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RE: Where to start frame for counter height window? (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: reveriereptile on 03.09.2014 at 09:43 am in Kitchens Forum

We plan on using a stock window and our cabinets will be made by the Amish however we want them. They can adjust the height of the cabinets for us.

I don't mind if the window is set a little higher than the cabinet where the sill rests on it. I just don't want it like most average windows that I see that sit about 6-12" up from the counter. I want as much light in and view as possible.


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RE: Trash and recycling under the sink? Will it fit? Will I hate (Follow-Up #14)

posted by: Angie_DIY on 06.19.2012 at 12:10 am in Kitchens Forum

We have always had the trash under the sink; the recycling lived in another room. For the reno, I was planning to use a separate 18" cab for a recycling pullout, and keep the trash under the sink; to make enough room for the 18 cab, however, I had to go down to a 27" sink cab. GW posters convinced me that a better use of space would be to use a 36" sink cab, and put both trash and recycling under that cab. To that end, I got a corner drain. The trash lives in front of the GD, and the recycling pull out will (eventually) go in the open space on the left.

As far as getting nudged while at the sink, well, that happens to us, too. Rather than get annoyed, however, we have a saying: "Quit your b1tchin', it's the law of the kitchen!"


visual of stuff to the side...
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RE: Show me your Amerock! Please! (Follow-Up #10)

posted by: cjc123 on 10.24.2011 at 05:53 pm in Kitchens Forum

Amerok Highland Ridge in dark oiled bronze

From Kitchen before and after


I think I remember this kitchen was framless on bottom, inset on top
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Putting the shelves and susans into the finished cab (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: Bellsmom on 09.16.2012 at 09:48 am in Kitchens Forum

Putting the shelves in was a minor logical problem at first. Then it was just a matter of muscle.
The open area of the door is about 39''.
The shelves are about 26'' from side to side, therefore needing 28'' or so of clearance to go in and angle down to flat.
The susans are 24'' in diameter.
Everything fits if it is done in the right order.

1. Brooks (budding contractor and muscular enabler) attached the first susan to the bottom of the cabinet.
2. Next he put the shelves in one by one, laying them on top of the first susan.
3. Then he attached a susan to the top shelf in the stack and raised it temporarily to the very top of the cabinet,
4. The next susan was attached and raised as high as possible under the top one.
5. The last susan was attached and then the shelf was placed in its position above the bottom susan.
6. Next the susan above it (next to the top) was dropped to its position.
7. And finally, the top susan was lowered to its final position.

I could not have done this. The shelves plus susans were HEAVY and the opening meant putting them in at an awkward angle. Brooks was wonderful and patient when we had to adjust a shelf or two.

Not really hard, but not really easy, either.


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Retrofitting supersusans in upper cabs--a (long) success story

posted by: Bellsmom on 09.15.2012 at 09:52 pm in Kitchens Forum

I know I will try your patience with this long and picture laden post, but I really want to share this with you. It is the kind of thing I have found here when I had a problem and could not imagine an answer as we remodeled. Maybe someone will find this useful. I hope so.

When we remodeled our kitchen about a year ago, I asked that the upper cabs be 15'' deep. Since I prep on the island and seldom on the perimeter under the cabs, and since I am fairly short (5' 2'') the deeper wall cabs cause no inconvenience, and they are GREAT for storage.

I knew at the time that I was creating a monster in the corner though. Here is the way the old corner looked. Pretty, but it was a storage nightmare. Items stored at the back were more than 2 feet behind the items in the front. Impossible to reach without emptying the whole shelf.

I knew I wanted susans there, but the cabinet makers simply were not comfortable modifying them as I wanted. And I knew that, unlike base cabinets, it WAS possible to add susans to wall cabinets after the cabs were installed. So I waited. I had thought I could do this myself, but found that lifting the shelf and susan into place was beyond my strength, so this summer, a young contractor and I tackled the job.

There were three shelves, but I knew that after I modified them, I wanted four. I found a source for 24'' round Rev-a-shelf susans at less than $40 each and ordered 4 of them. I painted the edge so it would match the dark cherry cabs. They looked like this:
I wasn't happy with the small bearing under them, nor with the wasted vertical space. Each susan with its 2'' rim, bearings, mounting plate, and the shelf below it took 3'' of vertical space--so four of them would eat up 12'' in my 40'' cabinet! So we started cutting and replacing. We cut off one inch from the tops of the rim and a slice of the front edge to make a D-shaped instead of a round susan. We added a new, straight edge across the cut. (I was unable to find 24'' D-shaped susans anywhere. I had played with the idea of making the whole thing, but at less than $40 each, this seemed the better way.) Here are the cut off tops and the bearings and original crude turn table which we replaced or eliminated:

And here is a chopped and sectioned susan in position on the new shelf which we made to better use the vertical height provided by the more efficient bearings and the cut-down rim:

I know this is long, but I want to share what I can store on two different shelves in this corner susan. Bear with me.
Here is the front of the bottom shelf.
Storage is planned so that multiple identical items are arranged in front to back rows. Everything is accessible from the front. Here is the same shelf rotated about 45 degrees:
And rotated another 45 degrees or more:
All of the items on this shelf are used almost daily.

And one more shelf, This is the second one.
Front of shelf (I love teapots!)

Rotated about 1/3 of the way:

And rotated again:

Those big nested mixing bowls were space gobblers on any shelf or in any drawer before. I am not sure they would even fit in 12'' deep cabs. They are perfect here. Easy to reach and remove.

I plan to use the two upper shelves for ''dead'' or seasonal storage because I can reach them only with a ladder.

Here is a flash photo of the way the corner looks now. Forgive the ugly shadows the dimpled glass casts under a photo flash.

In summary: If you have limited storage space and every inch counts, consider 15'' deep uppers. If you do 15'' deep uppers, consider susans on the shelves. I strongly recommend retrofitting commercial susans or, better yet, having your cabinet maker custom make them to use every possible inch of vertical and horizontal space.

I like the new easy reach corner upper shelves a lot, but this holds SO much more that I would not change even if I could.

As a final image, I am going to post the bearings we used. I found them on Amazon. The shelves just coast with a slight spin. Brooks, my friend and budding contractor, was astonished at the difference they made:

I have had an immense amount of fun with this project. And playing with organizing the storage has only begun. Next stop is toe kick drawers!!

Thanks for looking. And thank you, GWers, for teaching me that almost anything I can imagine is possible--and then helping me imagine it!



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RE: No cabinets over top of fridge (Follow-Up #13)

posted by: annkh on 02.21.2014 at 03:03 pm in Kitchens Forum

My cabinet maker built full-depth pullouts above the fridge. On one side I have cereal; on the other napkins, paper towels, and other lightweight (but bulky) stuff. DH is 6'4" - he can reach everything. I can reach what's in the front, and my stool is handy for everything else.

I love this cabinet!
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RE: Why Do People Put Outlets in the Backsplash? (Follow-Up #65)

posted by: Muffett on 02.01.2014 at 11:22 pm in Kitchens Forum

Thanks to GW my outlets went low and horizontal.


low, horizontal outlets
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RE: Why Do People Put Outlets in the Backsplash? (Follow-Up #31)

posted by: AnnaC54 on 11.15.2012 at 08:34 pm in Kitchens Forum

Well, our "electrician" is my DH, and our Reno was almost all DIY. By the time we got to the backsplash, he was physically and mentally fried. We decided that the extra wiring, drywall repair, etc required to move 11 outlets was not worth it. Instead he turned them horizontal and tweaked them just a little so they fall within a course of tile. The covers are fairly unobtrusive, and the outlets are easy to reach. We're happy with the result.



simple, varied subways...
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Oops! picture didn't appear... (Follow-Up #15)

posted by: viva99 on 03.17.2011 at 11:31 am in Kitchens Forum

Sorry this is so big.



Not useful to me -- but waaay cool!
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White Kitchen Reveal (long post with photos)

posted by: lovetogarden_oak on 09.27.2013 at 04:53 am in Kitchens Forum

Dear GW-ers,

It took us about 9 months (yup!) to complete our kitchen reno. We acted as our own GC and hired the pros to do most carpentry work, all electrical, all plumbing, flooring, backsplash and countertop.

We have benefitted immensely from the extra eyes on GW looking over our layout plan before we purchased our cabinetry. We are so grateful for the detailed discussions of pretty much anything kitchen-reno related (we read all buehl's post multiple times!) We love love love the inspiring "after" photos posted by the GW community. You have been a constant resource to us.

Thank you so much to everyone who had offered ideas, inisghts, suggestions, and gentle words of encouragement during our reno! You are really awesome!

To help reduce cost, we did quite a bit of work ourselves, though in hindsight, we probably should just hire the pro to do them as it took us soooo long to finish the work as we didn't have any prior experience. With the help of DD and our carpenter, we installed a new Marvin Integrity bay window to replace the aluminum garden window in the old kitchen. We naively took the job of tapping, mudding and sanding the newly sheetrocked walls and ceiling during the Christmas holiday (it looked so easy on youtube, but it took us weeks to finish the job!) We also installed the cabinets including the crown moulding, scribes and hardware ourselves. DH did baseboard installation while I painted the window trims and the built-in china cabinet. There was definitely sweat-equity involved here.

Our carpenter built a custom pantry with IKEA Rationell pull-out drawers to replace the broom closet. It is one of my favorite features in our new kitchen!

So, without further ado, here is the list of materials, plus our before, during and after photos. I will post more detailed photos in the FKB, including the inside of our cabinets, once I figured out how to do that. :)

Cabinetry: InnerMost (from HD) - La Porte (their shaker style) in Divinity Classic finish. The KD is a superstar (we love Sherry)! She was so patient with me as I kept changing the layout for the millionth times. The InnerMost Rep is also amazing! We are very happy customers!
Pulls: Asbury in polished chrome (from Restoration Hardware)
Knobs: 1 1/4" glass knobs with polished nickel base (from RH as well)
Countertop: Calacatta Oro 2cm marble slab (it took forever to find one that we love, but we finally did!) and prefab white quartz for the china cab (don't know the name of it... We saw the remnant piece on our way out from the fabricator's warehouse.)
Backsplash: 1"x6" white Daltile subway tiles (from HD)
Sink: 28" wide Julien 025 806 J18 (to fit our 33" sink base) plus grid
Faucet: Grohe Concetto Dual Spray Pull Down 32665 in Polished Chrome
Soap dispenser: Blanco Alta Soap / Lotion Dispenser 440046 in Polished Chrome
Garbage disposal: Whirlpool GC 5000 3/4 hp (from IKEA)
Air gap: Blanco 44036 in Polished Chrome
Air switch: Enviropure ENVAS1CH in Polished Chrome
Stove: 30" GE monogram gas stove ZGP30NRSS
Hood: 36"W, 1000cfm KOBE CH0036SQB-1 (seems to work well enough with our GE monogram stove)
Duct cover: 12" H and 36" W, KOBE CH0036DC12 308 to match the hood
Refrigerator: 36" counter-depth french door Kitchen Aid KFCP22EXMP
DW: Miele G5575SCSF
Microwave: 0.8 cu ft Panasonic NN-SD372S perfect for our family of three! (From
Flooring: site finished Santos Mahogany (2 coats of Traffic Satin, and 1 coat Traffic semi gloss which darkened the *eek!* pinkish floor to a beautiful reddish brown we now love.)
Lighting: canned LED lights on dimmer for ceiling, and puck LED light for under cabinet lighting, IKEA's Inreda LED lights (great value!), and RH school house light with oil rubbed bronze finish for the nook
Wall color: a custom color, somewhere between BM Wickham Gray and Grey Cashmere.
Trim color: BM match of HD Behr Pot Of Cream.

The before:

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The built-in china cabinet before it was painted and had its formica countertop replaced with prefab quartz
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The during:
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The after:
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A special shout out to palimpsest for his input on the fridge placement (thank you!):
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The custom pantry with IKEA pull-out drawers:
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Appliance garage:
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Gas shut-off hidden in toe-kick area:
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DH did such a beautiful job with the scribing (especially since he has never done any finishing carpentry before!)
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GW-inspired details...

Grid in sink:
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Under sink trash-system with IKEA pull-out drawer:
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Oil/Vinegar pull-out rack:
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Spice drawer:
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That's all I can think of for now.

Thank you so much, GW-ers! We LOVE our new kitchen!

This post was edited by lovetogarden_oak on Sun, Sep 29, 13 at 0:53


appliance garage "hole"
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Finished: thynes' Budget Beach House Kitchen

posted by: thynes on 10.08.2013 at 10:37 pm in Kitchens Forum

Hey folks, it's been awhile since posting on here. I know how much I love viewing kitchen reveals, so I thought I'd share our latest with you.

This summer we completed a kitchen renovation at our small vacation home, on the coast of Newfoundland. Not an extensive or elaborate renovation by GW standards, but quite a considerable facelift. And interesting timing, because I really enjoyed the Beach House 'design around this' thread that was very active while we were completing the work. The thread was a little too late to influence our design choices, but it was incredibly interesting to follow everyone's vision of what a seaside kitchen should be.

A little background: the house is fairly new (less than 10 years old), but was built to imitate a house that had stood on the property and had remained in the owners' family for over 200 years. It is built in the traditional "saltbox" style common in rural Newfoundland and, while new, it retains some components of the original dwelling (e.g. the bannisters, railings, and posts were salvaged and reused). We bought the property from the original owners a couple of years ago, and felt that a real opportunity to create a bright, seaside cottage feeling had been missed in the build. So we've been steadily working on improving the property ever since.

This kitchen project is similar to our last in that all design concepts, materials, etc were discussed, researched, and chosen by my wife and I. But also substantially different than our last (that reveal is linked below), in that we committed to keeping the budget low and resisting the urge to go 'high end' or perform structural modifications on a home where we (sadly) spend only a few weekends a year. So unlike our last kitchen project, this one saw us keep the same footprint, reuse the existing (and rather crude) face frame cabinets, hardware, and sink/faucet, install laminate countertops instead of solid surface, buy entry level appliances and light fixtures at clearance prices, and perform some DIY work (though don't get me wrong, this was not a DIY project... our contractor completed most of the work). We would have loved to install a wall of windows to maximize the ocean view, but the only modification we performed was in widening the opening from the porch to the kitchen, bringing an unused nook in the porch into play and allowing conversion into a beverage/MW center (and freeing up valuable counter space). The only splurge was wood-look porcelain floor tile, which we chose for aesthetic reasons as well as durability.

Our project considerations were simple: make the space as functional and aesthetically pleasing (to us..!) as possible at minimal cost. From the beginning, we knew two things: first, we wanted blue cabinets and white bead board and second, the kitchen table had to be sanded, painted, and reused (had been hand-built many years ago by my wife's father); everything else came together as our thought process evolved. The project, along with an interior repaint of the entire house and re-trim of the main floor, was completed in three weeks with zero surprises or hiccups.

We're very pleased with the result. Hope you enjoy!


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DIY (and our little helper..!):

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Thanks for viewing!

Here is a link that might be useful: thynes' Finished Kitchen


Cabinet for microwave? do I want it on the end of the island? or forgo the dbl oven?
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White/white/white kitchen refresh FINISHED

posted by: wi-sailorgirl on 06.04.2013 at 11:39 am in Kitchens Forum

Hopefully the subject warned you that if you're not a fan of white kitchens, you definitely will not like this one. Fortunately, I am (and have been as long as I can remember).

This was more of a refresh than a reno. The cabinets, counters, sink and backsplash are all new. The floors and all appliances are not (we've replaced them all slowly over the last 11 years of owning this house). Although we only changed a few things in the kitchen in this latest go-around, I don't think there's anything left save for the basic layout that is the same as it was when we bought the house. So maybe this was really an 11 year reno!

Anyway ... photos (and lots of them). Details at the end.

Before (about three years ago). I know, it's not really bad looking, but the cabinets were in rough shape and I hated the dust-collector shelf on top of them.
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The inspiration picture (from Coastal Living magazine):
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Walnut trim on the mantel hood (thanks to Katieob for the inspiration). The panel above the mantel flips open for additional storage around the vent.

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The hutch and upper cabinets flanking the sink also have glass sides and I'm so happy we did that. It makes it feel so much airier. Dimmable LED lighting in the cabinets. The lighting looks a bit sickly green in some of these photos but it's actually a slightly cooler white (we didn't want to go too warm with the lights).

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When we bought the house, a stackable washer and dryer were walled in next to the fridge. We move the laundry several years ago and used the area as a pantry but the half wall on one side sort of stuck out into the space. We removed that and did a built-in pantry around the fridge. The difference in depth was probably less than a foot but having that protrusion into the room gone makes a huge difference in a small kitchen.

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Pantry area (we weren't planning to light it but we had extra LED strip lights left so we stuck some in there. Love the area for the roll-out dog food and step stool and of course I love having my microwave in there where we're had it for several years).

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Vertical storage over the fridge. Should have done more of this.
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Probably my favorite thing in the entire kitchen (other than the backsplash). I love not having stuff on my counters.
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A shallow drawer pulls out for cutting boards and oven mitts.
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By the dishwasher we need a spacer so the hutch would match up with the cabinet above but I told our cabinet guy to find some kind of storage to stick in there. I think it's really meant for spices but I obviously don't need spices there so we use it for various dog potions and pills and the big bottle of Advil.

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A few detail shots:

We planned the double molding around cabinetry as a design element but it ended up really saving us when it came to the molding because our ceiling is incredibly out of level. We took up the difference in that second piece of molding and you can't even tell now that the room is horribly crooked.

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The glass knobs. Love them SO much.
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Close up of the backsplash (with my little walnut tray).
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And lastly, the other side of the kitchen, which is where a lot of the color comes into the room. I painted the door black on a whim this winter and love it. The barn light over the sink was originally white but I spray-painted it black after the cabinets went in because I thought it would be good to pull the black over to that side of the room. This is our back door so we walk straight into the kitchen, so it's not just a functional space but a major thoroughfare as well.

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I took off all the window treatments (nice lined bamboo roman shades) to paint but I kind of like it with them off. I could, however, stain them a walnut color to match the other accents in the room. So I'd love to hear opinions on whether you think they should go back up.

Cabinets: Custom cabinets made by a local cabinet maker (he's done other things in our house too and always does a great job). Painted (several times, but let's not talk about that) Benjamin Moore Cloud White

Countertops: Caesarstone Eggshell (aka Osprey if you're outside the U.S.) Island is walnut butcher block, I think from Blockhead Blocktops in Michigan.

Hardware: Emtek Georgetown glass knobs (1.25") and Restoration Hardware Aubrey pulls in polished nickel (and yes, we had the problem with the screws breaking off and replaced them all).

Cabinet glass: Bendheim glass, mouth-blown clear soft seeded (a splurge but I'm so happy we did it). I need to take a better picture of the glass so you can see it to appreciate it.

Backsplash: 1-inch mother of pearl mosiac, purchased through Key West Tile (the source listed in the article I used as inspiration), but I've seen the same or very similar tile online through Glass Tile Mosiacs. Polyblend grout in Bright White.

Vent hood: Kobe 36-inch insert. We have an existing downdraft but when we replaced our range several years ago we had two ranges to choose from that would work with that venting situation, so we installed the overhead vent now so when it comes time for a new range (hopefully many years from now) we aren't limited in our selection. Plus, it works MUCH better than the downdraft (both vent outside).

Appliances: All existing Jenn-Air

Paint colors: Anything white is Cloud White. Walls are Benjamin Moore Edgecomb Gray (previously they were Revere Pewter which is still a favorite color but I felt it was too dark with the tile).

- Large Thomas O'Brien Hicks pendant in polished nickel over the island. Even though this like is rather ubiquitous, I couldn't help myself. I still love it even if it's everywhere. It is polarizing though: people either love it or hate it.
- Barn Light Electric sconce over sink. It was white for several years but I spray-painted it black
- Roost glass cylinder lights over kitchen table.
-UCLs and in-cabinet lighting is LED strip lighting purchased locally. Sorry, I don't know the brand.

Sink: 32-inch single-bowl Kraus stainless steel

Faucet: Hansgrohe Talis S (DO NOT buy this from Home Perfect. I had a horrible experience, ended up filing with the credit card company and just buying the faucet for $10 more through Amazon.)

Let me know if I've forgotten anything. Special thanks to the helpful folks here, particularly the friendly voices on the Small Houses board as well as some of the experts here. It's no secret that I drew a lot of inspiration from many of your kitchens including Breezygirl, Katieob and Beekeeperswife.

This post was edited by wi-sailorgirl on Tue, Jun 4, 13 at 11:52


dark trim on hood mantle
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RE: recent kitchen viewing - do you remember it? (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: badgergal on 12.09.2012 at 07:58 pm in Kitchens Forum

Is this the one? It is motherof3sons


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RE: custom booth dimensions (Follow-Up #5)

posted by: corgimum on 10.05.2012 at 02:10 pm in Kitchens Forum

Maybe this drawing will help you out.


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RE: WWFD (Francoise) (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: francoise47 on 06.27.2012 at 08:57 am in Kitchens Forum

Hi BlackChamois,

I was so smitten by your 2 x 4 Calacatta marble backsplash idea in your recent post (link below) that I'd be loath to make any suggestions that would send you in another direction.

I had actually looked at a very similar backsplash to your bevelled Calacatta last summer before I picked a 2 x 4 inch white ceramic tile backsplash instead. I loved it. The bevel provides a slightly more contemporary/update to subway tile (the different size format also feels fresh compared to the standard 3 x 6) which should work well with your Caesarstone/quartz.

Like you, I was torn between many different "looks" for the kitchen and also couldn't decide between gray and white cabinets.

This Michael Smith kitchen (House Beautiful June 2007) was one of my inspirations kitchens. I liked the soft contrast between the painted cabinets, Lagos Azul counters, and handmade bejmat backsplash tiles. I even got samples of Lagos Azul and soon realized that it was the most impractical countertop known to man (it itched and scratched immediately). I think I was so smitten by your Caesarstone Wild Rice sample picture because it reminded me of the soft gray brown colors in Lagos Azul. I like my honed black granite counters. And they are oh-so practical. But they don't have the soft beauty of the Lagos Azul.


In the end I don't think my actual kitchen achieved the soft "English" look of the Michael Smith kitchen (other aesthetic impulses pulled me in other directions). I haven't done the grand reveal on GW yet because I haven't yet figured out how to take good inside pictures of the kitchen. But I promise to post a reveal soon.

For now here are a few shots:

The breakfast banquette area (still waiting for a back cushion):


Here is a link that might be useful: BlackChamois's post on backsplashes


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RE: Tell me about your runnels! love or hate? (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: rmkitchen on 11.21.2011 at 04:29 pm in Kitchens Forum

We have them in our (marble) counter.

runnels and tea area

We also have a dishdrain (a large, flat surface sloping down toward the sink). Our everpresent dishrack sits on the dishdrain. (I emptied the dishrack just for this picture. And yes, we're Japanese hence the Japanese sink bucket!)
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We use the runnels (I call them petit runnels as we only have three and they aren't super-long) for draining produce. We knew that going in which is why we asked for shorter and fewer runnels and we were right! The runnels and dishdrain are super and zippo complaints chez nous about those (I can and do complain about other things!).

I think $300 for runnels is a s-t-e-a-l -- ours were more expensive (bc they are evidently uncommon 'round here). I would MUCH rather see efficient runnels in a counter than a towel or tray under a dishrack -- the runnels don't take function away from the counter (you can still put a chopping board atop them).


integrated drainboard/runnels
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RE: integrated drainboard in stone--pics? (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: rmkitchen on 04.24.2010 at 07:21 pm in Kitchens Forum

We have runnels on one side and a drainboard (slopes down toward the sink) on the other.

We use our runnels for draining produce or setting the colander. The drainboard always has the dishrack in it (and the dishrack always has stuff in it).

This is how we'd envisioned using both the runnels and the drainboard and for us they're perfect. Our kiddos are still in sippy cups / snacktraps, etc., and those things are always still wet when coming out of the dishwasher, so they go straight onto the dishrack. Being that the kiddos are little I'm also a short order cook (or so it feels), so there's always something being drained on the runnels (or so it feels).

The drainboard is, of course, super easy to wipe clean, and we love not having puddling water under the dishrack! The runnels are, of course, not as easy to clean but we're more of a live-and-let-live family, so I don't obsess about it. Weeeell ... we have marble slab countertops, and maybe a month ago I decided to poultice the runnels. Holy cow did they look sparkly white! So I immediately sealed them and then we were back to our slovenly ways. Whatever, life's too short to futz with all that. I'd rather eat a snow cone while pushing children in a swing.



It was two+ years ago and I do not recall exactly how much they cost. I do remember the drainboard was more than the runnels, but maybe for both they were like $700. ??? I remember the runnels were going to be a few hundred dollars (total), but the drainboard pushed it over. Ouch. The first fabricator with whom I wanted to work was going to charge $2,000 for the runnels alone because he'd have to purchase the bit to use to cut them and I (and I alone) was going to pay for it. The fabricator we used is a bigger outfit so they already had the bit. Truthfully, I don't really want to remember how much everything cost -- fuzzy memories can be a good thing!


integrated drainboard
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RE: Appliance garages? Pros and Cons (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: swhite10 on 03.07.2011 at 07:28 am in Kitchens Forum

I have two of them, although one is missing the pull out tray so it's not functional right now. I can't imagine my life without my coffee garage! LOVE it!! It's nice to have everything in one spot and I don't have to search for the filter or sweeteners, or worry about all of it cluttering up my counter tops. Here is what mine looks like:


tray in garage
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A twist on the white kitchen - not final but in the home stretch!

posted by: alabamamommy on 02.10.2011 at 01:05 am in Kitchens Forum

Listen up you wonderful, helpful, creative and generous souls. This woman's spent the past 8 months lurking and learning and dreaming and editing and taking notes, and fretting and so on and so forth. But now I can't take it anymore. Even though the kitchen isn't done... they finally placed my island slab and I can't take it anymore. I have to share.

So are some snaps of our 90% finished kitchen. You won't see the wall with freedom columns without their doors, or the lunch station without it's backsplash, the pot filler, the appliance garage doors, the glass shelves to replace the wood ones currently or even any blasted hardware (shakes fists in the air still). But you'll get the general idea!

Without further ado - my island:

So - lemmie hear your cheers for the final mile...
"Don't lose your mind! Don't lose your mind! Don't lose your mind!"


dark trim
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RE: Filtered Water Faucet (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: cjc123 on 11.16.2011 at 09:18 am in Kitchens Forum

We installed the Aquapure 200 under the sink. It has a dedicated cold water faucet and is hooked up to our fridge (don't have to buy those very expensive fridge filters - just leave bypass plug in) We change the filter twice a year. I think it was in the $100 range PS: LOVE IT!!
From Kitchen remodel (still not done)


filtered water at sink... goes to fridge, therefore no filters at fridge
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I Finished my White Zen Kitchen!

posted by: celineike on 07.10.2011 at 05:17 pm in Kitchens Forum

Ahhhh, it's good to be done.
What fun this whole process has been!
Here's the low down.

We had a slab leak in February. The entire downstairs had wood floors and water had been leaking into them for weeks/months? we don't know. But long enough that the walls and cabinets were wet as well. So they gutted and we got to work.
Our old kitchen was a dark place for me. We have north facing window and the light was always dim. We also had light wood cabinets and dark greenish black granite (Uba Tuba?) on the counters, island and backsplash!!!! ugh! what a light sucker that was!

I had always known that if we changed the kitchen it would be to white. I know people say timeless doesn't exist in kitchens... but every decade I can think of has had white as an option. So I never thought of this a trendy thing. -til i got here, lol.
Anyway, White cabs and grey counters were the only things I had in mind for sure. The rest fell into place the more I looked around and if you see a part of your kitchen in here... THANK YOU!!!! I stole SO many details from GWer's.

Apparently we have a small kitchen,lol... didn't think so til i got here either, it's 13'x12'

Counters.... Qortstone perimeters in Cemento
Island & Bar is Statuary Marble
Butcher Block on Island.... oiled Dark Walnut End-Grain 18"x38"
Cabinets .... shaker, inset, framed
Paint on Cabs ...BM Cloud White
Paint on Walls ... BM Smokey Taupe
Hardware is mostly RH & Rejuvenation for the Latches (way worth that investment!) All Polished Nickel
Island now measures 38"x 84"
walkways are 38" on sink side; 42" on oven side; and 36" on fridge side... all plenty wide, i was worried about pushing these measurements.
Bluestar RNB 36"
Proline 36" Hood
Sharp MW Drawer
Kenmore Elite French door Fridge
Fisher & Paykel Dish Drawer Washer
Sink.. Krauss 33" double Bowl Stainless
Main Faucet is Hansgrohe Pull Down PN

way before

and after...


Fridge wall, Appliance garage on right and coffee station on left

Island with BB and Rubbish/Recycling Bins/drawers - love these!

Bluestar tee hee

I'll post some more pics of fun details. Things i liked seeing from other's kitchens and ended up adding to mine.

At one point, I had chosen everything and had a huge set back of worry that the whole thing would be boring instead of calm and bright and peaceful. Thank you all for your encouragement and opinions on various choices and ideas. This is such great forum with wonderful people.
I love how my kitchen turned out!



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RE: pictures of counter MW on shelf in upper cab? (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: rhome410 on 11.02.2011 at 01:38 pm in Kitchens Forum

Speaking of outlets, we put our outlet in the cabinet above, so the cord or plug space wasn't an issue, and so we can unplug it before pulling it out, if we ever need to lift it down... No stopping with it held in the air to unplug. Our upper is also deeper for the big microwave we need in our house.



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RE: What I worried about needlessly and should have worried about (Follow-Up #12)

posted by: sally123 on 10.23.2011 at 03:30 am in Kitchens Forum

I have never posted a finished kitchen because its not really finished. My other excuse is that my daughter, the photographer, said she would take pictures for me but never has. All I have are phone pictures, but I have lots of them. If you click on this picture it should take you to my photobucket album.


similar kitchen
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RE: bread crumbs... and other things I don't BUY (Follow-Up #17)

posted by: calimama on 10.12.2011 at 06:59 pm in Kitchens Forum

htracey - I have a dehydrator my mom picked up for me at a garage sale. I know you can do them in the oven if your oven goes low enough. Either on this site or the cooking forum, someone posted a great wine soaked sun dried tomato technique. you can probably google it.

For the creamy based salad dressings, I usually just wing it and make a little at a time. I use a small (6 oz) mason jar and that usually makes enough for my family for a meal+.

for the base: 1 HEAPING T. of mayo, 1/4 c. buttermilk,
1 t. vinegar (I like red wine, but apple cider or white balsamic are also yummy) 1 clove garlic-minced or grated and 1/4 t. of worchestershire sauce, pinch of salt. Screw the lid on and shake well.

After that, if I am making ranch I will usually add various herbs from my garden,but always dill, a pinch of chopped basil and then whatever else looks good. Dry herbs work too. I like a little lime juice or zest too.

If I am making blue cheese, I always add lots of cracked pepper and crumble some blue cheese in. Chives are nice if you have em.

You can make all kinds of dressings, adding other things like parmesan cheese, mustard, etc. I never make a lot, so if I don't like it, I can always make more. Good luck!!


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RE: bread crumbs... and other things I don't BUY (Follow-Up #13)

posted by: aliris19 on 10.12.2011 at 01:52 pm in Kitchens Forum

Tracy -- best and easiest dressing is:

balsamic vinegar. (or in a pinch lemon juice. Just lemon juice).

From there, it's all gravy, so to speak.

There are various ways I dress it up.

For example, on the super-dry lettuce leaves, I grind salt and pepper and dump in to the palm of my hand some dried tarragon and dried basil. I rub those together just to increase the flavor as they fall on the leaves. Toss all together (it takes a little more work to thoroughly mix than you'd think), and then back to the cardinal step: balsamic vinegar. Just pour a little over the top. done.

Here's my all-time favorite variation, but it takes a little bit of work (which can be done well in advance and stored a very, very long time):

Grab a whole head of garlic and wrap it in tin foil. Pour in a little olive oil (maybe some rosemary leaves if you have some, or something else leafy and green and savory) to keep it from drying out. Next time your oven is on - slow heat is best - toss the thing in there for at least an hour, depending on freshness of course. [you might want to slit the top of each clove so the oil can get in; dont know if that's essential but if you have the time go ahead. I'm guessing you could potentially have an explosion if you didn't do that, but it's hard to imagine a clove that truly air-tight. I haven't done that experiment though, I've always slit them. This can be a little time-consuming and may be expendable].

Let the head of garlic cool and squeeze the cloves into a glass jar. You can mash them with the back of a fork if you like. They should be a pretty golden brown color and very soft.

This mash will keep in the fridge a long time.

When you need dressing, find a glass jar with a secure lid. Spoon some of the mash in and maybe some salt & pepper, then pour in some ... balsamic vinegar. Then shake the daylights out of it. It turns thick, thick and beautiful. And tangy and delicious. But it's just essentially balsamic vinegar. The only thing tastier than balsamic vinegar is: (balsamic vinegar + salt). :)

You can go on from there to taste. Try dry mustard powder. Try wet mustard if you'd rather. Etc. It doesn't really get any easier.

BTW, I used to have all the roasted garlic I wanted when invited to endless tiresome potlucks with very boring-palate people. I'd bring several heads of roasted garlic with bread -- you're supposed to squeeze the former on the latter. But no one would eat it and I'd be begged to take it home, which I happily did. Then proceeded as above. :) Its not as if this isn't supposed to be a real gourmand offering; not my fault they wouldn't bite, right? (I have been to potlucks with more gastronomically adventurous in which a whole dozen heads of garlic were scarfed in 45 minutes, so I wasn't really intending to stiff anyone).

I agree the bacon grease is toxic. But not necessarily in small quantities. The big problem is when we eat too much of it, any of it. I'm guessing the poster who switched to real butter and sugar is savoring the real flavor so much that she's eating less of it. Quantity is the real killer of diets/nutritional health. I think I'd extend that rule to include bacon grease, maybe. It's true though, that pretty much pushes the envelope of acceptability! In condiment-quantities, rarely, then maybe.... (I'm intrigued by the idea of using the fat for eggs. I actually have some bacon in my fridge at the moment, first time in at least 4 years. Maybe I'll try that....)


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RE: How do you store a LARGE collection of spices? (Follow-Up #70)

posted by: imrainey on 03.23.2008 at 02:31 pm in Kitchens Forum

Mine are divided into baking spices and cooking spices/herbs.

The baking stuff (just 8 jars plus some vanilla beans and extracts) goes in a 6"x8" lightweight plastic bin I can lift down from the cab over my baking area.

The cooking stuff is in a pullout next to the range that has smaller bins. The jars are arranged alphabetically. And each bin is labeled with the name of the first and last jar in it. The labels on the shelves can be read from my standing position at the range.

I keep salt and pepper mills, a kosher salt cellar and a crock with dried parsley on the hood directly over the cooktop 'cause they're in constant use.

Jars in their baskets on the pullout shelves.
Identifying them from a cooking vantage point.
Contents of one basket
Wolfie's got a new buddy.

Those little bins were CD storage I got on sale at Targets for under $4 each. They each hold 9 jars for potential storage for 54 jars plus the larger items.


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RE: How do you store a LARGE collection of spices? (Follow-Up #21)

posted by: many_hats on 02.11.2008 at 11:02 am in Kitchens Forum

I also use a drawer similar to some of the photos above but I have small metal containers with magetic bottoms. I slid a very thin piece of metal (from HD ~$11.00) under my Life Liner and the spices don't move (you can see the grey colour of it under the spices). The taller containers are from Lee Valley; they do not come with magnetic bottoms but I took some magnetic tape and cut pieces to fit the bottoms then glued them on. They all have glass lids so I can see quantities at a glance. The smaller ones have lids that twist to holes for shaking and a wide port for pouring.

The drawer is 24" wide, 21" deep; the face front is 6 1/4" high and the inside sides are 4 1/4" high. I have just under 40 spices stored so it's not a huge collection but I also have room for a 7 1/2" wide knife block and utensil storage as well so it could hold a lot more spices if I removed those.

spice drawer.


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RE: How do you store a LARGE collection of spices? (Follow-Up #14)

posted by: sweeby on 02.10.2008 at 05:30 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here's mine -- A CD box converted to a 40-spice test tube rack. I recently moved up to a larger size (54-tubes). Large bottles are on the top rack and oils and vinegars on the bottom.

Spice Pull-Out


spices and oils
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RE: How do you store a LARGE collection of spices? (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: loves2cook4six on 02.10.2008 at 01:50 pm in Kitchens Forum

I have mine stored the same way as lascatz's:

Mine are in a 18" wide by 30" deep draw next to the cooktop and under the baking area. I store all my spices and seasoning except for salt and pepper in this draw. I used 3 oz glass bottles ordered from and labeled them with my labeler.


drawer spices
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RE: Way cool Lee Valley organizers: way too much? (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: lowspark on 06.30.2011 at 03:06 pm in Kitchens Forum

I used the Lee Valley dividers and I'm very happy with the results. Learned about 'em here, by the way.

They were very easy to deal with. I used a rubber mallet to tap them into the wood. Didn't take a whole lot of effort. I bought the wood strips at Lowe's.

I didn't want to hammer the dividers directly into the drawers because I didn't want permanent holes in the wood. So I made a frame for each drawer and attached the dividers to that frame. The entire set up in each drawer is fully removable without leaving any permanent signs of ever having existed in the drawer.

Here are pix:


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Inside my drawers... :-) (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: analysisparalysis on 08.21.2011 at 04:27 pm in Kitchens Forum

Okay, here's the inside of the pantry - the top "half" is shelving, the bottom half, roll out shelves:
From New Folder

Soup drawer pulled out:

From New Folder

Cookware drawer (bottom drawer below cooktop):

From New Folder

Copper pots and pans (these are SUPER heavy!)in middle drawer below cooktop:

From New Folder

Utensil drawer immediately below cooktop:

From New Folder

Knife drawer to right of cooktop:

From New Folder

Cooking spices - pullout to right of cooktop:

From New Folder

Baking spices - pullout to left of cooktop (and nearest the baking center on the far left run of the long counter):

From New Folder

Dishware drawer, just to the left of the sink:

From New Folder

Garbage pullout - left side below apronfront sink:

From New Folder

Garbage pullout and cleaning supplies pullout (both below sink):

From New Folder

Cookie sheet storage above double wall ovens:

From New Folder

Today's artwork: :-)

From New Folder

Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to see! :-)


under sink trash pullout....
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RE: All cherry or white uppers/cherry below? (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: jessicaml on 06.29.2011 at 02:29 pm in Kitchens Forum

My first instinct was white or light backsplash and white counter, to tie in the uppers so they're not randomly floating, something like this:
Image and video hosting by TinyPic

But I also really like this pic posted earlier by boxerpups (again with the white backsplash/wall tying in the white uppers):
Image and video hosting by TinyPic


bottom pic. trying to find a way to have the dark cabs... yet a light kitchen.
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RE: Tray Divider Over Fridge (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: skoo on 03.19.2010 at 11:34 am in Kitchens Forum

This is what we did over the fridge:

We measured the height so that it would fit a half sheet pan on its side, which is the longest that we wanted to store in the dividers. The horizontal area on top is for full sheet pans and other large platters, etc.


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RE: Cabinet over Refrigerator--What goes in there? (Follow-Up #19)

posted by: zelmar on 06.03.2011 at 02:51 pm in Kitchens Forum

Tray storage and tv storage. We ordered the tracks for the dividers with our cabinets. They were full height and dh cut them down and put in the extra shelf after we were comfortable with what size items we wanted to store there.



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RE: Cabinet over Refrigerator--What goes in there? (Follow-Up #12)

posted by: buehl on 06.03.2011 at 01:58 pm in Kitchens Forum

Seasonal things, for the most part. In the winter, pitchers are stored in the back and my cookie canisters for Christmas cookies are stored in the front. In the spring/summer/fall, they're reversed.

Year-round, I also store vases & seldom-used water bottles in the back and in the very front napkin holders, hot pads for the table, and often-used water bottles.

The napkin holders (w/napkins) and hot pads are stored in it b/c the refrigerator is next to the DR and it's very easy to grab them when setting the table. One thing...we're a tall family. I'm the shortest at 5'10". So the front, at least, is easy for us to reach. I do have to get a chair for the very back, but it's only 3 or 4 times a year.

Tray storage...I understand your range has a bottom drawer. But, have you ever tried to store your cookie sheets, cooling racks, muffin tins, pizza pans, roasting pan (& accessories), etc. in vertical storage? It's so much easier to access them than in a bottom drawer under a range! We stored our cookie sheets and other flat items in that drawer location in our old kitchen and I'll never go back to that kind of tray storage! (Our pots & pans were all stored in the corner susan.)

Keep an open mind and think about might find something new that works better than what you've been doing. Yes, you're used to what you have...but be open to change (or at least to consider/try something new). I'm so glad I kitchen has so many "new" things and I love the vast majority of them! Not all things will necessarily work out, but at least give things a try. Photobucket

I did this over my ovens. You can do something similar over your refrigerator. (The bottom shelf holds platters & my griddle lengthwise front-to-back.)

Tray & Platter Storage, Cabinet Above the Ovens, 31


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RE: Cabinet over Refrigerator--What goes in there? (Follow-Up #10)

posted by: kompy on 06.03.2011 at 01:37 pm in Kitchens Forum

This is what I did in my last house. Loved it! I also did the 24" deep cabinet, but pulled forward.



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Finished Kitchen! Creamy French Classic

posted by: adh673 on 05.14.2011 at 02:35 pm in Kitchens Forum

I finally uploaded some pictures, they were taken on different days, some raining and shadowy but it's raining again today so these will do for now!

First of all, thank you SOO much to everyone on this site who was a huge help, inspiration and motivation. I very much appreciate the many thoughtful, creative people who gave me advice along the way.

I am sure I will forget some details so feel free to ask questions. We did an entire first floor remodel (mostly cosmetic) so there was a lot going on.

Cabinets- Shiloh, inset beaded soft white with slate highlighting and brushing. Tons of details on these, everything is upgraded and pull out or soft glide, etc. They were our biggest expense.

Kitchen Table- Antique tables made daily. Chairs painted and distressed from my old set

New Windows (expanded in kitchen, replaced in entire house)- OKNA. And very glad I went with casement in kitchen in the end as I wasn't going to originally.

Pendants- Mercury glass, shades of light

Range- GE Monogram 36 inch dual fuel with grill (love it)

Sink- Shaw 3018 (love it), also got the stainless grid, love it too.

Prep Sink- Rohl Round 18 inch with Tapmaster (tapmaster nice but not end of world if not)

Faucets- same for both sinks, Delta Leland single hole

Air switches- from home depot (very frustrating. Don�t place these near a faucet handle!)

Floors- Character walnut random width, distressed edges,

Waterlox finish, Blackford and Sons. LOVE!

Vent- GE, free with range 1200 CFMs, loud but works and free is free

Undercabinet lights- seagull ambiance lighting on dimmer, great lights

Disposals- Evolution and Evolution compact, no trouble

Dishwasher- Meihl, some trouble here. Had a flood already! Due to filling the soap dispenser up with soap, apparently a BIG no-no.

Backsplash- subway, Emser cape code in artisan cream crackle ordered from Studio Tile in Fl for around 14/ft, Above range, not sure, some small mosaic from a local store.

Hardware- cabinets, hafele antique black, doors ordered online , Emtek black ordered from simpsons hardware

Paint- Ben Moore (have to look up colors, forget)

Warming drawer- Kitchenaid (used every day!)

Microwave- Sharp MW Drawer (fine)

Fridge- Samsung with convertible fridge drawer (can be used for wine, kids snacks, deli meats,etc) (like it)

Wine Fridge- Uline Captain (some trouble here, two repair visits)

Railings- Iron panels and railing elements ordered from

Kings Architectural Metals and welded locally (love the result)

General Contractor- Tom Christie, Quality Craft Carpentry in Northern Virginia. An absolute doll and has an amazing team. We cannot recommend him and his work highly enough and thankful to our friends who referred him!

We also replaced all our dishes, silverware, glassware, baking and cookware- love all the new stuff!

I think that's it! It took about 4 months of real work for the renovation then some minor details dragged on for a long time.

Overall we LOVE the new kitchen and the new house overall. It's amazingly functional and comfortable and we are really happy with it. Thanks again to everyone for their great advice and support!

From Kitchen Remodel

Let me know if these links dont work, I moved to Picasa and never tried to post from it.

Here is a link that might be useful: Creamy French Classic


lots of similar details in the pics... window... round prep on corner...
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RE: Filtered water faucet at sink? (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: katsmah on 03.14.2011 at 10:39 pm in Kitchens Forum

I have a Kohler Wellspring cold water faucet set across from the Kohler Vinnata faucet.


filtered water
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Happy Accidents

posted by: sandn on 04.13.2011 at 10:41 pm in Kitchens Forum

Ok, so in the spirit of the Kitchen Regrets thread(s), we'd like to know what unexpected features or happy accidents you've discovered in your newly renovated kitchens and would now consider essential.

For example:

We discovered that an ice-maker (a standard feature in our fridge but not one we sought out) is a truly wonderful feature.

We meant to have our countertops form our window sills as one continuous slab but a height discrepancy forced us to add a stepped up sill. Now we love it. Not only does it keep water away from the wood of the window, it gives real presence to the windows and looks like a planned architectural feature.

What are your happy kitchen accidents?


do I want this? or solid all the way back?


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RE: Need Tray Storage Pullout Advice - Cabinetmaker Goof (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: beaglesdoitbetter on 04.01.2011 at 10:07 pm in Kitchens Forum

This is what we are doing, in case a visual helps. I "borrowed" (stole) this idea I believe from someone on GW.
cookie sheet divider


pull out drawer for stuff
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RE: Elevated Dishwasher? (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: desertsteph on 03.16.2011 at 01:27 pm in Kitchens Forum

I think it'd be great! a few on here have them and they love them.

here are 2 gwer's I copied out for my 'idea' folder hoping I could have a raised dw also.



from a local Lowe's -



raised dw
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RE: Full Granite Backsplash 2cm or 3 cm? (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: momto4kids on 03.07.2011 at 03:17 pm in Kitchens Forum

HI Mustangs! :)
I had a full-height granite backsplash in my former home. It was 3cm...only because that's what they carried. If it's the same as your counters, at least it'll come from the same slab(s) and you'll know it matches.

A caution...for some reason, my builder insisted the backsplash go in before my appliance garage, because that's what he "normally" does. Due to the unplanned thickness (most people before me had 4" backsplashes and somehow the appliance garage measurements were "standard"), the sides of my garage had to be cut down to fit flush with the front of the upper cabinet. The extra thickness inside the garage reduced the amount of space I had.

Of course the shortfall of space meant my perfectly planned/measured, well-thought out toaster oven purchased specifically for that space...would NOT FIT!! Grrrr....I was so mad!!! Lesson learned. Put in appliance garage before backsplash...regardless of what builder "normally" does. Haha!


Remember this concerning garage and bs
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RE: Finished Traditional Kitchen (lots of pics) (Follow-Up #41)

posted by: jm_seattle on 03.06.2011 at 12:35 am in Kitchens Forum

Thanks all! We really did our best to build a 50-year kitchen instead of one that would get ripped out in 10 or 20 years. That goal involved always pushing for three things: high quality, high utility, and a traditional look that fit in with the rest of the house rather than the current trends. Here are a few more details and answers to the questions:

The house is a 1924 Tudor. Not very big by today's standards (<2K sq ft), but had a kitchen and breakfast room that we could remodel into a single kitchen without adding on. The total space is about 16' x 12'. Here's the rough floorplan we worked from:

Highly recommended if you're in the Seattle area! In addition to making beautiful, high quality cabinets, it was Tim who came up with a lot of the cool storage ideas like taking advantage of the interior walls.

Compost Bin: Blanco Solon.
It's out of Canada but there are US .com vendors if you do a web search.

Tile: Oregon Tile & Marble's Isole line. They have a showroom in Seattle, but also sell through retail tile stores. &

Here's a closeup of the backsplash:

Hardware is all in polished nickel (except the glass filler, which was the only one we could find that didn't require two hands and was only available in chrome).

Cabinet latches:
We chose ones with large knobs on the advice of our cabinet maker (who said as we got older our hands might have a harder time turning a smaller knob).

Drawer pulls (incl fridge) are Restoration Hardware Aubrey:

Hinges are White Chapel Ball-tip:

Cabinets/trim are Benjamin Moore Bavarian Cream
Walls are C2 Sugar Cookie
Ceiling Benjamin Moore Paper Mache

Counter: Some sort of Brazilian Soapstone. I wouldn't recommend our fabricator. If you're shopping for soapstone, definitely bring a water bottle / damp cloth with you and view each piece wet. Ours was light grey when we bought it, but turned almost jet black when we oiled it with mineral oil, and the damp cloth gave us a much better idea of the final color.

Sink: Franke GNX-110-28.
This was one of the few sinks we could find with a drain in the corner. The corner drain allows the plumbing to be tucked away in a corner and gives you much more usable space under the sink. Here's a shot of the sink and the usable space underneath:

HOOD: Vent-a-Hood SLH9-130SS
COOKTOP: Miele KM5753+

Just let me know if you have other questions- I'm happy to tell the good and bad and it's the least I can do after all the help this forum has given me. :)


more of the storage kitchen
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RE: Banquette Seating - love it or hate it? (Follow-Up #28)

posted by: breezygirl on 03.05.2011 at 02:22 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here's a drawing of standard booth dimensions made by one of the restaurant designers at DH's office. I've read similar measurements myself in Sarah Susanka's books and elsewhere. (Google booth dimensions or the like.) Bench should be 24" deep to account for the slanted back. Standard table width is 30", but you can go less. The table usually overhangs the bench by at least 3", but 4-5" is also common. Top of the seat should be 17-18" off the floor. 24" width is standard "per butt" spacing. Beware of corners where two diners cannot share the same leg space.

Booth dimensions

I'll also link to JH Carr, a major booth fabricator in my state. (They're the ones who made our old booth and will make our new one.) They have a gallery of many different styles they make. Click on a booth you like and then click on the spec sheet to see dimensions. This was also very helpful to me in planning my new kitchen's booth. Mine will be custom made by them because I need the back height to be very specific in order to fit in perfectly with the island around it.

I love the pics of the ones Lavender posted above, but they don't look extremely comfortable to me. I've never sat on one to judge it though!

Here is a link that might be useful: JH Carr, booth fabricator


booth information
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Finished Traditional Kitchen (lots of pics)

posted by: jm_seattle on 03.05.2011 at 01:54 pm in Kitchens Forum

THANK YOU GARDENWEB! We got so many great ideas from this forum, and everybody was so incredibly helpful and generous.

Here are some pics and a few details:
Kitchen corner
Refrigerator and pantry:
Message center:
Message center with built-in chalkboard
Breakfast nook:
Breakfast nook
Our KD wanted an extremely large window area to bring in light, but made it fit into the old house by breaking it up and using leaded glass:
new leaded glass windows
Sink w/glass filler, runnels, & built-in compost bin:
Sink w/Runnels & built-in compost bin
Built-in compost bin close-up:
Built-in compost bin
Mug shelf:
Mug Shelf
Charging drawer. This entire cabinet is deeper than it appears because it is built into the interior wall behind it, gaining an extra 4" or so of storage space without creeping into the walkway in front of it:
Charging station built into drawer
Island cabinets:
Island cabinets wtih cutting board
Miele ovens installed as flush inset (I searched and never did find pictures of this, so hopefully these will help somebody else):
Miele appliances mounted flush inset
Cleaning closet in "invented space" from interior wall:
Cleaning closet
Extra depth for the vacuum was made by reducing the depth of the drawers under the pantry:
Cleaning closet
The placement of the outlet underneath the music player shelf allows the nasty cordness to be hidden from eye-level:
Music Shelf
Toe-kick heater vent. The toe-kick face under the message center & island is covered with stained oak flooring. From eye-level, the toe-kick absorbs the correct amount of light and gives the appearance of freestanding cabinets.
Under island heater vent
The freestanding appearance is clearer here:
Cabinet built-into wall
Drawers under nook seating area:
Under-seat drawers in nook
There is a powder room off the kitchen. This wasn't our first choice, but ended up being our only choice in this old house, and has been okay, especially considering its placement is directly next to the hallway and away from the primary cooking area:
Bathroom off of kitchen
Adjacent mudroom, which became part of the kitchen remodel. The door is to a laundry chute which we use mostly for kitchen towels & napkins.

Here is a link that might be useful: More pictures


has some great storage ideas!
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RE: Banquette Seating - love it or hate it? (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: marcolo on 03.04.2011 at 10:52 pm in Kitchens Forum

Banquettes are super cute. Two advantages: They generally occupy less space for the same number of diners than a standalone table and chairs. Second, you can put in morgue drawers below for extra storage.

Main Street traditional kitchen

Custom Swagged Valances. Banquette Seat & Back Cushions traditional kitchen


hate the name... but good drawer storage!
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RE: Samsung FD fridge owners: (Follow-Up #15)

posted by: pudgybaby on 03.03.2011 at 06:35 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here's a pic of mine, but not a head-on side view. One other thing to consider. Fridges are tilted back a little bit to help ensure that the doors close. So, when I look at my fridge from the side it looks a little crooked relative to the finished wood side. Also, the grocery list pad you see on my fridge has this foam on the back that 'sticks' to the fridge without actually having adhesive. It leaves no mark and they work great.



Full overlay frameless. like this. :-)
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