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LED recessed cans guide for kitchen ...

posted by: davidtay on 01.30.2012 at 01:27 am in Lighting Forum

A collection of tips/ answers
Since kitchens have higher lighting requirements, I like to use 35 lumen per sq ft as a rule to compute the number of lights. If there are additional sources of light that will be used, the output (lumens not watts) from those sources can be deducted from the total.

Placement/ layout
1. Cans should be > 24 to 30 inches from the wall (on center). Most countertop spaces have upper cabinets (typically ~ 12" deep) + crown molding. The edge of the can may be spaced ~ 12" away from the edge of the crown molding (if present or cabinet if there is no crown molding) making the average distance between 26 to 30 inches.

2. Assuming the need for a fairly uniformly lit space @ 35 lumens per sq ft, the cans may have to be spaced closer together - between 3 - 4 ft apart (if all general lighting is provided by recessed lights). A fairly regular pattern is preferable to a random layout.

3. The actual layout of cans will be impacted by the location of ceiling joists, HVAC ducting, electrical wiring, plumbing, ceiling height, fire suppression sprinklers and other obstructions above the ceiling.

The Cree LR6 series lamps do not dim as well as the later models (CR6, ...). ELV dimmers probably work better with LR6 than incandescent dimmers since the total load of the lights may not meet the minimum load requirement for the incandescent dimmer.

Dimmers such as the Lutron Diva CL dimmers work well. The max output is 95%.

Some Choices (in order of preference) and notes
Cree CR6 or ECO-575 (Home Depot branded CR6)
ECO4-575 (Home Depot branded Cree CR4 4" recessed light)
The above are only available in 2700k light color.

Cree LR6 series - including the LE6.

The Cree CR6 and LR6 lamps will not fit into 5" housings.

The standard LR6 behaves more like a surface mount than a recessed light as the LED emitters are close to the surface and the recess is shallow. Some may not like the amount of light spillage (standard LR6).

There is a higher output version of the LR6 that has a much deeper recess.

To prevent the Cree lamps from falling out, the 3 prongs have to be fully extended and a slight clockwise twist made when push installing. The slight clockwise twist will ensure that the prongs are fully extended.

The Cree lamps are currently the best available today (2012).

Sylvania RT-6, RT-4. The lights could be easier to install than Cree lamps as they utilize the torsion spring mechanism. However, the lights do not look as pleasant as the Cree lamps.

The Cree and Sylvania lamps do outperform 26W CFLs (and incandescents) in a standard recessed can in terms of light spread and output as the standard bulb in a can solution traps a significant amount of light. The Cree and Sylvania recessed lamp solutions referenced above have all the LED elements facing outwards so that the effective light output is higher.

The CRI (Color Rendition Index) of Cree and Sylvania recessed lamps > 80.

There is no warm up time required for Cree recessed lamps, unlike CFL light bulbs.

Most recessed lighting is used with flat ceilings. Sloped ceilings would require special solutions such as the LE6 or some other form of lighting (i.e. -non recessed lighting).

Some common objections to recessed can lights stem from
1. looks and performance of traditional can lights (standard bulb in a can)
2. swiss cheese effect from too many holes.


clipped on: 01.22.2013 at 01:42 pm    last updated on: 01.22.2013 at 01:42 pm

Top ways to save $$$ when building/designing a new home

posted by: jbc1-jax on 01.09.2013 at 10:08 pm in Building a Home Forum

Ideas we have so far:

Carpet in upstairs bedrooms
Put powder room against wall of master bath to share plumbing lines
No oversize stairs
Lower ceilings on 2nd floor
No tub in master bath

Other ideas or thoughts?????



clipped on: 01.17.2013 at 03:09 pm    last updated on: 01.17.2013 at 03:09 pm

Do's and don't 101: Cabinets

posted by: jbc1-jax on 01.11.2013 at 10:51 pm in Building a Home Forum

We are building a new home and met with the cabinet guy today. What do you suggest to are lessons learned when it comes to doing cabinets?

Also, is there an approximate square footage that exists for a family of 4 (heated area only)?

Lastly, what are the best ways to stay on or below budget in regards to cabinets?

Many thanks for your responses.


clipped on: 01.17.2013 at 02:48 pm    last updated on: 01.17.2013 at 02:48 pm

Things you wish you knew BEFORE you built....

posted by: carsonheim on 01.03.2013 at 04:00 pm in Building a Home Forum

Howdy folks!

I'm new 'round these parts. Getting ready to embark on our new home build. We are building virgins, so -- of course-- are a little nervous about the whole project, but are also very excited.

We are building a modification of the ever-popular Abberley Lane plan by John Tee. We're located in College Station, TX and are planning on being owner-builders.

So I hope some of you will help us out and post in this thread some of the things you wish you knew BEFORE you built, or would do differently now that you have built.

Thanks for the comments, and I'm looking forward to contributing to the community!



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New here - building our first home - any advice welcome!

posted by: littlemrslarge on 01.14.2013 at 03:39 pm in Building a Home Forum

Hey all! I've been browsing the forums here for a few weeks - so much wisdom and experience here that I thought I'd join and ask some questions!

We are in the early stages of planning our first home. We are in our late 20s and currently live in employer-provided housing (on a college campus) so we have been saving up all the money we don't have to spend on rent and can take our time planning this out. We are about to close on a land loan for 5 acres in an agricultural-zoned neighborhood - about 2 acres of that is buildable, the rest is hills/wooded or in a designated floodplain (although it's unlikely to flood, the county says we can't build there.) We have looked at hundreds of floor plans and interior options and all sorts of things, and are getting overwhelmed by it all! Our budget is around 150-175k for a ~2000 sq.ft. home (thankfully we live in a low-cost area in the South). We do have a pretty good idea of what we want to do:

- one-story with unfinished basement, likely including a built-in "safe room"/storm shelter area (we can finish the basement at a later time)
- 3-4 bedrooms
- side-entry garage (the angled type, not facing the same way as the front door)
- large kitchen with a lot of workspace
- open layout
- separate laundry/utility room
- storage!

We plan to do quite a bit of the finishing ourselves to save money - we are both fairly handy and quick to learn things. I figure we can install the flooring (hardwood/tile, maybe carpet?), do all the painting, install light fixtures, do the landscaping, things like that. Maybe drywalling too. What's reasonable to do yourself and what should the professionals definitely handle?

Anyway, my biggest question right now is... once we have our names on the land (hopefully next week!), what are the next steps we need to take - in order?? Who do we talk to first - builder, county, etc? What will we have to pay out-of-pocket for that isn't included in construction financing? What should we be thinking about at this stage?

Thanks for your help!


clipped on: 01.17.2013 at 02:44 pm    last updated on: 01.17.2013 at 02:44 pm

Most carefree materials

posted by: MarvinTheCat on 01.08.2013 at 12:58 pm in Building a Home Forum

I am new to the forum, have been lurking on the background and reading for many months. I have a question that I could not find answered, but if it has been, I apologize in advance.

My question is: what are the most carefree materials and appliances for the house? What is the tiles for the bathroom that won't show the soap traces and hard water for longest? What are the sinks and vanities that do look OK (i.e. not dirty) for longest, under the same average usage? Materials, colors, etc? The same abt kitchen: sink, floors, cabinet door material, color, etc?

A short explanation: we are building a condo and expect to move in in the end of the year. Now we are in the stage of choosing appliances, etc, and I have spent a good part of the last few months reading and looking at the house remodeling and building forums, books and shops. For Christmas we stayed with our friends in their second house, and we had a bathroom with beautiful blue ceramic vanity and all the rest was in the same color hue. It was really beautiful, but after a day of light usage the vanity and bathtub looked really dirty: water stains (perhaps from water from the well) left white traces, etc. There was no other way to maintain the bathroom in a nice state but only clean it every day.

I do not want to do the same in my own house. I do like nice and funky things and I can clean, but I must have the surfaces and appliance that can tolerate some neglect when I am busy or not in a mood, etc.

Thank you very much for reading! I am looking forward to learning even more from the forum and possibly contributing if I can.



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Have a personal build blog? Link it here!

posted by: sweet.reverie on 10.03.2012 at 10:52 pm in Building a Home Forum

I have LOVED looking through all the blogs that have been linked in various posts. I don't know anyone in 'real life' who has built or is building, so this forum and these blogs have become my own little support system!

So if you have a blog from a past, current or future build, link it here! I would love to read it. :)

Don't be shy!

I will link mine too but it is pretty boring since we have not broken ground yet...

Here is a link that might be useful: My Blog


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I am building a house....i have no idea what i am doing :)

posted by: ffingers on 01.17.2013 at 02:28 pm in Building a Home Forum

Have stumbled upon this board many times prior when looking up other things (family is the DIY type)...and my wife and I are finally gearing up to build....

a little background...

Wife and i have been wanting to do this for years, but due to finances, no idea of location, etc. it was always a dream but no real steps other than wishful forward to september of this year and we close on property!!!

It's perfect, down the street from where we are now with better schools (have two little boys) and still close to family (REALLY close)...we got it for a's 1.2 acres in a near suburb of Chicago with a tiny farm house on it....

we are currently renting the tiny house on the land and currently have a one year lease with the tenants...we did some minor rehab on the house but nothing major....we are now starting the ACTUAL planning stages. i have read a ton on here about planning and more planning, then finally....some more planning. Good news is both my wife and I are good planners and have already picked out a ton of things and pictures of what we want etc. so we are starting off on a good note!

we did go see a design-builder that pretty much offered white glove service on high end custom homes....along with the white glove service came a white glove price that I don't think I am willing to pay before shopping around a ton. Problem is, we want to build a custom home, not plans (although we do have a set of base plans we LOVE). So we are currently looking for architects or designers to draw up plans for our land and for what we are looking for.

we have a ton to do and are in the infancy stages of all this considering we are planning to build late next year, but we want to be as prepared as we can.

just wanted to introduce myself as I no doubt will have questions and would love to share our progress!

if you are interested, i am going to *try* and keep a blog going about the entire's here if you're interested...

thank you for what i know will be a warm welcome and i look forward to the conversations!


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