chalkboard paint...fun! The kids love this and it's fun to put messages to guests, each other, holiday wishes, etc.
    -Pull out baskets (love these...I keep bread in one and potatoes, onions, etc. in the other)
    -Wine shelf--love it!
    -Bar stools from Sturbridge Yankee Workshop (love these and they were so reasonable!)
    -What would I do differently? More than 12 inch overhang on seating area of island (maybe 14-16 inch). And I might skip the bead board in the backs of the bookshelfs and glass cabs.

    Happy kitchen designing to all! Thank you again!

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    pics Cream cabs, soapstne, marble, alder island - almost done

    posted by: ndvweb on 11.13.2008 at 01:31 pm in Kitchens Forum

    6 weeks and counting... can't wait to cook again. There's been several delays, including today's 'streaked marble' countertop but I'm still feeling positive the end is in sight.

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