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Finished kitchen reveal (after 40+ years with the same kitchen)

posted by: MadsMama on 04.09.2014 at 09:06 pm in Kitchens Forum

First, I want to express my gratitude for all of the priceless information that is available on this site. You are all so generous with your knowledge and time. After two false starts, the third time was the charm with our kitchen renovation. I live with my daughter and mother in the house I grew up in. My parents built the house 40+ years ago, and the kitchen hadn't been updated except for a few new appliances over the years.

I recently had some photos taken of my daughter at our home and decided to have the photographer take a few shots of the kitchen as well. So, without further ado, here are the details and photos. I am happy to answer any questions. Thank you for looking!

Cabinetry: Crystal Cabinets full overlay (in Bisque and Cherry with Saddle Brown stain)
Counters: Caesarstone Piatra Grey (perimeter) and Calacatta Oro (island)
Backsplash: Artistic Tile (Veneto Bianco)
Faucets: Waterstone 5600 (Polished Nickel) and Rohl U4759 (Polished Nickel) - air gap/air switches are Waterstone & Rohl, too
Sinks: Blanco Arcon (main) and Blanco Rondo (prep)
Pendants: Currey & Co. Regatta
Refrigerator: KitchenAid Pro 36" CD FD
Cooktop: Bosch 800 induction
Hood: Vent-a-hood 600 CFM insert
Microwave: Sharp 24" drawer
Ovens: Electrolux Wave Touch
Knobs: Restoration Hardware traditional clear glass (PN)
Pulls: Schaub Northport (PN)
Hardware on cherry hutch: Maitland-Smith by Schaub (Dove knobs & Sunflower pulls)
Paint on walls: BM Pashmina
Trim: BM Aura matched to bisque cabinets
Counter Stools: Crate & Barrel Oslo

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Backsplash detail:
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Hutch hardware detail:
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And one "real life" shot taken by me... :)
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Kitchen - and First Floor - Renovation is DONE!

posted by: cwalen on 10.28.2013 at 11:58 am in Kitchens Forum

After 4 long months, our renovation is DONE. We are so pleased and I owe a huge THANKS to this board for inspiration, advice and guidance.

Backstory: We have a 1936 Cape Code that we purchased in 2008. The kitchen was updated by previous owners in the mid 90's. Dark Cherry, traditional cabinetry, laminate counters, almond appliances, and ceramic beige tile floors. Problem is, the kitchen was too closed off and offered no eat in options, and very small and closed off from rest of house. house.

First Floor

Other issues with the first floor include a very under-utilized left side of the house, with a formal DR that was in the farthest place from the kitchen - complete opposite corner of the first floor. After 5 years we also realized we really do not need a traditional full office. We are on laptops and work where ever the kids are located.

So we met with two contractors, went with the one with the best 'vision' and talked about what walls could go. We came up with a design that created a large formal 'great room' on the left side of the house, opened up and expanded the kitchen into the family room (the former living room), and converted the breakfast room into a mudroom with a larger coat & utility closet, built in cubbies for the kids book bags, etc, and a small 'command center' desk.

New First Floor Layout/Design

First Floor-1

Finished Kitchen







Looking from new family room space into open concept kitchen:


Former breakfast room - new mudroom



New Formal Great Room




Cabinetry: Diamond Amhearst maple in painted white. We saved $ with a partial overlay cabinet.

Hardware: RH asbury pulls for drawers in chrome and chrome knobs for doors.

Counters: Honed marble carrara. I did my own 'meg ryan' treatment - twice - with lemon juice scrub downs and made it more honed and more matte. Love!

Backsplash: carrara marble subway tiles. Major score - Lowe's mistakenly marked these at $1.50 sq ft, so I bought the whole store out. This ended up costing me less than $100 for my backsplash.

Appliances: Electrolux gas slide in range, electrolux convection microwave, electrolux french door fridge, bosch dishwasher.

Faucet: Delta Leyland in chrome. Delta soap dispenser in chrome with a Never MT unit. Debated on whether or not I needed one, and so glad I got it...I love it.

Flooring: Had original HW floors refinished in a walnut shade. African slate for mudroom in hopscotch pattern.

Paint: Behr classic silver for whole first floor. Trim in Behr classic white. Mudroom cubbies in Valspar Gotham Gray

Window coverings: Custom 3.5" plantation shutters throughout first floor in Behr classic white.

Lighting: schoolhouse pendants from and all existing brass fixtures swapped out for brushed nickel or chrome. (Chrome in kitchen, brushed elsewhere). LED hard wired undercabinet lighting.

This post was edited by cwalen on Mon, Oct 28, 13 at 16:00


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RE: Where should I put paper towels and other nooks? (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: gooster on 10.26.2013 at 09:20 pm in Kitchens Forum

I have the same marble stand as Romy and a2gemini. It goes very well with my marble BS and works great. I think I prefer having a standalone towel holder, because you can move it where you need it.

I also see many people do built-in holders into their lower cabinets. The cabinet line I used now offers a cool drawer with a built-in towel holder. You could have your cabinet guy modify a drawer to do something similar.


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RE: Confused! Options for instant hot water AND water filter? (Follow-Up #7)

posted by: jscout on 10.01.2012 at 10:42 am in Appliances Forum

I put in an instant hot/RO system and have relayed my experiences. Here are a couple of threads that I participated in regarding your question.


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RE: Show me your cabinet knobs and pulls!! (Follow-Up #69)

posted by: annkh on 05.23.2013 at 10:03 pm in Kitchens Forum

I ordered a couple of samples of the pulls linked below, and I love them! They are heavy and solid. I ordered both 3-3/4 and 5", thinking I would prefer the wider, but I'm glad I ordered both.

I was also convinced I would put pulls horizontally on upper cabinet doors - I love that look in many kitchens here! But when I actually put the pulls up to my cabinet doors, it didn't reach out and grab me.

I think what we've decided is to put the longer pulls on drawers, and the smaller ones vertically on uppers. The exceptions are the pull-outs above the fridge (which are more like drawers) - those will be horizontal larger size, mostly so I can reach them. I have only 3 lower doors - sink base and a 9" tray cabinet - and those will get horizontal pulls (probably the smaller size).

My son suggested (only half-joking) that I place the pulls diagonally on the uppers.

I've been stressing over this decision for weeks, but now that I have objects in my hands, it seems much easier! My existing cabinets are not a lot different than the new ones, so I'm hoping that our feelings will be the same in July, when the new ones are installed.

Here is a link that might be useful: South Bay pulls


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smart corner cabinet door design!

posted by: M_N_A on 12.18.2013 at 01:28 pm in Kitchens Forum

you may already know but I was looking for a better corner door design and finally found this.

I think it's much better than the typical 2 door hinged in the center corner cabinet door as it always seems awkward to me.

hopefully it's not too difficult to modify to have this work


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RE: FOBB - Fear of being boring - Tile Help!! (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: homebuyer23 on 01.09.2014 at 11:08 pm in Kitchens Forum

I also have white shaker and solid gray quartz (Silestone gray expo...whats yours?) and had the same sample and chickened out & went for subway!
One reason I went with this particular marble was that it seemed to have a lot of color variation which I liked. It does, but from a distance it still reads fairly solid, or at least calm, so I bet even the herringbone would be really pretty and interesting and would not be busy or loud at all.


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RE: The Most Half-a$$ed Reveal Ever (Follow-Up #38)

posted by: danielleg on 01.09.2014 at 04:38 pm in Kitchens Forum

Thank you all for the kind words. I was thinking, before I fell asleep last night, and I hope my post didn't come off as snooty or ungrateful. I just meant that I'm in a kichen-UNrelated rut lately. And that I just didn't have it in me to put together a beautiful reveal with lots of pictures and details like so many of the great people here do. And thanks, pirate girl, for your concern and suggestions.

I had the day off today, so I did take a few more pics. My husband is a firefighter who moonlights as a house flipper, so we were already very familiar with Ikea kitchens (which was why we used them - we love them!). I think this is the fifth or sixth Ikea kitchen we've done.

I'll try to answer all the questions I see...

The chandelier was from Pottery Barn, but was on clearance when we bought it back in the summer, so I'm not sure it's being carried anymore.

We do have one dishwasher, a Jenn Air, to the left of the main sink.

The fridge is also a Jenn Air and is magnetic.

We ARE still in the process of installing hardware!

I don't have the whole-room dimensions, but the island is roughly 8' by 4'.

Here are the additional pics...

This is the opposite corner of the room:
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This is a close-up of the different hardware we used. The bin pulls on either side of the range are for our recycling pull-outs (we have to separate paper and plastic):
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Another (missing) hardware close-up of the island:
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One more view:
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And a close-up of the ceiling, because my husband worked SO hard on it!:
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RE: lift-up vs traditional cabinet door advice (Follow-Up #7)

posted by: sas95 on 05.29.2013 at 07:42 pm in Kitchens Forum

We put in lifting doors flanking the range. We keep our spices, olive oils and other things we use a lot while we are cooking in these cabinets. Love them! We can keep the doors lifted if we need to while cooking without having double doors coming out in our faces. There is no decrease in storage space. The hinges are on the sides and take up little room. Our kitchen is transitional, not modern, but I don't believe the lift ups are a style miscue if done in a way that works for the room.


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RE: Have you cooked a turkey on convection roast? (Follow-Up #24)

posted by: rococogurl on 11.15.2013 at 03:07 pm in Kitchens Forum

Happy to share the stuffing recipe, legallin, thanks for asking.

A few notes:
**There is no egg in this stuffing -- none is needed.
**If someone wants to make it richer there are two ways: one is to mix in about 4 tb of unsalted butter cut into 1/4-inch cubes just before stuffing the turkey. Or add cooked pork sausage to the recipe as specified below.
**I usually use non-latex gloves when I work with the turkey and stuffing just to protect my hands from scrapes and the gloves make it easier to stuff under the breast, I find. I remove them before I truss (too slippery otherwise).
** Frozen turkeys need to be thoroughly defrosted and drained really, really well and blotted well inside. (Best to sSee notes upthread on this).

Mushroom-Sage Turkey Stuffing

Makes about 10 cups

Enough for cavity and breast of a 12-pound turkey. This can be prepared several days in advance and stored in an airtight container. It should be brought to room temperature before stuffing the turkey. The recipe doubles and triples easily and a variety of mushrooms can be used.

1-pound day-old sourdough bread (I use a sourdough boule), cut into 1-inch cubes
2 cups boiling chicken stock
6 tablespoons olive or vegetable oil
3 medium garlic cloves, minced
2 medium onions, minced
4 medium celery ribs, sliced thinly or chopped
1-pound fresh mushrooms, wiped clean and sliced thinly (can be combo of white mushroom & portobellos, cremini or can be any mixture of fresh mushrooms or fresh combined with dried . If using dried mushrooms strain and add sub the mushroom-soaking liquid for the stock above - coffee filter best for straining)
Salt and ground pepper
1 teaspoon dried or fresh thyme leaves
1 teaspoon dried, crumbled sage leaves, or ½ teaspoon chopped fresh sage
½ teaspoon dried summer savory, or 1 teaspoon chopped fresh savory
1/3 cup minced parsley

Put the bread cubes in a large mixing bowl. Pour over the hot chicken or mushroom broth and mix thoroughly; set aside to cool.

Heat 3 tbsp. oil in a large skillet. Add garlic and onions. Stir over low heat until softened. Stir in celery and cook over medium-low heat until celery softens; add to bowl with the bread.

Heat 3 more tbsp. oil to the skillet. Stir in the mushrooms and cook over medium-high heat until they darken and all the juices have evaporated. Add mushrooms to the bowl. Add salt, pepper, thyme and savory; mix thoroughly. Adjust seasoning to taste. Can cool, cover and refrigerate up to 3 days.

Remove stuffing from refrigerator 2 to 3 hours in advance. Stir in parsley. It is ready to use.

Note about additions: 1 pound of cooked bulk pork sausage can be thoroughly cooked, drained, crumbled and added to the stuffing. It is delicious but makes it much heavier (of course) and it makes more stuffing.

To stuff the turkey 3 ways (neck, breast, cavity)

Remove everything from the turkey cavity (I keep the neck, heart and giblet to cook in the stock for the gravy. The liver can be cooked, minced and added to the stuffing if you like or used for something else like a pet -- otherwise discard).

Turn the turkey with the leg end facing you and check inside the cavity from the leg end for anything along the backbone -- scrape it out with a paring knife and discard the gunk.

Turn it so the neck end faces you, lift the neck flap and pull away all the visible fat and anything else clinging to the neck skin, taking care not to cut through the skin with a knife or make any holes in the neck skin.

Rinse turkey in ice cold water, drain well it well by upending. Then pat it dry inside and out with paper toweling, changing the toweling several times. Be sure to blot out any excess liquid inside the cavity. The turkey is ready to stuff.

Turn the turkey so the neck end faces you. Lift up the neck skin, and with your fingers, gently feel for the connecting membrane the holds the skin onto each side of the breast, which you can see. Carefully break through that connecting membrane, wedging your fingers in between the skin and breast meat and working around to make a pocket with a 1-inch margin all around. Work carefully to avoid making holes in the skin, which will stay connected to the breast bone.

Repeat to make a pocket over the other side.

To stuff, lift up neck skin and push small handfuls of stuffing into each pocket, working it down towards the cavity end. Fill the pocket evenly to form a 1-inch thick stuffing layer. Repeat to fill the other side. Massage as needed from outside to equalize stuffing and mold it to the contours of the breast.

Turn the turkey and stuff the neck end. Pull the neck skin under the turkey, then secure it by twisting the wing tips back and under so they hold the neck skin in place (if the skin is too short to be held in place by the wings, it can be secured with a toothpick, skewer or trussed). Wing tips are flexible and will stay put so the neck-end of the turkey rests on them.

Pat the inside of the turkey dry again with paper toweling. Spoon stuffing into the cavity then push it back towards the neck end -- it can mound up outside slightly or not. Slide a piece of trussing string under the turkey tail. Pull the legs together then loop the string up and around the legs in a figure 8. Tie a knot to secure them.

It is not necessary to sew the turkey closed at the cavity end.

The turkey is stuffed and ready for roasting. It can be and set aside at room temperature 70-72F for 3 to 4 hours, if necessary.

This post was edited by rococogurl on Fri, Nov 15, 13 at 15:08


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RE: any thoughts on this quartzite for a large island? (Follow-Up #20)

posted by: buckrogers on 10.22.2013 at 12:20 pm in Kitchens Forum

thanks everyone. the backsplash is Waterworks Architectonics 3x6 field tile in Icewater, and the floor is refinished red oak that was water popped and stained with Jacobean. The cabinet pulls are likely going to be the Alno Charlie A726 for everything but the top row of doors, which get a shaker knob that I can't find right now, all in chrome. Perimeter counters are Virginia Mist honed, island countertop is Nuage quartzite, cabinets are Decora. Sinks and the bar + prep faucets are Ruvati, main faucet is Kraus, all from Overstock. Thermador 30" columns and 48" range, Bosch dishwasher, Sharp microwave drawer. Hope that helps.

This post was edited by buckrogers on Tue, Oct 22, 13 at 12:21


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RE: Kitchen layout check for our new (to us) home, please. (Follow-Up #13)

posted by: laughable on 11.15.2013 at 12:58 pm in Kitchens Forum

or... have it more open, something like this? (same book) I also like the under-counter storage on the sitting room side, but was thinking of including seating in the middle.

Any thoughts?

This post was edited by laughable on Fri, Nov 15, 13 at 13:00


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RE: general Kitchen Cabinet buying frustration (Follow-Up #13)

posted by: live_wire_oak on 11.14.2013 at 01:41 pm in Kitchens Forum

You don't know what you don't know.

If you can tell me what the following means, and why it's all included and needed then, you may not need a KD. I'll even include a pic of the design to give you a better clue. It's a 9' dining room buffet, in Dynasty, Porch Swing color on cherry. The whole design is around $7800.

1.0 W1D1860L 660
1.1 MWRPEBL 271
1.2 MWMFI 66
1.3 GREPH 223
1.4 MWRPEBR 271
1.5 MWMSFEL 27
1.6 MWMSFER 27

That's one cabinet in this order. With all of those modifications to make it what it needs to be.

The bottom line is, if you'll actually be real, and share what your budget actually IS, then the professional can sift through all of the mind numbing alterations in order to give you what you need. I also did a version of buffet in a lower cost cabinet line, that no gray stain was available in, so it went into a gray paint. It was $7100. Would have been $6200 in a stained finish, but the customer wanted gray. I can't tell you how many times I do the "double design" thing when a design is borderline close from one line to the other. Then, I explain the differences in the lines, and where the $$ figures are coming from, and let the customer decide how to spend their money. However, they don't get a print out, or even a perspective until a deposit has been paid. That's just business. I sell my creativity and knowledge, and it DOES add value to your kitchen design experience. IF you'll let that happen!


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RE: Window over countertop (Follow-Up #21)

posted by: gpraceman on 11.12.2013 at 03:29 pm in Kitchens Forum

@sjhockeyfan - Maybe OP wasn't aware of them;-)

If you do a Google image search, there are other types of pop-up outlets out there.

Below is a website that shows several different options.

Here is a link that might be useful: Alternatives to Ugly Outlets


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RE: Drawers under sink?? (Follow-Up #12)

posted by: sudaki on 11.06.2013 at 11:50 pm in Kitchens Forum

Our under-sink drawer is one of my favorite parts of our new kitchen. It is nice to have increased storage and eliminate the large hard to access cavern that was under our prior sink. I have been waiting to post pictures of the entire kitchen until the backsplash is up .... but we all know how that goes!!! Here is a preview...

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We were able to fit a bottom drawer with a 9" face under the sink because we installed a shallow sink. The garbage disposal and instahot have just enough room.

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The drawer isn't full depth to accomodate some of the plumbing connections behind it.

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The shelf is sliding and removable in order to make plumbing access possible.

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I feel lucky to have such a creative DH for a cabinet builder!!!


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RE: Drawers under sink?? (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: chicagoans on 11.06.2013 at 04:06 pm in Kitchens Forum

These under-sink pullouts are from a GW member and I saved the picture because I thought they were so nice. I think the member was sandn? Wish I could remember so I could give her/him kudos.


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RE: 1 inch - Is it unreasonable.... (Follow-Up #26)

posted by: detroit_burb on 11.08.2013 at 05:29 pm in Kitchens Forum

there is a fridge outlet box that is recessed and may solve part of the problem if the plug in the back is an issue. This would be easy to do and will help, but may not completely resolve the issue.

also take a look around the bottom of the fridge 'box' and make sure there is nothing on the floor that is keeping the fridge from going all the way back like a piece of molding or an uneven floor board.

Here is a link that might be useful: recessed fridge outlet


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RE: Cabinet run above sink - confused! (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: writersblock on 09.24.2013 at 03:10 pm in Kitchens Forum

I really hate it when there's no extra height over the sink. I always liked this solution, which gives a much more open feel while keeping storage over the sink. I think it's from a GW kitchen, but I've forgotten whose. Apologies, and if this is yours, stand up and take a bow for it:


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RE: Anyone have windows flanking their range? (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: aokat15 on 09.21.2013 at 04:11 pm in Kitchens Forum

I do and love it!! I too removed upper cabs to add these windows and have never regretted it. I love all the natural light coming in throughout the day!! Good luck with your space!

Here is a link that might be useful: My kitchen


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RE: Can I see your beige-y granite countertops? (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: sum5463 on 09.06.2013 at 11:53 pm in Kitchens Forum

Ok, my slab (not yet installed) is busy and has a lot of pattern, but it is beige-y and I love it. It is Bianco Gita. It will be on the island so will really show it's beauty. Can you tell I'm excited? I know it's not what you are looking for but thought you might enjoy seeing it anyway. :) FYI, there is not any pink in it--not sure why the picture is funky. And of course the warehouse lighting doesn't do it justice, but you get the idea!


Bianco gita granite
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RE: If you have nothing better to do.... (Follow-Up #18)

posted by: lavender_lass on 09.06.2013 at 02:28 pm in Kitchens Forum

Circuspeanut- Thanks for thinking of me...great link :)

Rosie- I would love to see that kitchen! I can imagine it and it would be such a great place to have tea and look out the window at your flowers. I have a fairly decent sized kitchen right now (not in farmhouse) but there's really no room for baking. I guess that's my biggest concern with a new space...but I would like it to look like it belonged in an older home. Lots of quirks and personality would be a must!

I really like this baking area and would like to do something similar by the ovens.

From Lavender Lass farmhouse pictures

Kali- I agree, Rosie describes a wonderful kitchen. It would be so nice to have a sunroom, I hope you get yours finished, soon! I don't have a stove right now, but we did when I was a kid (for about a year and a half). It was a huge old wood stove that really heated the house...but it was very utilitarian. I'm hoping to get something smaller (and more charming) that fits in the corner. Here are a few of the stove pictures I've posted in the past. Which one did you like?

From Lavender Lass farmhouse pictures

From Lavender Lass farmhouse pictures

This is actually the fireplace that is in the Aga kitchen, above...

From Lavender Lass farmhouse pictures

From Snow White album

And just a really cute fireplace...

From Snow White album

And you really need a kitty, at least I do :)

From Lavender Lass farmhouse pictures

From Lavender Lass farmhouse pictures


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RE: Mudroom locker systems from cabinet companies? (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: legardhome on 11.12.2006 at 07:05 pm in Building a Home Forum

Kraftmaid has something called an entryway ensemble that looks like a one piece unit consisting of a bench with two drawers beneath, a beadboard or smooth back, a rail with 4 hooks and some crown moulding. Measurements are 48 7/8" wide, 18" deep, and 80 1/2" tall. I attached a link. Last three items at the bottom of the page.

However, we built our own out of 3/4" plywood, much cheaper I would imagine. I still need baskets for the top.

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Here is a link that might be useful: kraftmaid entry way ensemble


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Finished Kitchen Reveal -- Traditional Yellow Stained Cabs

posted by: taggie on 02.14.2012 at 09:12 pm in Kitchens Forum

I finally have pics of our new kitchen. We've been done almost two months now and are so happy with it. It's the perfect kitchen for us and works for the way we live.

Many thanks to the wonderful folks on gardenweb for helping design my kitchen. Some who helped overtly by making suggestions on the layout -- Rhome you probably don't even remember but I'll be forever greatful to you! And some who helped without knowing it by just influencing my choices -- buehl whose upper tray storage idea I used and who I think first introduced me to the sharp mw drawer, thynes who influenced by backsplash tiles, and many many more. Before gardenweb, I'd never even heard of some of the things we ended up putting into our kitchen, e.g., the refrigerator drawers as one example. I just love this site!

Prior to remodel, our stove was on a far wall across the aisle from water, while fridge and pantry were behind the island ... totally bass-ackwards and I felt like I was running an obstacle course every time I took a boiling pot of water from the stove, navigating over the dog and around hubby who was likely at the fridge getting cream for his coffee. The biggest change our remodel was switching the fridge and stove runs, and putting a second sink/beverage area which my husband can use while I cook and we aren't in each other's way now. Yay.

Cabinets: Local Custom Cabinet Maker (in GTA, Canada)
Fridge/Freezer: Kenmore Pros with risers & top/bottom trim kit
Range: Monogram ZDP484GPSS
Hood Insert: Monogram ZVC48LSS
Fridge/Freezer Drawers: JennAir JUD248C
Microwaves: Sharp 24" drawer KB6014MSC and Kenmore cheapie
Coffee Maker: Miele CVA4066
Trash Compactor: Kitchenaid KUCS03FTPA
Dishwashers: Kenmore Elite tall tub & Kenmore Elite drawer
Main Sink: Kindred couble offset (forget the model)
Bar Sink: Nantucket NS20
Faucets: Delta Waterfall & Delta Addison
Other Faucets: Insinkerator Hot at main sink, Insinkerator Cold at bar sink
Other Gadgets: Insinkerator Garbage Disposal, Hot Tank, Water Chiller
Backsplashes: Saltillo Tile las vegas and alaska
Tile floor: Astor 18s and 12s in hopscotch pattern
Chandelier & Pendants: Rona cheapies

Favorite things:
-- Coffee maker (I would marry it if I could, I love it so much :))
-- The workflow!! Finally, a kitchen that works!
-- Grill: took me a while to try this out, but have just used it 7 nights in a row now and it's fantastic
-- Remote mount hood control (it's just fun every time I turn it on)
-- Dog food drawer
-- DH's vitamin drawer (it looks a mess inside, but they used to get left all over the desk in our pre-drawer kitchen ... now everything stays in the drawer and the mess gets shut away, it's magic :))
-- Too many other tings to mention so I'll finally shut and post some pics now














Finally, a couple cool little extras our cabinet maker did for us:

Put niches in the back undersides of the island so we can keep our laptop cords there:

Made us these little 'shelf boxes' to raise smaller items in our glass uppers so they can be seen from floor level -- he stained the boxes dark or yellow to match the respective cabs, and it was a nice surprise for us as we weren't expecting these:

Did custom, movable drawer dividers - after the kitchen was installed he asked us which way we wanted dividers to go for each drawer (horizontal or vertical) then came back a couple days later with drawer dividers custom cut to wedge in tight, but we can unwedge and move them depending on what we want to store:

I love my new kitchen. Thanks to everyone on gardenweb for helping to shape it!


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Marble, quartzite and other rocks in the kitchen

posted by: karin_mt on 02.27.2013 at 11:35 pm in Kitchens Forum

The thread about Super White, quartzite, marble and all things stone has run its course up to the 150 post limit. Who knew we'd all have so much fun with that topic? So we'll start a new one here. I guess the first thread was Rocks 101, so this one must be Rocks 102.

I'll reiterate some key points here:

Quartzite and marble are hopelessly (deliberately?) mixed up in the decorative stone industry. My point, aside from just loving rocks, is to help folks learn how to tell the difference between the two so you are not at the mercy of a sales rep when a multi-thousand dollar purchase hangs in the balance.

Quartzite is much harder than marble and will not etch when exposed to acids. You can tell the difference between quartzite and marble by doing the scratch test.

Take a glass bottle with you when you go stone shopping. Find a rough, sharp edge of the stone. Drag the glass over the edge of the stone. Press pretty hard. Try to scratch the glass with the stone.

Quartzite will bite right into the glass and will leave a big scratch mark.
Any feldspar will do the same. (Granites are made mostly of feldspar)

Calcite and dolomite (that's what marble and limestone are made of) will not scratch. In fact you will be able to feel in your hand that the rock won't bite into the glass. It feels slippery, no matter how hard you press.

PS - don't press so hard that you risk breaking the glass bottle. You shouldn't need to press that hard!

That aside, we can talk about other rocks too. Coal, pumice, sparkly crystals, you name it. OK, I guess we're mostly interested in kitchen rocks. :)

Here is a link that might be useful: the lowdown on Super White (aka Rocks 101)

This post was edited by karin_mt on Wed, Feb 27, 13 at 23:41


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dimmable led uc light questions

posted by: andreak100 on 08.10.2013 at 09:20 pm in Kitchens Forum

I'm still struggling with what to do about UC's been one of the portions that I've looked at a bit, got confused and frustrated (I just can't seem to wrap my head around it) and left it to deal with at another time. Well, "another time" is really going to need to be, I've got to figure it out. I've been reading all of David Tay's helpful info in the Lighting Forum and it's helped a bit.

One thing that I seem to be reading a bit is that the dimming portion is so-so, at best. My plan is to use my UC lighting both as task lighting and ambient, I need something rather bright that will dim down considerably.

For those of you who installed dimmable UC LED - what did you go with? How do you feel about the dimming qualities of those lights? If you had to do the lighting all over again, is there anything that you would change?


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RE: Reality check on my kitchen plan before I get in too deep (Follow-Up #41)

posted by: buehl on 07.29.2013 at 10:59 pm in Kitchens Forum

cevamal...I just use Microsoft PowerPoint. I have a "template" file with graph paper and the "fixtures" and "appliances" that I've created. Everything in the file is to the scale of 0.8" = 24". On the graph paper, the boxes are 1 box = 6". If you have PowerPoint and you'd like the file, email me from "My Page" (the link next to my name when I post a response).

I've attached a thread from 5 years ago (wow! has it been that long???) that gives you the basics of what I do. [I thought I had a more recent one, but if I do, I don't know where it is right now.]

Here is a link that might be useful: Modifying A Poster's Layout


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RE: Reality check on my kitchen plan before I get in too deep (Follow-Up #7)

posted by: lavender_lass on 07.27.2013 at 07:43 pm in Kitchens Forum

I don't know if an angle cooktop would work, or not. Normally the GWer's say you need plenty of prep space around the cooktop, but here are a few pictures.

Corner sink, no windows, but very pretty

From Farmhouse plans

Cooktop on angle

From Farmhouse plans

Cooktop on side of island

From Farmhouse plans

My favorite kitchen (I think it's all the windows, plants and cool vintage sink) from Laura Calder's pre-remodel kitchen.

From Lavender Lass farmhouse pictures

Here's a link, if you want to see the cooktop. She has a big island with lots of prep space :)

Here is a link that might be useful: Link to Laura Calder kitchen


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RE: RE: RE: Over sink cutting boards (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: badgergal on 06.28.2013 at 12:06 pm in Kitchens Forum

And here is what it looks like on on the bottom. The picture doesn't show the far edge but it looks just like the edge you can see. The little rubber feet allow the board to be used on the counter without sliding around.


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RE: Finalizing plan and moving into the details (Follow-Up #10)

posted by: taggie on 07.27.2013 at 03:44 pm in Kitchens Forum

Thanks rikerk! The total area including coffee machine and appliance garage is 7' 3"' and the smaller full-countered in between (ie, from spoon rest to towel holder area) is 3' 6".

swfr, thank you too. The cabs were made by a wonderful custom shop called Concept Cabinets in west-end greater Toronto area. The counters are Caesarstone chocolate truffle.


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RE: Seeking votes/opinions - Uppers on BS Window and Sink Wall (Follow-Up #70)

posted by: island on 05.19.2013 at 06:02 pm in Kitchens Forum

Oooh here's few with a cab over the sink. First has more space and vava voom than what you had in mind, but white shaker and I can picture that backsplash a window. What I like about these is they only shortened the cab above by the width of the sink or a few inches wider at the most. First pic cab above looks about 1/2 the length of the surrounding cabs, the rest longer.

Not the best example, but the last one is kind of what I was talking about with short cab above the width of the sink (yours in glass) with a full length narrower glass cab on each side of the sink, and solid door cabs the same as you show. I'm not great with the diagrams with the measurements so not sure if what I see in my head fits.


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RE: Sink and range on one wall - photos anyone? (Follow-Up #10)

posted by: pricklypearcactus on 07.29.2010 at 10:20 am in Kitchens Forum

scottielee's kitchen from the finished kitchen blog has a range and sink on the same wall and is absolutely stunning.


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RE: Lighting layout...really need feedback on this plan! (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: calumin on 07.23.2013 at 01:28 am in Kitchens Forum

You should read through this thread from the Lighting forum:

LED recessed cans guide for kitchen

The short version of the thread is that LED is a great option for kitchens now, and that Cree CR4 (4") and CR6 (6") are the best LED recessed lights for the price. Home Depot sells a version (EcoSmart) for ~$35-40, with the can will be about ~$50 total.

To get a very rough ballpark estimate of how much light (lumens) you need, take the square footage and multiply by 35. You could go higher but that could serve as a baseline for all lighting. I ended up 50% over that baseline amount but am happy I did that, and have dimmers if necessary (I also don't have all the lights on at once).

The issue you will have with LED recessed lights is the cans. If your electrician is wiring them tomorrow, then you might not be able to get cans at the store -- I had to buy mine online. Cans and recessed lamps are not always interchangeable -- you have to test them first. The thread lists some cans that are compatible with Cree CR4/6. You could just go to Home Depot and get a different LED light like Juno -- but I found the Cree light to be much brighter. I bought 4" recessed lights and it was great -- however if there was less light output (e.g. from another brand) I would have rather gone to 6" to keep the lumen output high.

On the UCLs, one word of advice is to buy them early. I bought TechLighting UniLume which took three weeks to arrive. This thread may help:

led ucl continuation


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LED recessed cans guide for kitchen ...

posted by: davidtay on 01.30.2012 at 01:27 am in Lighting Forum

A collection of tips/ answers
Since kitchens have higher lighting requirements, I like to use 35 lumen per sq ft as a rule to compute the number of lights. If there are additional sources of light that will be used, the output (lumens not watts) from those sources can be deducted from the total.

Placement/ layout
1. Cans should be > 24 to 30 inches from the wall (on center). Most countertop spaces have upper cabinets (typically ~ 12" deep) + crown molding. The edge of the can may be spaced ~ 12" away from the edge of the crown molding (if present or cabinet if there is no crown molding) making the average distance between 26 to 30 inches.

2. Assuming the need for a fairly uniformly lit space @ 35 lumens per sq ft, the cans may have to be spaced closer together - between 3 - 4 ft apart (if all general lighting is provided by recessed lights). A fairly regular pattern is preferable to a random layout.

3. The actual layout of cans will be impacted by the location of ceiling joists, HVAC ducting, electrical wiring, plumbing, ceiling height, fire suppression sprinklers and other obstructions above the ceiling.

The Cree LR6 series lamps do not dim as well as the later models (CR6, ...). ELV dimmers probably work better with LR6 than incandescent dimmers since the total load of the lights may not meet the minimum load requirement for the incandescent dimmer.

Dimmers such as the Lutron Diva CL dimmers work well. The max output is 95%.

Some Choices (in order of preference) and notes
Cree CR6 or ECO-575 (Home Depot branded CR6)
ECO4-575 (Home Depot branded Cree CR4 4" recessed light)
The above are only available in 2700k light color.

Cree LR6 series - including the LE6.

The Cree CR6 and LR6 lamps will not fit into 5" housings.

The standard LR6 behaves more like a surface mount than a recessed light as the LED emitters are close to the surface and the recess is shallow. Some may not like the amount of light spillage (standard LR6).

There is a higher output version of the LR6 that has a much deeper recess.

To prevent the Cree lamps from falling out, the 3 prongs have to be fully extended and a slight clockwise twist made when push installing. The slight clockwise twist will ensure that the prongs are fully extended.

The Cree lamps are currently the best available today (2012).

Sylvania RT-6, RT-4. The lights could be easier to install than Cree lamps as they utilize the torsion spring mechanism. However, the lights do not look as pleasant as the Cree lamps.

The Cree and Sylvania lamps do outperform 26W CFLs (and incandescents) in a standard recessed can in terms of light spread and output as the standard bulb in a can solution traps a significant amount of light. The Cree and Sylvania recessed lamp solutions referenced above have all the LED elements facing outwards so that the effective light output is higher.

The CRI (Color Rendition Index) of Cree and Sylvania recessed lamps > 80.

There is no warm up time required for Cree recessed lamps, unlike CFL light bulbs.

Most recessed lighting is used with flat ceilings. Sloped ceilings would require special solutions such as the LE6 or some other form of lighting (i.e. -non recessed lighting).

Some common objections to recessed can lights stem from
1. looks and performance of traditional can lights (standard bulb in a can)
2. swiss cheese effect from too many holes.


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RE: Are Steam Ovens worth it? (Follow-Up #15)

posted by: redoingit on 02.02.2013 at 01:44 am in Appliances Forum

Popover recipe:

Makes about a eight popovers
6 eggs
2 c. whole milk
2 c. all purpose flour
3/4 t. salt
6 T.unsalted butter, softened
2 T. meltedunsalted butter for greasing ramekins or muffin pan
To Make the Popovers: Preheat your oven to 380 degrees Fahrenheit/NO steam. Melt two tablespoons of butter and baste a muffin tin with it or eight ramekins. Grease well! Beat your eggs and milk together in a small bowl. In a separate medium sized bowl add your flour and salt.
Work butter into flour until adequately combined. Gradually add flour mixture to milk and egg and blend with a wire whisk.
Scoop the batter into each muffin cup or ramekin, about 3/4 full. The more full, the higher and more puffy your popover will be (I normally fill to about 1/8" below lip. If you are using ramekins, you will want to place them on a cookie sheet and then put the cookie sheet in the oven. Bake for about 50 minutes for a crispier outer shell, and moist interior, until golden. Open your oven and gently poke each popover with the tines of a fork. Turn the oven off, leaving the popovers inside for 5 more minutes. Take out of the oven and gently release each popover using a butter knife to separate any stuck bits until they pop out.
Serve warm with butter or gravy poured over the top.


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Custom Drawer Inserts

posted by: meyersdvm on 06.05.2013 at 12:54 pm in Kitchens Forum

I learned about Wood Hollow's custom drawer inserts from this forum. I ordered from their eBay site last Wednesday and my drawer inserts arrived very well packaged yesterday.

I love that they match my wood drawer interiors and leave no wasted space. They are well made and very reasonably priced at $35 each for cutlery and utensil inserts and $25 for a fluted spice insert. My spice drawer is in a bank of base cabs that are only 18 inches in depth, so standard inserts would not have worked.

Spice drawer
Utensil drawer
Cutlery drawer

Here is a link that might be useful: Cutlery Insert


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RE: pictures of warm white cabinets with lighter granite (Follow-Up #21)

posted by: firsthouse_mp on 04.13.2010 at 12:32 am in Kitchens Forum

I love white and more white...I have always wanted a white kitchen and I finally have the chance now that we are remodeling our rancher. Whether white kitchens are passe or not, I couldn't care less. I am building my home for my family and friends and whether my kitchen was a dated one from the 1970s or a new passe white one, my goal is to create a place that's a magnet for family and friends to enjoy, feel welcome and create memories. If you love the look, go for it. While the look itself seems very "cool" and not warm, I plan to have a number of warm accessories and my big farmhouse table and chairs, etc. will add to the wood, organic feel. Not to mention my 6 chickens that are squawking outside the back door!

My cabinets are BM Simply White which is very creamy. Love the color! Compared to many whites, it looks quite yellow. I used a white quartzite counter called White Princess.

From Menlo Farmhouse

From Menlo Farmhouse
From Menlo Farmhouse
From Menlo Farmhouse

From farther away, it looks quite white.
From Menlo Farmhouse


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RE: please help choose lighting (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: chispa on 07.10.2013 at 03:47 am in Kitchens Forum

I read your explanation and understand why you have to swag ... it would just bother me when I looked at it every single day! I would place the electrical box off center in the cove and centered over the table. I'm linking a site with pendants similar to those moroccan lanterns, but lots of options. I love their lights, but haven't found a spot for them in my house. Probably not budget friendly, but major eye candy!

Here is a link that might be useful: CX Design Lighting


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RE: pic3 (Follow-Up #13)

posted by: Shareher on 06.07.2012 at 10:22 am in Kitchens Forum

And a third.


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RE: electrolux or miele induction cooktop over wall oven (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: country_smile on 12.02.2010 at 10:13 pm in Appliances Forum

We have the Miele Induction over a Miele oven. I am pleased with both appliances and would buy them again.

It took a day or two of using the controls until I discovered I was actually pressing too hard, but now with a slight touch or "rock" of the finger it's on. Someone commented once that for the price you pay for a Miele they'd expect it to be the easiest thing to use but, really, a 1 or 2 day learning curve is no big deal.
"The Miele looks better imo, especially the wall oven" - I agree.. function and form.
Is it worth 2x the money? That's for each person to answer for themselves after they take into account things such as what they want the appliance to do, how often they use the appliance, their budget, the manufacturer, etc. I paid full price for the cooktop, but the oven was around $1200 or so off because it was a floor model.


We have the 36" cooktop over the 30" oven and it still has a smooth look. Our cabinet maker adjusted the top drawers (only) on either side of the oven to accommodate the wider cooktop.



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RE: Our Kitchen Remodel Journey (Follow-Up #55)

posted by: gpraceman on 06.21.2013 at 08:07 pm in Kitchens Forum

I'm still working on the fireplace surround, but I thought that I would take a diversion and get the UCL installed. I think that it turned out pretty well and they seem plenty bright to me.

Total cost was $161. I used Armacost brand LED strips from Home Depot. Needed parts were the 30W power supply, 12ft LED tape, 18 gauge CL2 rated speaker wire, snap connectors for the LED tape, wire connectors, terminal strip and jumpers, and aluminum flat bars. I could have done without the aluminum bars, but it made mounting easier. The 12ft of LEDs was perfect for our needs, as I had just a little left over.

First, cut the LED tape so there is a maximum number of LED's to fit under each particular cabinet. Then cut the aluminum bars a bit shorter, so the snap connectors can fit over the tape ends. Peel off the LED tape backing and press onto the corresponding bar. Attach pieces of heavy duty double sided tape to the back of the bars. Using a 3/4" wide wood strip as a spacer, adhere the bars under the corresponding cabinets. The spacer makes placement easier and puts the LED's about 1-1/4" from the front edge of the cabinet frame. That distance works out well, as there is no shadow of the front edge being cast onto the counter. To make sure that polarity of the strips would not be an issue, all strips where mounted so the writing on the strips were all in the same orientation with respect to the front edge of the cabinet.

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Before the cabinets went in, I installed an outlet above one cabinet, controlled by a switch. It is hidden by the crown molding. Plugged into that is the 30W power supply. The output side is connected to a terminal strip which allows connection of the two LED runs. Speaker wire runs behind the wall and to the bottom of the upper cabinets flanking our window.

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The two upper cabinets were notched around the speaker wires. That is the only modification of the cabinets that was required in this whole install. Bullet connectors attach the speaker wire to the first LED strip in the run.

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Snap connectors for the LED tape daisy chain the strips together. Once the light rail is installed, any wire hanging down a bit will be hidden.

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Though, after bending over backwards to mount these strips, I may need to get DW to give me a good back massage.

Here is a link that might be useful: Armacost LED Lighting

This post was edited by gpraceman on Fri, Jun 21, 13 at 20:25


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RE: Experience with Vermont white granite? (Follow-Up #5)

posted by: Madeline616 on 04.25.2012 at 04:53 pm in Kitchens Forum

Hi Mom23,

You're sure it's not Vermont Danby Marble? I just did my kitchen with Vermont Danby, I've written about it several times and love it. It's definitely marble, although one of the benefits is that less porous than carrera or calacatta marbles, making it somewhat more stain resistant.

You might want to send a pic of your slabs to the helpful folks at Vermont Quarries, the Vermont Danby marble comes from. They can probably help you identify your slabs.

Here is a link that might be useful:


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RE: Marble alternatives (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: Mur12506851 on 06.24.2013 at 08:38 pm in Kitchens Forum

I was in the exact same predicament and did go with granite -- Vermont White Granite. It looks very much like marble but has the durability we all want in the kitchen. Many people who have come to see the new kitchen ask if it's marble.


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RE: Plans, help me improve them? (Follow-Up #20)

posted by: huango on 06.12.2013 at 05:38 pm in Kitchens Forum

this is faster than me taking pix of my sink/trash setup.

scroll down to morton5's post:

This is kiffgirl's eye-vac:


kiffgirl's sink w/ the eye-vac installed. Mine is still on the to-do list:

I also got the Blum Servo hands-free opening for the trash door side so I won't be yanking on the trash door.
Also, not yet installed.

good luck,


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RE: Plans, help me improve them? (Follow-Up #14)

posted by: kksmama on 06.11.2013 at 04:43 am in Kitchens Forum

I have a GC meeting this morning, so I'm bumping my own thread (sorry!) with my most pressing questions for GW:

1) If I make lowers deeper (27" or 30"?) will the uppers be more functional at 15" or more deep? Would it maximize utility and look okay to make the one above the sink shallower and set it a little higher (how shallow, how high?) - it looks like that is what mamadadapaige did here rent=17.jpg

2) If the dishwasher is on the left of the sink, where is trash best placed? I'm intrigued by the non-dominant side argument, but I'm going to have to persuade dh - probably by making a huge mess of the kitchen and then filming his clean up.

3) Can anyone help me understand how to resolve the awkwardness of the left side of the wall if the cabinets extend further to the left than the corner that is there now? The GC seems to think some minor drywalling will make that look right, but I just don't get it. Seems to me that it will create a visual obstruction from the dining nook. Is the 96" I have "enough" for all that I want to do on that wall? I'm thinking 24" sink base, 24" dishwasher, 18" trash pullout, and I still get a 30" drawer stack. Uppers have dishes, glasses, cabinets and the microwave.

I hope I can figure this out! I can visualize the island, the cooking wall, and the new fridge placement. But this darn weird wall is so frustrating. I'm looking for, and finding, cabinets that wrap around angled walls - maybe that would work there?


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RE: Anyone do away with their kitchen table and extend their isla (Follow-Up #22)

posted by: mom2reese on 03.24.2010 at 10:39 am in Kitchens Forum

I have a island similar to rtorgy1's - a drop down to table height. We have knee walls as part of the support structure, and there's 18" of leg space.

We do have a formal dining room, but we only use it when guests are over. Our nightly meals (family of 4) are at the island, and the girls sit there to draw, do homework, eat snacks, etc. We LOVE it and don't miss having a separate kitchen table at all. The island has really become the family hub for us.

Some cons:
- our configuration has a bit of dead space in the center, but I've since put in some big glass jars for decoration. When we're hosting parties, though, the extra space is awesome for setting up chafing dishes, etc.
- I don't personally like eating at bar-height, especially with my kids, so I'm really happy going with table height. I find, however, that at parties, no one ever sits down at the table like they did at the bar at my last house. Everyone stands AROUND the island, but no one sits down. I think if it were a bar, people would feel more comfortable sitting down and chatting.



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RE: Now, you're done-what do you wish you had known while plannin (Follow-Up #54)

posted by: desertsteph on 05.17.2010 at 04:13 pm in Kitchens Forum

florantha - regarding the SS - do you mean something like this?



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RE: Now, you're done-what do you wish you had known while plannin (Follow-Up #18)

posted by: rhome410 on 02.24.2010 at 01:03 pm in Kitchens Forum

2 things I could have done with my same layout:

- I wish I'd known more about having the window come down to the counter and bumping it out from the sink, as Erikanh and Mamadadapaige did. (And I wish I would have pushed my dh more to remedy that situation before he went to all the work of doing all the interior trim just a few months ago.)
Erika's: current=CIMG1139.jpg

- I wish I would have realized that with a prep sink, I didn't need a dbl bowl cleanup sink and had chosen a giant single instead.

The following 2 would have been nice, but may not have been possible even if I'd known:

- I admire Vicnsb's closet style corner pantry that tucks in behind one cabinet run while opening on the adjacent one. I may have had a couple of them! I think it is a cool style of dish storage...Or one like Erikanh did in her corner. current=CIMG1218.jpg

- I wish I would have realized I would have preferred the stove across from the long side of the island instead of the end.


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RE: Help with sink in island configuration (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: cloud_swift on 06.25.2011 at 01:07 pm in Kitchens Forum

You could go 45" to 51" wide. One way would be to use 30" base cabinets with a 15" to 18" wide overhang. Another would be 24" of cabinets and a 24" overhang supported by legs and a frame. (I think that 24" is too much to support cantilevered off a 24" base.) Or you could do a 12" to 15" overhang with a 36" base made of a 24" row and a 12" row of cabinets. The 12" row of cabinets either has doors on the sides or the back (under the overhang).

We used the last method above. We have our rangetop and prep sink in the island, but our prep sink is the same depth (front to back) as many main sinks so perhaps it can still help you visualize. Our island base is 36" by 96". The back row of cabinets has a 12" wide cabinet facing each side. Between those are two 24" wide 12" deep cabinets with doors under the overhang. Our overhang is 15". We were going to do 12" but we had the room and a big enough slab so we decided to go with 15" to have a bit more generous legroom.



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finished! Vintage Cream in the City

posted by: shanghaimom on 05.01.2010 at 09:14 pm in Kitchens Forum

Hi all,

We are finally finished with our kitchen remodel of our 1889 home. I have been a daily (truthfully, sometimes HOURLY) lurker and sporadic poster for almost two years. There is NO WAY I could have planned this remodel without the help of GW--We were living in China for over 5 years and I had to do all of my planning from there. This meant NO MAGAZINES, nor could I visit showrooms and see anything in person. Every time I had a question, I seemed to be able to find a thread about it. Not to mention all of the inspirational photos!!! I was so afraid of missing an important tidbit! (We were 13 hours ahead there, so I could easily miss a thread as it fell off onto pages two, three, four...)

Anyway, many thanks to all of the great TKO people who contribute to this forum.

Photos first! Details at the end. (o:




pass-thru detail

cabinetry--local custom painted in BM Bone White oil-based enamel
walls-- BM Ballet White
counters--Zodiaq quartz Mystic Black (kind of a charcoal color)
pulls--Amerock Revitalize in Burnished Bronze
sink--Ticor zero-radius SS508
faucet--Kohler Vinnata in Vibrant Polished Nickel
range-36" Bertazzoni Heritage Series in Anthracite
hood- Vent-A-Hood NPH9-136
backsplash- 3" hexagonal Calcatta marble
pendants--Hinckley Knickerbocker (these are on clearance all over for a song right now...)
windows--Marvin double-hung cottage style


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Finished Finished! Rancher Remodel, dark to light! (tons pix)

posted by: firsthouse_mp on 06.28.2010 at 02:29 pm in Kitchens Forum

We are done, we are moved in.....after 17mos living with my mom and enduring living out of cardboard boxes! Love love love my new kitchen!! Thank you to all of you who deeply inspired me (redroze,elizpiz,rm,theanimala,segbrown,many many more!), and I hope you don't mind that there's a piece of each of your kitchens that I copied because I admired it so much. I learned so much by lurking, reading everything then finally posting.

--Our cabinets were so reasonable and they work beautifully. We LOVE Precision Cabinets! Their install was immaculate and perfect. When we had a glitch with the warming drawer, they fixed it perfectly! While I couldn't afford every "bell & whistle" inside the cabinets, I love them.
--White Princess honed. It's gorgeous and I no longer have the OCD urge to constantly wipe my counters (our old granite was polished). I also love my backsplash done in the same material--I am attracted to visual simplicity so couldn't pick a tile :)
--Cheap dishwasher. Paid $500 and we love it.
--Deep cheap sinks. Our main Ebay sink is awesome($500)! Love the 10" big single bowl. The island sink was cheap too, and is the perfect size, $150.
--White everywhere and one big room. Not for everyone, but my DH and I love the big open light-filled room. Far cry from the dark rancher that it was. We tore down two walls and raised the ceiling.
--The soapstone buffet. It was a remnant piece and I love that it doesn't match the rest of the kitchen. Sets it apart and boy does the texture feel nice!
--The papertowel niche. Not important, but I like that the towels are off my counter and totally accessible.
--The two hidden cabinets in the island near the stools. All my Xmas dishes, Thanksgiving platters and everything fit in here!

--The Vent Hood: Modernaire was a NIGHTMARE to deal with here in the NorCal area. You have to go through a distributor who will upcharge you $2,000 to order a hood. Modernaire won't sell directly to anyone who is in the area of one of their distributors. The rep here was a complete idiot, ripped me off and in the end didn't deliver what I had ordered. I had to then hire someone else to fix the goofs. Not worth it!

--Order our range through AJ Madison. Total pain to get this stove delivered. The rest of our appliances came without a hitch but the delivery of the range was a disaster. They refused to deliver it until we had a concrete pathway, but our city had some issues with solid pathways and the runoff, etc. Had 4 delivery dates and they turned around each time and refused to bring it in the house. In the end I would have purchased this through our local store (there was no discount on this by buying on internet, unlike the other appliances).

--Help me pick kitchen table chairs! Those pictured are folding chairs for holidays. Our old ones were falling apart, so we ditched them in the move. What should I put there?
--Shades ordered and we are waiting for them to come and be hung.
--The stools (CB2 Vapor) are too tall and we need to have the legs cut down. They only come in 30" or 24" and one is too tall and the other is too short. Sigh.

Cabinetry�Precision Cabinets, Brentwood, CA; painted in stock color which matches Simply White
Walls�BM Simply White
Kitchen Counters�White Princess granite, from DaVinci Marble & Stone in San Carlos, CA, with 2.25" mitred square edge
Buffet Counter�Brazilian Black soapstone from Texeira, SF, with no edge finish
Door and Drawer Pulls�Top Knobs, Square Pulls, Polished Chrome; ordered off the internet
Main Sink�Ebay purchase 36" SS Farmhouse w/apron front , single bowl, flushmount
Island Sink�Dawn 19X17 single bowl, undermount
Main Faucet�Blanco Meridien Semi-Professional in Brushed
Island Faucet�Santec Penza pull out in Brushed
Refrigerator�Electrolux WaveTouch; ordered off
Dishwasher�Whirlpool Gold Quiet Partner III; ordered from AJ Madison
Microwave Drawer�Sharp 24"; ordered from AJ Madison
Range�Viking Range w/6 burners and griddle; ordered from AJ Madison
Hood� Modernaire custom hood
Trash Compactor�GE Profile in SS; ordered from AJ Madison
Warming Drawer�Kitchenaid Architect Series II; ordered off; panel from cabinet co.
Backsplash�White Princess granite
Flooring-DuChateau pre-engineered floors in Lugano
Big Slider Door�Custom made 10� bypass doors by McFarland Doors, w/custom screen
Island Pendants�Hudson Valley Pelham 13" ordered from Butler Lighting
Breakfast Table Pendant�Round 26" linen chandelier by Restoration Hardware
Buffet Sconces�Boston Library Sconces by

Before Remodel
Family room:Before Remodel
Before Remodel



clipped on: 06.18.2013 at 05:09 am    last updated on: 06.18.2013 at 05:09 am

RE: pictures of warm white cabinets with lighter granite (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: cali_wendy on 02.15.2010 at 12:49 pm in Kitchens Forum

Our cabinets are BM Linen White, granite is honed Colonial Gold, backsplash is tumbled Crema Marfil marble, walls are green and floors are white oak with medium brown stain. We have an open concept with plenty of natural light, but a couple of big trees that keep the house from being super bright. I wanted something light because I wanted the medium floors and I have darker wood furniture. Although it is pretty monochromatic, it still feels warm and cozy to me.

I don't have great finished pics yet. Here are some from Christmas and another with better lighting. Hope you can get the idea despite the poor lighting.


Kitchen looking towards dining/dry bar.

Kitchen from dining.

Kitchen with island



clipped on: 06.18.2013 at 04:57 am    last updated on: 06.18.2013 at 04:58 am