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RE: Need help designing a shower system (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: mongoct on 03.11.2013 at 05:47 pm in Bathrooms Forum

I'll back you up one step, and that's with your waterproofing. Hydroban is indeed a water barrier, but not a vapor barrier.

With the vapor drive in a steam shower, you'll want to use something else. I usually recommend Kerdi, as that's my membrane of choice in a steam shower. But there are others as well. If you want a roll-on like Hydroban, then look at RedGard.

When you do your water/vapor proofing, your walls will probably be cement board over studs. The cement board will usually stop just above the flange of the pan. You carry your membrane from the cement board and on to the flange of the pan. That creates a complete barrier.

Take a look at this thread and scroll down about 2/3rds of the way through it until you see a couple of hand drawn depictions. Though the drawings were for a tub, the idea is the same.

As a reminder, you'll want the Kerdi or RedGard or whatever vaporproof membrane you use to be on all walls and the ceiling.

Before we move on to the plumbing, does that make sense?


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RE: What Size Rain Shower? (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: jacobse on 12.01.2010 at 11:35 pm in Bathrooms Forum

I also have a 10" Hansgrohe -- actually one from their Axor line: the 10" Uno Downpour.

I was planning to get the Hansgrohe version, the 240 Air, which is also 10" and has the same 180 nozzles, until I found this Axor version. The Axor has a flat, polished face, while the Raindance air has the ridged plastic used in all the Raindance Air showerheads.

I just love the look of the polished nickel (or chrome) face on the Axor version, and surprisingly to me, it isn't more expensive. We have the Raindance Air version as a 6" handheld (Raindance S 150 Air). You can see the grey plastic face of the Raidance Air series better in this picture than the one above of the larger head:

Here's a picture of our showerheads:

Back to your original question, I'd go with the 10" over the 8" because it gives you a wider cylinder of water. If you're getting a rain shower head, why not maximize the rain shower experience? You've got a nice size shower, so I don't think there's any reason to go smaller. (Of course, you can go larger than 10"; there are 12" and 14" rain heads as well, but you need a wider water supply line for the larger of these, and the prices get pretty astronomical for the larger heads.)

-- Eric


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Finished! Transitional white marble bathroom

posted by: pipdog on 08.22.2012 at 05:47 pm in Bathrooms Forum

We finally finished the upgrade of our master bath! The bath had been remodeled within the last 7-10 years by the previous owners, but it was pretty sloppy DIY job with few too many grout lines for our taste and we didn't like the tile counters. We decided to expand into a closet and make room for a separate shower.

Truth be told, I'm a little freaked out by the maintenance of the white marble (two toddlers use this bath), but so far it seems to be holding up. We did have some funky grout issues with the shower floor (efflorescence and orange spots appearing), but they seemed to have cleared up on their own. Hopefully it won't be a maintenance nightmare. If anyone has any good cleaning tips for white marble, I'd love to hear them.

I still need some artwork for the wall above the bath and some curtains, but the room is ready for prime time, and we're so happy it's over!

Calacatta Nuevo marble from AKDO - subway in shower, hex on floors and mini-bricks in niches and backsplash
Grout - White Frost by C-Cure. We originally tried Silver Shadow by Laticrete but it was too dark so we went lighter.
Counters - Caesarstone
Duravit tub
Faucets/tub fixture: Toto
Shower fixture - Raindance by Hansgrohe
BM Light Pewter
Lights - Restoration Hardware
Cabinetry - existing, sprayed with BM White Dove
Pulls from Lowes

Here's the before:

And the after:


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RE: Rain shower ? Want to decide if I should install one (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: noopd on 04.05.2013 at 09:30 pm in Bathrooms Forum

Here's my experience:

I never like rainshower head that much before.. I tried them a few times at hotels/resort, and they are all kinda weak and I keep getting water in my eyes.. so I didn't understand all these craze for rainshower head past few years.

For our home remodel, since we have a few bathrooms, I actually picked a rainshower head for my master bathroom. Why? I like this particular one because it's pretty wide. I want to get a "waterfall" showerhead. and I want to have an open bathroom/open shower for the master. Rain shower head have the water go straight down from the showerhead and you don't get a lot of splashes. It looks mordern and I save money on huge glass panels.

So, now, my master bathroom has a rainshower with waterfall feature, and a hand shower. I found I like this one quite a bit. The rain fall is nice,, it has this "air" technology to make the waterdrop really big and nice even with waterflow standard. I can actually get a good shower and I can duck out my head and still give good water coverage for my body. If I need extra water, i can switch to the hand shower or the rain fall.. So, I'm quite please with this model. I have been using it for a year and a half.

In your case, I think you will regret it if you only have the rainshower head because it will take a long time to rince shapoo out for long hair. But if you have a hand shower too on the side, then it's fine..

When you shop for rainshower head, beware of the kind of rainshower head that just give small streams of water, and not rain drop like.. i think those sucks.

In my guest room, we have hand shower and bodyspray.. those are nice too if you like lots of water

Showerhead: Hansgrohe Raindance E420 Air 2
control, diverter, thermostat: Hansgrohe Axor Urquiola

This post was edited by noopd on Fri, Apr 5, 13 at 22:38


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Master Bath (Pretty Much) Complete

posted by: sochi on 09.02.2012 at 12:30 am in Bathrooms Forum

Thanks for the help and inspiration I received on all three forums - kitchen, bath and decor, Dianalo, Cloudbase, Palimpsest, Trailrunner, Martinca, Pharaoh. les917 and so many others.

I screwed up and accidentally told my contractor to tile the back shower wall, directly across from the shower head. I had wanted to put the mirror across the whole wall, as per one of my inspiration pictures. Argh. So I had to change out the mirror as well as the sconces we had originally chosen (the Artemide Logico that Pal had suggested). Still, I'm pretty happy with our overall result.

The bathroom is tiny, only 80" x 88". I opted to forego any storage under the vanity top in order to open up the space. The only storage in the bathroom is the built-in niche cabinet above the toilet, but we have a very large linen closet directly across the hall from the bathroom door, only two steps away, so storage wasn't really necessary. The bathroom had an existing sky light, but we added a solar tube as well for the plants. Wow, it brings in far, far more light than the sky light, I'm really impressed with it. For a room with no windows, it is very, very bright.

Floor tiles: Cement Nickel by Antica
Wall tiles: Yakarta Blanco from Porcelanosa
Shower heads: Hansgrohe
Toilet: Toto (we reused the existing toilet)
Sink: Kohler
Faucet: Cifial
Vanity: live edge walnut
Sconces: Sonneman Teardrop
Shower Threshold: Caesarstone Raven
Wood floor in shower: Ipe decking (special shout out to cloudbase for all the advice on this, thanks!)
Picture above toilet: A photo taken by DH. This is a frame we had, it doesn't quite work (not rustic enough, nor big enough I think), so I'm still searching for the perfect frame. The medicine cabinet is behind this)

Here is one of my inspiration pictures:

Old bathroom:

New tiny master bath (it is tough to take pictures of such a small space, I think it looks better in person):


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RE: Is 13x39 tile too big for a small shower stall? (Follow-Up #11)

posted by: babka on 03.25.2013 at 01:33 pm in Bathrooms Forum

Sorry I wasn't clear on the grout lines. I meant to say one Vertical line. A picture is worth a thousand words, and I cut and pasted these from, where you can see many bathrooms with large tiles stacked. Just select bathrooms then contemporary and sit back.

I don't have the name of the tile we selected, but it is very much like (if not the same ) as pictured in the light grey photo.


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RE: Finished Bathroom Reveal Thread (Follow-Up #52)

posted by: annkathryn on 03.30.2013 at 01:12 pm in Bathrooms Forum

Converted a half bath into a small full bath with curbless shower and wall-mounted toilet.

Floor tile is Natif Ambra, tile behind the toilet is Tokyo Wenge, wall tile in the shower is Yakarta Wenge, all from Porcelanosa.

Ronbow vanity
Toto wall-mounted toilet
Moen toilet paper grab bar
Whitner Angled Grab Bar With Basket from Signature Hardware
Light fixture from Bellacor
Quartz counter
The mirror is one we had that fit the space.
Medicine cabinet was existing

From Downstairs Bath

From Downstairs Bath

From Downstairs Bath

Here is a link that might be useful: Small bath details


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RE: Finished Bathroom Reveal Thread (Follow-Up #41)

posted by: sochi on 03.25.2013 at 12:40 am in Bathrooms Forum

Gorgeous bathrooms everyone, what a wonderful thread. Here is my small interior master bathroom. Renovation was completed about 10 months ago.

Floor tiles: Cement Nickel by Antica
Wall tiles: Yakarta Blanco from Porcelanosa
Shower heads: Hansgrohe
Toilet: Toto (we reused the existing toilet)
Sink: Kohler
Faucet: Cifial
Vanity: live edge walnut
Sconces: Sonneman Teardrop
Shower Threshold: Caesarstone Raven
Wood floor in shower: Ipe decking






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RE: backsplash recommendations with raven caesarstone?? (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: theanimala on 02.25.2012 at 08:16 pm in Kitchens Forum

We have Caesarstone Raven, and we did a simple white glass backsplash. Sounds like you are looking for something with more color / texture. What's nice about Raven is it's very neutral so you should be able to blend it with practically anything in my opinion.



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RE: Paint All Cabinets White or Put Color on Base? (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: boxerpups on 04.29.2012 at 01:48 pm in Kitchens Forum

I looooooooooooooovvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeee
a lower cab with a darker color and even more now that
I have seen your floor and granite choices.

Here are a few kitchens that make me think of your





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RE: Show me your cabinet knobs and pulls!! (Follow-Up #21)

posted by: theanimala on 08.15.2012 at 07:23 pm in Kitchens Forum

Don't have a better/closer picture unfortunately. These are the Princetonian from Top Knobs, all placed horizontally.



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Help 'Color In' My Kitchen- Yellow, Marble, Walnut, & White!!

posted by: 2LittleFishies on 07.22.2012 at 09:10 pm in Kitchens Forum

Hi All!
Get out your crayons! : )
It's time to start coloring in my kitchen and dining room. I'm using yellow lowers with marble counters, white uppers, white island with walnut butcher block.

Here's my inspiration........again.........


Here's my colors:

in sun

in shade

Imperial Danby Marble
Imperial Danby

Walnut butcher block

chrome pull

lights (with my own bird fabric)

with this fabric and backsplash


Maybe a valance like this over window
this is glamorous1

With a bunch of accessories like these:



Overall layout
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Window Wall
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Dining Area (Desk/Organizational, Banquette, Bar (no sink) 12'x16'

*** I was thinking walnut lowers with white uppers but being there are doors on the desk area & it looks like one piece maybe just all white cabinetry with walnut countertops and make the banquette bench walnut (or white)? What are your thoughts???

kitchen72212 4

***OK, here's my rendition. I thought yellow lowers in kitchen and anywhere that goes "up" carry the yellow up. What do you think? Where would YOU do the yellow/white? I will be putting yellow pieces on the open cabinetry and in the glass cabs to bring the yellow UP so I don't think I want to paint yellow being I'm putting yellow items on the shelves.
(Or I could just do yellow backs in the 2 glass cabs surrounding the hood.)
For the stacked cabs I'm wondering if I should put yellow in the backs of the glass cabs way at the top and put white accent pieces in there?
Oh I guess the yellow would also go on the area between baking and double ovens. Same for fridge side?


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SunnyAlberta's Finished Kitchen

posted by: SunnyAlberta on 07.25.2012 at 10:42 pm in Kitchens Forum

It has been a long road to finally get the end of building our home and designing the kitchen. I couldn't happier the way everything turned out. You will be happy to know that I have fallen in love with my creamy dreamy cabinets. I wouldn't not trade them in now. Thank you all who helped me a long the way. I couldn't have done with out all your advice. The only thing is not done is two of my pendant lights need a part each but it my might be 3 weeks till then so I decided to share my excitement now. Also, sorry about the picture quality. I only have my iphone as I can't find the computer cords.

Cabinets: Columbia Cabinets French White Permitter with Slate Island
Countertops: Ceasarstone Concrete Permitter and Nougat Island
Backsplash: Polished Venatino Marble Random Strips with Platinum Grout
Hood Fan: Kitchenaid with 660cfm blower
Double Ovens: Kitchenaid Convention
Dishwasher: Kitchenaid
36" Cooktop: Kitchenaid
Fridge: 36" All refrigerator Subzero
Freezer: Standup Fridrigaire Pro Series
Sink: 36" Kohler Smart Divide Vault Sink
Tap: Delta Addison
Floors: 8" Hickory Wide Plank
Pendants: DVI Lighting Essex Collection






Pantry (We just started moving in)

Freezer in pantry opposite of shelves



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My just-about-finished Super White kitchen **pics**

posted by: dragonfly08 on 03.28.2012 at 02:21 pm in Kitchens Forum

Our 10wk-long kitchen renovation that began on Jan 2nd finally came to an end 2 weeks ago. Moving into the kitchen has been a slow but fun process and we are enjoying every minute we spend in it. We are still missing some key items, an appliance garage (currently being made at the cabinet-maker's), microwave, furniture... but gradually, we are making this place the heart of our home.

House is a cozy colonial situated in central NY built in the 1980s that came with a magnificent piece of property. The inside, however, needed (and still needs) much update. We ripped out all the (irregular) flooring on the first floor and had them replaced. Structural changes took place in the mudroom/garage-entry area as well as the wall between kitchen and dining room (widened).

Prior to renovations, I had ZERO experience with reno of any sort, let alone in design. I stumbled upon GW and my world changed! You have all been fantastic and an invaluable source of information and support. I direct all my renovating friends here now! Your finished kitchens have all been sources of inspiration for me and I have most definitely borrowed some of your ideas (built-in paper towel holder, motion detector light switch in pantry, stone window sill...).

Lastly, this is my dream kitchen in the home we hope to raise our family in. White kitchens are fairly uncommon around these parts and so far, that is one main feature people are taken by when they first walk into our kitchen. I hope you all enjoy the photos!

Cabinets: Custom-made by Concepts in Wood (Syracuse, NY), Shaker-style doors, painted BM Chantilly Lace
Counters: Super white quartzite and titanium soapstone
Main Sink: Shaws Original Sink by Rohl - 30"
Main Faucet: Single Side Lever Country Kitchen Faucet with extended spout and sidespray by Rohl
Bar sink: inexpensive stainless sink from Ebay
Bar Faucet: EcoPure filter faucet (runs water from an RO system)
Range: 36" Bluestar with griddle
Hood: Vent-a-hood
Dishwasher: Kitchenaid
Refrigerator: old Kitchenaid that came with house (plan to replace in a year or 2)
Island pendants: Restored vintage hologen industrial pendants with original Heisey glass
Hardware: Highland Ridge by Amerock in 4" and 6"
Backsplash: Bellevue 3x6 ceramic tiles in Glacier by Best Tile


Before (view into dining room):

Before (view into garage entry):

Before (pantry with crazy-deep shelving):

Before (view into family room):










Coffee/Wine bar:

Titanium Soapstone:

View from Mudroom:


Microwave will sit on counter atop drawers:

Mudroom (closet on opposite wall):

I have to include this photo of our backsplash in the midst of being grouted, taken while my GC was at lunch. Amazing what a difference grout makes!

Lastly, a fun shot of my girls having fun with bubble wrap and packing paper one evening when I was trying to move all my junk back in:


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Finished (another) white Kitchen - pics

posted by: emy315 on 03.22.2012 at 07:58 am in Kitchens Forum

I am not a frequent poster, but I learned so much form this site. Thanks to you all of you. Here is the end result:


Cabinets : Omega (mix between dynasty and custom) (island stain - truffle)
Range : 48 Wolf AG
Countertops: Kashmire White Granite
Fridge: 48 Subzero
Dishwasher : Kitchen Aid
Micro: 27' Monogram advantium
Floor: Porcelain tile (of hand I don't remember the name)
Hood: Rangcraft








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Kitchen finished! White cabs, quartzite, leathered black. Whew!

posted by: babs711 on 07.14.2012 at 12:25 am in Kitchens Forum

We moved into our new build about three weeks ago. While I say the kitchen (and house) are complete, some things are missing that need to be done like counter stools that aren't here yet, a window seat cushion, upholstered chairs at the table that will be ordered, BLADES for the living room ceiling fan that aren't in yet. I've hardly hung a thing on the walls and am working on window treatments now. You get the picture! But we're in! And the months of planning and stewing are over! So here are some pics of the kitchen/dining/living room. I'm sure I'll have updates as I go.

Cabinets: Eudora Frameless
Island countertop: White Macaubus Quartzite
Perimeter countertop: Leathered Absolute Black Granite
Sink: Kohler Riverby Cast Iron
Faucet: Moen Woodmere in Stainless
Hardware on solid doors/drawers: Amerock Highland Ridge in polished nickel
Glass knobs and Bin Pulls in polished nickel: Van Dyke's
Range & Dishwasher: Thermador
Refrigerator: Kitchenaid Pro
Refrigerator Drawers: Electrolux
Sharp Microwave Drawer

Close up of the tile. It's hard to get an accurate color since it's so glossy. It's more blue/green than portrayed in pics:

I was standing on a chair when I took this. I feel like it makes the dining table look like toy furniture! Ha!

Behold...the unfinished bar and the fan with no blades. We live in the deep judging the fan! Behind those closed doors lies my DH's very unfinished man cave.

And you'd know that the day after I took these, my new sofa cushion inserts came in. It's all fluffy and new looking again. Oh well!

The Pantry is actually the same color as the entry you see right past the range wall in the kitchen (BM Gray Wisp). But I didn't use a flash so it looks funky here:


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