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Help me make my own flour, cracked grain etc.

posted by: lalitha on 03.01.2012 at 07:58 am in Cooking Forum

I want to see if I can move to milling our own flour, making cracked grains etc. I have been reading reviews of nutrimill, wonder mill etc. but am not sure if they will do all that I want.

1. Mill flour for baking- bread, pastry,
2. Handle grains besides wheat -amaranth, spelt etc.
3. Mill rice, lentils, split peas into flour.
4. Make cracked wheat, cracked oats.

Maybe all of this is not possible? I am particularly concerned that the grain mills seem to not be able to mill non-wheat grains and the coarse cannot be controlled. We use cracked wheat a lot. I have tried using a simple coffee grinder for it and it is hard and generates too much flour.



Milling Grain
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RE: Sources for cream color crackle subway tile? (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: prill on 07.08.2009 at 06:45 am in Kitchens Forum

Sue36 - if you to to the website and click on locations, it gives you a map of all the stores. I called Charlotte NC (figured it was closest to Mass.) and talked to Mike. He was really nice. The number is 704 504 5288. He also told me I could order right through him even though they are wholesalers. The samples I got are really beautiful.


Tile leads
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Sources for cream color crackle subway tile?

posted by: sayde on 07.07.2009 at 05:34 pm in Kitchens Forum

Have gotten a few quotes from local tile place but would welcome suggestions where to shop

Walker Zanger Gramercy Park Bone China -- lovely handmade 2 x 6 tile. Quote was $27.80 SF! Any suggestions where to shop this?

Essenze Craquelle Magnolia and Rixi Crema -- two nice 3 x 5 tiles -- one crackled and one a very interesting veined-texture in the glaze. About $10 - $15 SF. These are machine made and very nice. If only I hadn't already seen the Walker Zanger!

Johnson Studio Collection makes a crackle subway tile. I used this in a bathroom in the biscuit but the color won't work in the kitchen. I think they were between $8 and 9SF. Great tile if you want white or one of the colors they offer.

Meredith is out of business -- could not have afforded in any case . . .

Still looking . . . .may broaden to non-crackle tile with a nice flat glaze.

If anyone has any guidance on the Walker Zanger, would love to hear. . . .


Tile sources for the tiles I like.
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RE: Warm White Subway Tile (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: gabeach on 08.01.2008 at 08:12 pm in Kitchens Forum

Try Walker Zanger in the Gramercy Park line, color is Bone China. Has a crackle finish. Gorgeous. Do a search on this forum and see photos. I narrowed my selection down to that or Ann Sacks Basic line --Carpaccio or Capriccio, cannot remember the spelling now. I ended up choosing 2x4 marble; it suited my kitchen better, but it was a hard decision.


Gramercy Park 2x6 subway tile in Bone China.
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Never thought I'd say this, but... Backsplash help needed!

posted by: jsweenc on 04.15.2010 at 08:52 am in Kitchens Forum

Not because I am too proud or knowledgeable about splashes, but I really thought this one would be so straight forward that any simpleton (me) could figure it out.

Its turning out not to be quite that easy.

Tile is 3x6 Neri White beveled subway by Adex, and 1x6 quarter round liners. Grout is ice white.
Photobucket Photobucket

The windows simply have the apron down to the counter. The rest of the counter splash except the range will be beadboard like the wainscot.

I want to use full tiles on each row, so that one row ends with a full tile on each end, and the next ends on either end with exactly half a tile. If I stay only under the hood, this will be six tiles each row, and the liner will still be out beyond the 36".

I have symmetry beside the range on either side for about 15", then each side does its own thing.

My inspiration, design by Berkley Vallone, on Things That Inspire
There is a head-on shot on Vallones website but its a flash picture and I dont know how to upload those. I tried to get another window to the right of the hood but couldnt work it out, so I dont have any natural boundaries.


I have 12 sf of tile to work with.

Here are my ???

1. How do you mock up a backsplash? I know this is not the way most of you do it.

(Can you find the cat in this picture? Why are they so ubiquitous, and how do they know when you are taking a picture?)

2. I thought I was so smart, and my 3x6 tiles would fit perfectly under my 36" hood. Of course I didnt account for grout and liners. I also know this is a matter of opinion, which I am asking for now. How far out do you think I should bring it?

3. And if I bring it out past the hood, how far up? Right now I have 12 liners (those babies are pricey!), so I can cover 36" on each side but wouldn't have any to go across the top. I can get more if I decide to take it all the way up, or do a chair rail like the beadboard will have.

My original thought was to do a stainless plate for 18" up and then the tile, but since I had to get a whole box of tiles anyway, and after thinking about it both ways, I thought I'd prefer the whole thing being tile.

4. How far apart should the tiles be (i.e., how big would you make the grout lines?) And how do I do the math on that? Well, I guess thats simple, just multiply the number of lines by the thickness, right?

5. Should I have it painted under the tiles? Can't think of a good reason to, but I just don't know. The painter has said he wants to be very last.

I think that's it. Tile person is scheduled for Friday. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Happy Tax Day! : )


Nice look!

"I want to use full tiles on each row, so that one row ends with a full tile on each end, and the next ends on either end with exactly half a tile. If I stay only under the hood, this will be six tiles each row, and the liner will still be out beyond the 36"."

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RE: I need pictures of White Subway tile (Follow-Up #18)

posted by: sayde on 04.29.2010 at 10:15 pm in Kitchens Forum

The Walker Zanger crackle tile is Gramercy Park. Gorgeous and expensive. Trikeenan makes a series of tiles (Madulus) that includes crackle tiles in several whites and off white colors -- not as expensive. Johnson is an English company that also makes crackle subway tiles in white and colors. I used these in a bathroom. Both of these brands are more than the HD/Daltile but less than WZ.


A lead on tile!
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RE: I need pictures of White Subway tile (Follow-Up #17)

posted by: skoo on 04.29.2010 at 12:12 pm in Kitchens Forum

Julie - the crackle is in the tile underneath the glaze. The surface of the tile is still smooth. Kind of imagine if you took a regular tile, hit it lightly with a hammer so that you get these hairline spiderweb fractures throughout the tile, and then you glazed the tile for a smooth top finish. The crackle on the Horus Art is very subtle. Not all crackle tiles are the same, though. I had originally discarded the idea of crackle tile based on some others I had seen, but I really liked the Horus Art and also another one that I saw at Walker Zanger (the name currently escapes me, but I do remember that the Horus Art was cheaper).


This may just be the tile I'm looking for to sub for the expensive Walker Zanger Studio Moderne tile.
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RE: I need pictures of White Subway tile (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: skoo on 04.28.2010 at 12:27 pm in Kitchens Forum

I have the same tile as willow - here's a close-up where you can sort of see the crackle (it's hard to capture in a photo). The grout is white unsanded.


This looks like the Walker Zanger Studio Moderne tile that I love, except with a traditional shape. Horus tile?
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RE: Size of Recessed Lighting in Kitchen? Help Me!! (Follow-Up #13)

posted by: TorontoTim on 11.26.2011 at 09:59 am in Kitchens Forum

I put in 4" fixtures - MR16 bulbs, which you can buy LED replacements for today, so guaranteed you'll be able to do it in the future when LED's become more prevalent and economical.

I have 9 foot ceilings, and the pics below show how the lights wash on the cabinets, which go all the way to the ceiling. They can be angled/pointed in whatever direction you feel like.

Personally I don't like large recessed fixtures and I've been putting these smaller retrofit units in everywhere (made in Canada Contraste lighting CA2000D fixtures, not cheap made in China Home Depot specials).

In my 10x14 kitchen I put 10 of these fixtures around the perimeter about 10-12 inches out from the face of the upper cabinets, which allows me to angle them slightly towards the cabinet if I need to, in order to wash the face of the cabinet and light the counters. I also put 19 dimmable LED pucks inside the cabinets and for counter lighting on 2 switches - one for inside the upper glass cabinets and one for the counter lighting.







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led ucl continuation

posted by: davidtay on 12.03.2011 at 11:05 pm in Lighting Forum

Since there is quite a bit of continued discussion on LED UCL, continuation of jem199's LED UCL DIY

Here is a link that might be useful: LED UCL DIY


To be read
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LED recessed cans guide for kitchen ...

posted by: davidtay on 01.30.2012 at 01:27 am in Lighting Forum

A collection of tips/ answers
Since kitchens have higher lighting requirements, I like to use 35 lumen per sq ft as a rule to compute the number of lights. If there are additional sources of light that will be used, the output (lumens not watts) from those sources can be deducted from the total.

Placement/ layout
1. Cans should be > 24 to 30 inches from the wall (on center). Most countertop spaces have upper cabinets (typically ~ 12" deep) + crown molding. The edge of the can may be spaced ~ 12" away from the edge of the crown molding (if present or cabinet if there is no crown molding) making the average distance between 26 to 30 inches.

2. Assuming the need for a fairly uniformly lit space @ 35 lumens per sq ft, the cans may have to be spaced closer together - between 3 - 4 ft apart (if all general lighting is provided by recessed lights). A fairly regular pattern is preferable to a random layout.

3. The actual layout of cans will be impacted by the location of ceiling joists, HVAC ducting, electrical wiring, plumbing, ceiling height, fire suppression sprinklers and other obstructions above the ceiling.

The Cree LR6 series lamps do not dim as well as the later models (CR6, ...). ELV dimmers probably work better with LR6 than incandescent dimmers since the total load of the lights may not meet the minimum load requirement for the incandescent dimmer.

Dimmers such as the Lutron Diva CL dimmers work well. The max output is 95%.

Some Choices (in order of preference) and notes
Cree CR6 or ECO-575 (Home Depot branded CR6)
ECO4-575 (Home Depot branded Cree CR4 4" recessed light)
The above are only available in 2700k light color.

Cree LR6 series - including the LE6.

The Cree CR6 and LR6 lamps will not fit into 5" housings.

The standard LR6 behaves more like a surface mount than a recessed light as the LED emitters are close to the surface and the recess is shallow. Some may not like the amount of light spillage (standard LR6).

There is a higher output version of the LR6 that has a much deeper recess.

To prevent the Cree lamps from falling out, the 3 prongs have to be fully extended and a slight clockwise twist made when push installing. The slight clockwise twist will ensure that the prongs are fully extended.

The Cree lamps are currently the best available today (2012).

Sylvania RT-6, RT-4. The lights could be easier to install than Cree lamps as they utilize the torsion spring mechanism. However, the lights do not look as pleasant as the Cree lamps.

The Cree and Sylvania lamps do outperform 26W CFLs (and incandescents) in a standard recessed can in terms of light spread and output as the standard bulb in a can solution traps a significant amount of light. The Cree and Sylvania recessed lamp solutions referenced above have all the LED elements facing outwards so that the effective light output is higher.

The CRI (Color Rendition Index) of Cree and Sylvania recessed lamps > 80.

There is no warm up time required for Cree recessed lamps, unlike CFL light bulbs.

Most recessed lighting is used with flat ceilings. Sloped ceilings would require special solutions such as the LE6 or some other form of lighting (i.e. -non recessed lighting).

Some common objections to recessed can lights stem from
1. looks and performance of traditional can lights (standard bulb in a can)
2. swiss cheese effect from too many holes.


Can lights
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RE: Pictures white cabinets with Bianco Romano? (Follow-Up #15)

posted by: boxerpups on 04.08.2011 at 08:50 am in Kitchens Forum

Luna Pearl

Calcutta Gold
calcutta gold

New Venetian Gold

new venetian gold





Aurora Quartz

Aurora Quartz


Kashmir white
Kashmir White

Backsplash pic not sure the granite but look how pretty!


Ivory Elegance


White kitchens with light counters. I am not sure exactly
which type of counters they are.








White kitchens with light colored countertops
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RE: CC's high shelf option with warming lights? (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: zartemis on 04.04.2012 at 04:23 pm in Appliances Forum

The part number is BGRU-3036 and we ordered it from our local appliance dealer.

The CC has the 3" high island trim and the backguard attaches to the wall -- here's the installation pdf

Yes, our hood is 42 inches, wider than the CC. I'd highly recommend doing so especially if you get the CC with the grill. And make it 27" deep, not 24". Put it as low as you can (down to 30"). We put it at 34" but maybe could have gone lower, 33 or 32.


Warming rack
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I love the long stainless shelf above my range

posted by: segbrown on 07.06.2010 at 03:19 pm in Kitchens Forum

So, we've been using the kitchen for about 9 months now, and one of the things we have that's a little different than most is the 7-ft-long stainless shelf over the range. We have a big hood and warming lights over it. I thought I would give a report for any current kitchen planners.


Here it is with a couple of casseroles ready for the warming lights, and plenty more room:


Anyway, we use it as extra counter, storage for cooking supplies (oil -- though it's not optimal for oils, it is working--, s&p, measuring cups), storage for prep ingredients when cook ing ... The heat lamps are useful for so much -- keeping plates and dishes warm, thawing food, softening butter, keeping mugs of coffee warm while you're cooking pancakes, etc. And it's so big, we can do all these things at the same time if we need to.

The negative is that I *think* we aren't capturing quite as much in the hood as we would otherwise, but I'm not sure because we didn't have the hood before. It is certainly not a problem (smells and the like), but you'd have to think some would get lost. You could certainly make it with some holes in it if it is a worry.

Anyway, it's one of the most useful things we did, and it was only about $300, custom made. If you have the room, give it a thought.


Warming rack over range.
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RE: over the range warming shelf (Follow-Up #7)

posted by: sandn on 01.21.2011 at 01:40 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here is the photo we are using for reference from a May/June 2005 Better Homes and Garden Kitchen and Bath Ideas magazine
It's very much the same as the photo Bireland posted above.


This is a great idea for adding a warming rack on the tile backsplash
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RE: Beekeeperswife (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: beekeeperswife on 06.28.2012 at 10:24 pm in Kitchens Forum

I'm here!

Thanks for asking. The movers arrived on Monday with our stuff. Very exciting to be reunited with my things. What a thrill to have more than one pot to cook in! Got the kitchen unpacked as they were moving our stuff in. So, it was great to get one room "done". Of course, there is some tweaking to do regarding items and their locations.

Builder still has a punch list to complete. But we are so happy to be out of temporary housing. Here are some pictures.....I'll post more later.









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RE: Bluestar questions for Bluestar owners (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: beekeeperswife on 10.28.2012 at 05:37 pm in Appliances Forum

Mine is 36", 6 burners, so I'm not much help with your questions. But I do have the high backguard with a shelf. Here's a photo


a little closer up


Love this kitchen. Love the hood! Beautiful!
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Fitting Kitchen Aid KFCP22EXMP in a 36" space, bad idea?

posted by: lovetogarden_oak on 09.14.2012 at 04:01 pm in Appliances Forum

We are interested to purchase the Kitchen Aid French door 36" counterdepth fridge model KFCP22EXMP.

The trouble is the fridge width is 35 5/8" and it requires 1/2" space on either side for ventilation. That will mean I need a 36 5/8" above the fridge space.

My Inner most cabinetry comes in 33, 36 or 39" for above the fridge cabinet.

Question: if you own KFC22EXMP, how did you fit it in your space? Does it go in a 36" space or 39" space? Any thoughts how to hang the 36" above the fridge cabinet in order to make the space under it be 36 5/8" or 37?

I guess I could look at a different fridge. It's just that I can get this model for $2599 brand new at our local appliance store, which is a deal considering is MSRP is over $3000.

The salesman said not to worry about it. But,I figure I should double check with Kitchen Aid. The Kitchen aid customer service told me that the warranty will be voided if there isn't 1/2" ventilation on each side of the fridge as specified.

Thank you in advance for your help!


There are some good prices on this frig in the rest of the thread
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RE: Any good pics of off white cabinets w/ absolute black? (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: KevinMP on 09.07.2012 at 09:17 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here's a good example, which I think I like better than the more start white for my age of home. What do you think (you may want to see my other post to see what the room looks like; I'm not spending the time to post all of those again)?



Absolute black with white cabinets and stainless, and hardwood floors.
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RE: The cabinets are coming! The cabinets are coming! (Follow-Up #69)

posted by: 2LittleFishies on 11.09.2012 at 06:57 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here are some more from yesterday and tonight : )



The wall cabinet to the right of the hood has to get painted white inside for glass door.














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RE: Hood for Blue Star cooktop (Follow-Up #7)

posted by: TorontoTim on 06.17.2011 at 09:49 am in Appliances Forum

I bought the 18" high Vent-a-hood dual blower for my BlueStar (30") on eBay. Saved a ton of money, and it's very quiet.

I got it for $400 + shipping. It was used, but in perfect condition.



18 inch high Vent a Hood.
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RE: Looked At A Bluestar Range Today....WOW! (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: stooxie on 10.06.2011 at 09:14 pm in Appliances Forum


Don't be afraid of color. If a big old swatch of red is just the ticket for your kitchen I'd say do it. I put my money where my mouth is. Cobalt Blue and a backsplash to match. Notice how the electric blue fleck in the granite also picks up the color.




I love the cobalt blue! Just gorgeous with the tile!
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RE: Can someone post pictures of Buffalotina's kitchen (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: onedogedie on 10.04.2012 at 08:49 pm in Kitchens Forum

This is typing because it won't post the picture if I don't type something.


Bluestar stove, love the color!
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Pip's Kitchen - updated photos

posted by: pipdog on 02.08.2012 at 12:55 pm in Kitchens Forum

I posted my kitchen last year after our reno was mostly complete, but I never got around to taking photos of it after we got our banquette table and moved back in to the space. A friend of mine is a photographer and snapped some recent photos for us, so I thought I'd share the final, finished photos of the kitchen, one year later. Thanks again to this super helpful forum which helped us so much in this remodel!

--pip aka pipdog


Here is a link that might be useful: Original post with all the details


Beautiful kitchen! I love the Madre Perla aka Mother of Pearl, and the tile backsplash.
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Back with Finished Kitchen-creamy white & lots of windows

posted by: eks6426 on 12.03.2010 at 10:12 am in Kitchens Forum

Well, the journey took about a year but I am finally done with my kitchen remodel. We were functioning in the kitchen in early summer but there were lots of hanging details like painting trim etc. that we pushed to get done just before Thanksgiving.

A big thank you to everyone here on Garden Web who answered my many many posts. Also a bit thank you to those of you who posted your questions, stories & photos--learning from others helped a lot!

So, here are the details:

Cabinets: Custom designed by me. Crafted locally. I designed the cabinets to hold the items I wanted to store in them. The cabinet folks thought I was crazy when I would hand them a big bowl and say, "make sure it fits." But I love the cabinets and their functionality. My space is small so every little nook & cranny got used.

Hardware: Top Knobs Princetonian...Inspired by a kitchen here..can't remember who but THANK YOU! Love these handles and I love them installed all horizontally.

Granite: Antique Gold. Many trips to Chicago granite yards. This one was not my first love...that belongs to November Sky granite..but now that Antique Gold is installed I can't imagine anything else.

Windows: Replaced all windows & added some. Windows down to the countertop are one of my favorite things. The granite guys added a tiny granite edge in front of the windows which looks really nice too.

Sinks: Kohler Cast Iron Smart Divide in biscuit (main sink) & Kohler cast Iron prep sink. Prep sink turned out to be larger than planned because the granite guys cut the hole too big. In the end, I am really happy with the smaller sink. Many people commented that I wouldn't need/use the prep sink in such a small kitchen and that the location at the end of a countertop run wasn't great...But it is the main thing that helps my kitchen function well for 2 cooks. I am super glad that I stuck to what I wanted on this one!

Faucets: Kohler Simplice pull-outs. Simple & effective. So far no problems. Also have Kohler soap dispenser with a Never M-T...fabulous invention! Garbage disposal air switches..couldn't live without these.

Instant Hot--LOVE LOVE LOVE this feature..especially as the weather is getting colder. I drink lots of tea. Hubby drinks coffee. He bought a French press for coffee and uses the instant hot. No more electric coffee pot clutter...great bonus!

Stove--Dacor 36" 6 burner range. 36" stove is fabulous. I rarely use all the burners but I love all the spreading out space.

Shelving in front of windows. I know this is strange but it really works for me. They are basic wire shelves. They could span 6' without a center support. It's very nice not having to open drawers/cabinets to get out pans and every day dishes.

Flooring--oak flooring. Flooring wasn't supposed to change. I had tile that was decent but it cracked so we ripped out the tile (what a job!) and had oak flooring put in...the rest of my house is hardwood so we had the flooring integrated with the adjacent rooms. I am so glad the tile cracked...hard wood is wonderful.

Range hood--Kobe with custom built surround. First range hood I have had that vents outside...It actually works! It isn't as quiet as I would have liked but it still works great.

I think these are the basics. If there is anything else you want to know about, let me know.




foyer entrance


Granite, Antique Gold
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My finished kitchen (lots of pics)

posted by: Staceydux on 03.18.2012 at 02:15 pm in Kitchens Forum

I finally got around to taking pics of my kitchen. Unfortunately, I lost my nice camera during the renovation so these pics are taken with my old Blackberry. The quality does not do the kitchen justice. Anyway, here are the details:
1)Kitchen designer - The Cabinetry in Hingham, MA (Marlene was awesome to work with)
2)Contractor-Bob Burr Remodeling in Carver, MA
3)Cabinets - Perimeter cabinets by Medallion style Potter's Mill in Divinity. 2 Islands by Medallion, style Potter's Mill in Cherry with a Wheat finish.
4)Refrigerator - Thermador built-in 36 inch - paneled
5)Oven-GE Profile
6)Cooktop - Thermodor 5 burner
7)Hood- By XO
8)Trash Compactor-Kitchen Aid - paneled
9)Dishwasher - Kitchen Aid (we already had the DW)
10)Microwave Drawer by Sharp
11)Sink by Artisan - love this huge modern double sink
12)Faucet by Grohe
13)Pulls by Atlas - Sutton Place in Polished Chrome
14)Knobs by Atlas - Sutton Place Square Knobs in Polished Chrome
15)Counterop-Polished Colonial Gold Granite
16)Pendants over large island from Lowes (can't remember make)
17)Light over small island - by Solaris
18)Backsplash-White subway tiles by Oceanside glass in iridescent color Oxygen.
19)Backsplash color tiles - by Sonoma Tile - Style Vihara in Kahuna - iridescent tiles
20)Counter stools by New Pacific style Dylan in Creme. I need 1 more but this color has been discontinued.
21)Paint Color-Walls are Benjamin Moore in Feather Gray; Trim is Benjamin Moore custom color to match cabinets.
22)The legs next to the sink and on the island were ordered from the KD. Not sure of who makes them.

I think that covers it. Again, the pictures are poor quality because my phone takes poor pictures.

These were my helpers and troublemakers through the entire renovation:

This is 1 of 2 islands. This is the smaller island and is used for prep work:


This is the larger of the 2 islands. My husband, kids and I spend most of our time at this island. It's 9 feet. We still need 1 more counterstool:




Nice combo of granite and tile~
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RE: Pip's Finished Kitchen! Lots of pics (Follow-Up #93)

posted by: pipdog on 10.20.2011 at 04:01 pm in Kitchens Forum

Jen, I am so sorry I am just now seeing this. My contractor was Dannick Design and we were thrilled with them.

Cindy, the cabinet between the sink and the stove has a skinny cabinet for cookie sheets, then a pull-out trash/recycling bin and a lazy susan/half moon contraption.
Looking back on these old photos before all the decorating, banquette table and rugs makes me realize i need to post some new photos! Photobucket

Here is a link that might be useful: Dannick Design


Love it!
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98.627% Finished Kitchen - Transitional White Inset w/ glass til

posted by: theanimala on 03.24.2010 at 08:27 pm in Kitchens Forum

After reading this site daily for 6 months now and getting tons of great advice it's time for us to post our finished kitchen. In keeping with the style of the house we needed to go more modern than traditional, but we didn't want something too contemporary. Also, we couldn't decide on painted or stained cabinets, so we decided to do both by painting the perimeter while having the island stained.
Although we moved no walls, it ended up being a bigger project then we expected as the old tile floor went through our foyer, powder room and laundry room. Also didn't have correct sub-flooring, and we wanted to move some of the appliances around, etc. The reason the it is only 98.627% completed, is we still have 1.373% left to do, such as glass shelves in glass front doors so in cabinet lighting can shine all the way through, etc.


Cabinets - Inset Shiloh Homestead painted MB Softwhite, Island Maple stained Espresso
Flooring - Tile Fashion Coffee 12 x 24
Countertops - Caesarstone Raven, Ceasarstone Misty Carrera - Mitred Edge
Main Sink - Franke 33" SS Apron - FHX710-33S
Main Faucet - Generic Costco Brand
Prep Sink - Elkay - ELU1618
Prep Faucet - Danze Como Pulldown
Refrigerator - JennAir CD FD - JFC2089HES
Ovens - Electrolux - EW30EW65GS
Warming Drawer - Electrolux - EW30WD55GS
Microwave - Electrolux - EL27MO45GS
Cooktop - DCS 36" Drop-in - CTD-365
Hood - Bosch - DKE9365AUC
Beverage Center - GE Monogram - ZDBC240NBS
Dishwasher - Bosch
Backsplash - White Glass subway tile from
Backsplash - Stainless Steel 1x2 tiles
Pulls - TopKnobs - Princetonian
Paint - BM 1542 Himalayan Trek






Sink Area:







Island - Backside:


Pantry Area - Closed:


Pantry - Open:


Lazy Suzan - Corner Pullout:


A big thank you to everyone who gave such great advice over the past few months. If anyone has any questions on what we like /dislike please let us know.


I love the kitchen! Great cabinets, tile, storage!
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RE: White cabinets - the cumulative effect (Follow-Up #14)

posted by: TorontoTim on 01.15.2012 at 10:25 am in Kitchens Forum

We went with Cloud White on our cabinets (we went with MDF doors vs maple even at the same price as you don't get the shrinking/cracking on the doors that you will get on maple).

White cabinets, white marble counters, white marble backsplash, Cloud White on the wood trim, Cloud White on the walls.

Yep - everything is white. 10 x 50w halogen recessed lights and 19 warm-white LED pucks, all dimmable.

We have a small 1920's 15 foot wide, 40 foot long house. 9 foot ceilings, and the kitchen is 10 x 15 feet. We have some exposed brick on the main floor off the kitchen, but aside from that we painted out the entire main floor in Cloud White, walls and trim.

Makes the whole space feel bigger and brighter. I treat the walls as background for our artwork, decorative items etc. Think of the walls in an art gallery - white.






I love this kitchen!
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14 Hours and 15 minutes to go...

posted by: beekeeperswife on 04.26.2012 at 05:49 pm in Kitchens Forum

....until Dutchwood shows up with my cabinets at the new house.

I can hardly wait. I feel like I am 5 years old and tomorrow is Christmas morning. In fact, I'm tempted to go to bed early so the morning comes faster.

I really am 5 again.



Gorgeous kitchen! Great cabinets!
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Finally my kitchen post

posted by: TorontoTim on 06.24.2012 at 01:57 pm in Kitchens Forum

We more or less finished the kitchen a year back (still a couple of trim pieces I've been procrastinating on) so figured it was time to post up some before during and afters.

The room is about 11 x 15 total. We had to work around a chimney bricked on one wall, hence the shallow-depth little base and glass wall cabinet you see in the pics on the 'pantry wall'. The chimney is behind that.

I did the demo work (I pulled out 20 yards of material) myself. The house is 90 years old, and has drywall on top of lathe/plaster in many rooms hence the volume of material. I took it down to the bones and hired someone to build it back to plywood subfloor and drywall. Sub'd out the plumbing and electrical work, got someone to brick in the exterior window to shorten it up, allowing cabinets to run under it. New awning style window allows maximum light and we can open it in the rain.

I then did the hardwood through the entire main floor, after pulling up all the 90 year old plank subfloor and replacing it with 3/4" plywood glued and screwed to the old floor joists (which I blocked as well).

Found a local cabinet maker to do the cabinets (cheaper than buying from Home Depot etc.), had mable counters put in, marble back splash, new appliances (KA counter depth fridge, KA DW, Bluestar range, 2nd hand Vent-a-Hood I scored on eBay. The fridge and stove were the big appliance splurges, costing more than they needed to but well worth the expense.

I also did all the trim work myself - 9 inch baseboards and fresh trim around the doors and windows replicating the 90 year old trim in the rest of the main floor. I've since ripped out the basement bath and floor to deal with some underground drain repairs and did the same downstairs with a new bath - save that for another post.

























Nice kitchen with BlueStar stove
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Who else is trying to decide between Culinarian and Blue Star?

posted by: sayde on 07.05.2010 at 08:26 am in Appliances Forum

Would love to hear why you are going one way or the other. . . .

The merits of both have been elaborated here in many threads. And yet, it still seems a tough call. I have seen the "old" Blue Star, but not the new V1, and not the CC in person.

Following is a purely personal assessment -- and doesn't consider looks or cost. Looks are a subjective preference; cost depends on how you configure.

The positives for Capital -- fit, finish, the company, seems eager to have a great product and make customers happy -- this applies to both Capital and Eurostoves. Being able to buy from Trevor is a huge plus. The rotisserie/self clean is not something I would buy so for me personally doesn't play.

The positives for Blue Star --The design of the grates -- I still think it is a better design for taking apart and cleaning. I'll let the experts debate which has a better design for wokking. Here we're into the angels on the head of a pin, IMO. Both are good. Same for power and flame distribution.

The big questions -- how much of the Blue Star oven problem is resolved with V1?


Food for thought!
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RE: Shiloh Cabinets - quality - and other ? (Follow-Up #15)

posted by: pps7 on 12.06.2011 at 07:50 pm in Kitchens Forum

here are a few pics. I love the polar white!

Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos

Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos


Shiloh cabinets
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Install considerations: Replacing KA dishwasher with Miele in FL

posted by: purpleplume on 07.19.2012 at 02:46 pm in Kitchens Forum

I am ordering a Miele Futura dishwasher (either Dimension Plus or Diamond) to replace a KA. In reading through the Miele DW threads on this forum, I've learned several things I didn't know, which should help my install go more smoothly. Thanks to the wonderfully detailed posts on this forum, I am better prepared.

1) Thanks to antss:
While the KA is typically hardwired, Miele requires an electrical outlet, which I--fortunately--have existing on the back wall beneath the sink base cabinet, to the right of the DW space.

2) Thanks to antsss:
While the KA requires a full 24" wide installation space, Miele needs only 60 cm or 23 5/8" in width. Since I am going with the prefinished Clean Touch Steel front, I don't mind the resultant small gap between the sides of the DW and the adjacent cabinetry.

3) Thanks to fauguy:
Good to know that 4 longer side-mount install screws will be required since my Miele is going into an existing 24"W space.

4) Thanks to fauguy:
Wow, I have lived in South Florida for 25+ years, redone a kitchen, and never knew about New York Minute appliance delivery and installation. Even though I will have a 5 yr warranty from Miele, I truly appreciate you mentioning their excellent service on the forum. I called and learned they are contracted with my dealer to do installs, so I have requested that ours be done by them.

5) Thanks to antsss:
From one of your posts, I learned that Miele plumbing is now hooked up with a standard 3/8" flexible hose. You need only provide a shutoff/stop for it to attach to. Hot is typical but you may consider a cold feed if your model has a china and crystal program.

Since the China/Crystal program is important to me, should I request my installer hook the DW up to the cold feed? I seem to recall Miele is designed to heat the water to the requisite cycle temp without the user having to run the hot water tap for a while prior to starting the cycle. I hope this is correct because I prefer to use the delayed start feature and have the DW run at night, after we go to sleep.

6) The other question I have is whether an additional cabinet cutout is required. I'm posting a photo here of the existing cutouts below my kitchen sink. There are three of them on the back wall; in addition to the two visible here, there is another small one to the left of the small one in the photo, which mirrors the size and height of the small one shown here.

I suspect the extra cutout is no longer required since Miele has apparently reconfigured their hookup to use a standard 3/8" flexible hose, but I would like to confirm whether this is in fact the case. I would be disappointed to have to delay the install date if the installer shows up and states that a cabinet worker must further prep my site before the DW install can progress.

Many thanks to all for this excellent information!


Good info to know if installing a Miele!
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RE: Help me pick a 30 inch undermount SS sink (Follow-Up #8)

posted by: boxerpups on 12.24.2009 at 09:27 am in Kitchens Forum

I like the Oliveri
Undermount. 30L, 18W and 10 deep. (with my thick
granite counters being almost 11.5 inches deep)
Brushed stainless steel, Some insulation to be quiet.

Oliveri makes sinks with any configuation you like.
They make industrial size, european style and ....
grids, cutting boards, sink racks, insert tubs....

This is the sink I chose and love it.


Possible sink?
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Kitchen finished! White cabs, quartzite, leathered black. Whew!

posted by: babs711 on 07.14.2012 at 12:25 am in Kitchens Forum

We moved into our new build about three weeks ago. While I say the kitchen (and house) are complete, some things are missing that need to be done like counter stools that aren't here yet, a window seat cushion, upholstered chairs at the table that will be ordered, BLADES for the living room ceiling fan that aren't in yet. I've hardly hung a thing on the walls and am working on window treatments now. You get the picture! But we're in! And the months of planning and stewing are over! So here are some pics of the kitchen/dining/living room. I'm sure I'll have updates as I go.

Cabinets: Eudora Frameless
Island countertop: White Macaubus Quartzite
Perimeter countertop: Leathered Absolute Black Granite
Sink: Kohler Riverby Cast Iron
Faucet: Moen Woodmere in Stainless
Hardware on solid doors/drawers: Amerock Highland Ridge in polished nickel
Glass knobs and Bin Pulls in polished nickel: Van Dyke's
Range & Dishwasher: Thermador
Refrigerator: Kitchenaid Pro
Refrigerator Drawers: Electrolux
Sharp Microwave Drawer

Close up of the tile. It's hard to get an accurate color since it's so glossy. It's more blue/green than portrayed in pics:

I was standing on a chair when I took this. I feel like it makes the dining table look like toy furniture! Ha!

Behold...the unfinished bar and the fan with no blades. We live in the deep judging the fan! Behind those closed doors lies my DH's very unfinished man cave.

And you'd know that the day after I took these, my new sofa cushion inserts came in. It's all fluffy and new looking again. Oh well!

The Pantry is actually the same color as the entry you see right past the range wall in the kitchen (BM Gray Wisp). But I didn't use a flash so it looks funky here:


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GrumpyDave's happy new kitchen

posted by: grumpydave on 04.28.2012 at 04:31 pm in Kitchens Forum

My kitchen renovation started in December and was supposed to be done in one month. Well, that stretched to nearly four months but now it's done!

This is NOT your typical GW white OTK. For a detailed running commentary with TONS of photos go here:

GrumpyDave's new kitchen

Here's the before with bleached oak, blue Corian, and blah tile:

And here's the after:

The old desk converted to a buffet is much more useful.

Blanco Supersingle thanks to the GW forums.

No more blind corners.

Built-in spice cabinet.

Two Super Susans.

On my web page I detail how all the drawers are used. I used to have ALL my utensils in one drawer with no dividers. It was a jumbled mess. Now I can split them between prep utensils in the island and cooking utensils under the cooktop. The organizers keep everything tidy.

My new "everyday" dishes. Dress them up. Dress them down. They go with everything.

Many thanks to everyone on Gardenweb. Lurking here for most of a year taught me a lot and helped me make the right choices.

Product Details

Floor tileKulture Woodland porcelain tile purchased from Arizona Tile. The new tile floor may very well be my favorite part of the whole project.

CabinetsSchrock Brantley in Cinnamon Cherry.

Cabinet hardwareAmerock Essential'Z pulls in satin nickel.
Amerock knobs in the 10 for $20 blister pack, satin nickel.

CountertopCambria quartz in Coswell Cream.

Backsplash tile4x4" Emperador Light tumbled marble bought from Arizona Tile. I was planning for more of a Crema Marfil look but the designer at the tile store convinced me to go with Emperador Light instead. Was she right? Probably.

SinkBlanco Precis Super Single Silgranit sink in Cafe Brown with color matched strainer and fitted stainless steel grid.

FaucetKWC Systema in stainless steel.

Soap dispenserMoen 3942 in classic stainless connected to a Never M/T.

RefrigeratorElectrolux EI23BC36IS counter depth french door with IQ touch. A bit of a gamble with all the bad reviews out there, but the vast majority of complaints are for the in-door water/ice dispenser which I don't have. Thus far this refrigerator has been perfect.

Wall ovenElectrolux ICON E30EW75GSS Designer series 30" single wall oven with wave-touch controls.

Microwave ovenElectrolux ICON E30SO75ESS Designer series high-speed oven. Never used one before but those who have them love them.

CooktopBosch NIT5665UC 500 Series 36" induction cooktop.

DishwasherMiele G5705SC Futura Dimension Plus.

Range HoodKobe CH2236SQB

Drawer linersCombination of Cushy Cupboards and Easyliner Solid in taupe. I actually prefer the Easyliner despite CC being all the rage on the Gardenweb. It's available locally and a lot cheaper to boot.

Drawer organizersMadeSmart bins in granite. Bought at Bed Bath & Beyond. They look great and they were pleasantly inexpensive too. The sizes are a bit inflexible when trying to completely outfit a drawer but in general they worked out just fine.

Overhead lightingSix CREE CR6 LED retrofit fixtures. I love these so much I replaced all the can lights in my house with them.

Undercabinet lightingHigh brightness premium LED light bars from

Soffit lightingI tried the 4" version of the CREE CR6 LED lights mentioned above but I think I'm going to switch back to standard PAR20 bulbs. The LEDs made for great task lighting but I get enough of that with the overhead and undercabinet lights. The soffit lights lend themselves more to soft ambient mood lighting where the incandescants excel.

CookwareDemeyere Atlantis series stainless and Scanpan CTX series non-stick. Although not technically part of the new kitchen, the change in cooktop from convection to induction required that I get all new cookware. I'm really looking forward to trying some top notch cookware for once. I certainly could have spent a lot less, and I probably will as I supplement with additional pieces down the road.

DinnerwareBryan China bright white wide rim china with a few Food Network brand bowls in Buttercream from Kohl's. Again, not technically part of the new kitchen but who wants to use chipped old dishes in their brand new kitchen? :)


Great storage!
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Finished kitchen soapstone and quartzite

posted by: Shareher on 07.17.2012 at 09:29 am in Kitchens Forum

We are finally mostly done. Thanks to everyone for their input, particularly for the layout and countertop selection.

I'm going to post a few pictures sequentially because this seems to be the easiest way.

Perimeter counters are soapstone.
Island counter is white quartzite.
Island paint is SW porpoise.
Cabinet paint is BM revere pewter.
Range is Bluestar (love it!)
Kitchenaid dishwasher and fridge.

So nice to have a kitchen again!


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RE: Capital Culinarian - Hood Capability Questions (Follow-Up #22)

posted by: DelawareKitchen on 07.15.2012 at 12:08 am in Appliances Forum

Can you help me (and perhaps others) add some steps to the 'hood size guidelines' to think through hood size for the Capital Culinarian 36" rangetop, or one of the other 'monster' home rangetops (e.g., Bluestar, Viking, Wolf,...)

The usual rule of thumb I've seen is:
100 CFM / 1,000 BTU rangetop
Width same as rangetop, preferably 6" wider (e.g., (36", 42" better)
Depth same as rangetop, preferably 3" deeper (e.g., 24", 27" better)

The problem is that it is extremely unlikely we'll run the Capital at its full 138K BTU (or any of its monster brethren).

Does the following make sense, or can those knowledgeable improve on it?
At top actual use, we'll be using:
1 Burner wok = 23K BTU
1 Burner soup/ water boil = 23K BTU, but limited need for venting, call it 10K
4 Burners Realistic Max Average = 10K BTU (e.g., 1* 15K averages w/ 1 simmer)
Total Effective = 73K BTU, and thus need 730 CFM Hood

Suppose we do the 'best practice' of turning the hood on a couple minutes prior to any 'high-vent need cooking' such as wok cooking.
If the range top is against a back wall, would we then be comfortable with the 730 CFM fan in a 36x24" hood?
If the range top is in an island, would we then be comfortable with the 730 CFM fan in a 42x 27" hood, as long as we limit any activities that would cause strong drafts in the kitchen during wok cooking (e.g., opening the door from kitchen to patio.)

In our case, we're looking at 6 burners, no grill or other top.

We look forward to your help.


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Capital Culinarian - About to buy questions.

posted by: Takkone on 04.04.2012 at 10:15 am in Appliances Forum

Saw the CC at a local appliance store and I really like it. Did a lot of research on these forums and only a few concerns remain. Hopefully you can put me at ease, or direct me to a different range that would suit me better. I'm looking at either the 30" or 36" with all burners free standing range, manual clean:

1. The racks. All I can fit under the broiler on the top rack is a cookie sheet. I read some threads that this may have changed with recent production models, but then read conflicting posts where others say only a shelf was added and the top rack position has not changed from the original. Please tell me what the current production model racks are like!

2. Can I use small pots and pans on the CC burners? I have two little kids, infant and toddler, so I am often cooking a little pasta or veggies in a small 1 Qt saucepan. Is that pot going to tilt or get hung up on the grate openings if it is not on-center all the time? I notice the openings on the grates are pretty large. (BTW - often cooking one meal for adults and one for kids, I'm really leaning towards the 36" range for the extra burners. Please chime in on that too!)

3. Simmer temp. - Similar to the above, some nights here are just jar of pasta sauce with some pasta. Or I'm cooking for two and have small quantities or sauce or chili or stew in a small 1.5 Qt saucepan. Because of the diaper changes and 3 year old "melt downs" seem to always occur right when dinner is ready, I often have to keep things warm on a very low simmer, so the rest of the family can get themselves to the table (seems like a 20 minute affair some nights!) Will I scorch our dinners?

4. I know I'm leaning towards 36" with 6 burners, but who has the griddle and can't live without it? My current plan is to get a nice heavy 14" x 23" griddle pan and use that on top of a 6 burner range. But lugging it in and out of storage may prevent it from getting much use.

Just a little bit about me, if it helps. I am not a professional chef. But when I was younger I worked summer jobs in a few restaurants (prep cook, dishwasher, bus boy) and I totally got bit by the foodie bug. So I've been around and have used some professional equipment. I would consider cooking one of my hobbies, not a chore. I make my own stocks, I make dishes that start on the stove top and finish in the oven/broiler. I do stir fry (although very limited with current range). So I think a pro-style stove for me is not just for looks (although I can't pretend that is not part of it), I'm going to use the heck out of this thing!

What about the 36" oven vs the 30" oven? Are the pre-heat times very different, anyone put a stopwatch on this?

I know I will probably never need more than two high output burners on my stove. But I like the CC flexibility to not have those burners positions preset by a factory. When I stir fry, I want high heat in front. Boiling pasta, high heat in back. Boiling pasta AND searing protein, I want to be diagonal corner to corner.

And seems like the CC gets all the love, with the Precision model not talked about much. Based on the above, would you recommend one over the other?


Capital Culinarian in consideration.
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Brand New Galley Kitchen!!

posted by: mfnJsb0809 on 06.30.2012 at 09:29 pm in Kitchens Forum

Hello all:
Long time lookey loo! I just completed a galley kitchen remodel- hope you enjoy!! These via my iphone so quality of pics and lighting not great!



Just what I want for my cabinets!
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RE: How well does Soapstone/Slate do as countertop?? (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: weidiii on 01.18.2010 at 03:30 pm in Kitchens Forum

Kaiden...I live in Richmond, soapstone was locally quarried, cut onsite and installed for about $53 a square foot



I worked with VAsoapstone, the sink cutout and edging were included, I might be off 2 or 3 dollars on the square foot price but not was cheaper than the middle of the road granite I considered

their website is

The quarry is near Charlottesville (Alberene Soapstone Company)

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