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Height of Sub panel/Electrical Box

posted by: cutter2010 on 07.15.2010 at 11:31 pm in Pools & Spas Forum

Just noticed that the height of my pool subpanel is going to only be about 12 inches above ground once final grade is established. Anyone know what the standard height of a sub panel is? How high is yours from the ground?

Before I ask (or demand) my PB to move it, wanted to get some feedback. What I think happened is the electrician made an honest mistake not realizing the grade was going to be higher. Not sure how he would think that considering the equipment is proped higher but trying to give the benefit of the doubt. I know it's going to be a mini battle with the PB so wanted to check with my favorite forum on the matter.

I have two concerns. With saftey in mind, snow will cover the panel in the winter. Wouldn't mositure get in and cause potential long term problems? My second concern is convenience. I would have to sit on the ground to make changes in the panel.

Do I have a valid beef or am I overreacting?

Thanks

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Help with Pool Fence Code

posted by: cutter2010 on 07.09.2010 at 08:15 pm in Pools & Spas Forum

Here's my current deal. One part of the yard is about to have a retaining wall built where a step up fence would go.

My town has a 5 foot regulation and this exact area where the step up would occur is not 5 Feet. For example, the child could be on wall and the height of the wall would only be 3.5 feet at this very point.

Anyone have any ideas on how to get this to code?

I am debating on not putting in a wall in this area and just grading it so the fence goes up the grade maintaining a consistant five feet. Would rather not break up the wall though. The view you are seeing below is more of a cross view as the fence intersects with the wall. The wall is being built Mon/Tues of next week.

Thanks for any suggestions.

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New Pool Build in Northeast. Need Advice

posted by: cutter2010 on 05.03.2010 at 04:03 pm in Pools & Spas Forum

First off, this forum has provided me with a wealth of info for a new pool we are looking to build this summer. Thanks so much for the info.

We are in the final stages of negotiation with three companies in Massachusetts and would love anyone's feedback on:

1) Feedback on 3 Pool Builders in Mass
2) What are the gotchas?
3) Do we really need the extras?

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1) Pool Builders in Mass
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We've received quotes and proposals and narrowed down our choice to the following three companies. We've been happy with all three so looking for any inside info. Pricewise everyone has been about the same except EP which has been higher.

- Pools by Andrews
- Environmental Pools
- South Shore Gunite

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2) What are the gotchas?
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Additionally, what are the "gotchas" we should be looking for when getting quotes that could make the difference in our decision? Extra electrical, # of returns, cleaning system, etc

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QUOTE EXAMPLE - Approx 40K w Spa
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Pavers/Stamped Concrete, Fence not included (all about $12SF for Stamped and $14-15 for pavers)

POOL

• 18’ x 38’ pool – 3’ to 8’ Ft depth – Shape : Custom
• Computer Aided Designed - Engineered Plans and Specifications
• Swimming Pool Construction and Electrical permits
• Excavation, Layout and wood Forming of Pool - 2 days Included
• 2 loads gravel
• Safety Main Drain with Hydrostatic Relief Valve
• Engineered Concrete 12" Gunite "Bond Beam "construction to meet or exceed city/town codes
• Cantilever Style Coping Edge INcluded
• One (1) 6" band of Frost proof tile - standard set to choose
• 3 Step Grand Stair Entry with 1ea 4 ft of bench
• 6’ x 18"deep end seating benches
• White Plaster Interior Pool Finish
• Sta-Rite Modular Filter and Sta-Rite Pump
• 2 ea Surface Skimmers and required returns
• Weatherproof Time clocks – Intermatic
• Electrical Bonding and Equipment Wiring up to 60ft from existing adequate power Source.
• Complete hookup of all waterlines from filter to pool including hose bib at pump
• One (1) MDX Anti Entrapment Dual Suction Breaker main Drain - Pentair SVRS variable speed pump - meets new Federally Mandated anti entrapment safety code
• 2ea. 500 Watt Underwater SAM Light (100 ft cord) with conduit and deck Box
• Deluxe Cleaning tools – Hand Leaf skimmer , 16’ telescopic pole, 18" nylon brush, Vacuum head, Test kit and thermometer, Safety ropes and floats
• Full Pool and equipment instructions
• Written "Lifetime Structural Warranty"

SPA
• 8ft Diameter 8 Jets Spa with Step, light, bench, Floor Bubblers – MDX Anti-entrapment Safety Main Drain . Meets all ANSI Safety Codes.
• Sta Rite 400K Heater for pool and spa
• Extra electrical is about $700

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3) Do we really need the extras?
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These extras drive up the costs. DO WE REALLY NEED?
• Salt Purification System - $ 1800.00. Worth it?
• PCC 200 Cleaning and Circulation System - $ 4800.00. Shouldn't the pump move around the water from a heat perspective?
• Pebbletec -$3600+. Won't the standard gunite be OK?

Thanks so much

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New Pool Build in Boston Area

posted by: cutter2010 on 05.26.2010 at 01:06 pm in Pools & Spas Forum

We signed our contract a few weeks ago and are excited to get our pool build started. Going to use this thread to document the progress and hopefully help others like we've been helped.

Our permits are currently in process and hope to cut ground over the next 1-2 weeks. In the meantime, we are doing some fence removal, tree removal and play set moving to prep the site.

Here are a few specs. Any last minute additions we should make?

β€’ 18’ x 38’ pool" 3’ to 8’ Ft depth" 550 Sq ft Shape : Oasis
β€’ 8ft Diameter 8 Jets Spa with Step, light, bench, Floor Bubblers " MDX Anti-entrapment Safety Main Drain . Meets all ANSI Safety Codes. Pools Spa to be at pool grade. Intellibrite LED Spa Light included
β€’ Easy 8 Pool and Spa Controller with Inhouse Panel and 4 Function Spa Side Remote
β€’ Computer Aided Designed - Engineered Plans and Specifications
β€’ Swimming Pool Construction and Electrical permits
β€’ Excavation, Layout and wood Forming of Pool along with some additional grading for some slope differences.
β€’ Safety Main Drain with Hydrostatic Relief Valve and 1 load rock pack
β€’ Engineered Steel reinforced
β€’ Engineered Concrete 12” Gunite β€œBond Beam β€œconstruction to meet or exceed city/town codes
β€’ Salt Purification System - Intellichlor Salt
β€’ Polaris 3900 Cleaning Robot w pump
β€’ One (1) 6” band of Frost proof tile - standard set to choose
β€’ 3 Step Grand Stair Entry with 1ea 11ft of bench @ Spa
β€’ 6’ x 18”deep end seating benches
β€’ White Plaster Interior Pool Finish
β€’ Sta-Rite Modular Filter and Sta-Rite Pump
β€’ Sta-Rite 400K BTU Heater
β€’ 2 ea Surface Skimmers and required returns
β€’ Weatherproof Time clocks" Intermatic
β€’ Electrical Bonding and Equipment Wiring up to 60ft from existing adequate power Source. Deck Bonding Included
β€’ Complete hookup of all waterlines from filter to pool including hose bib at pump
β€’ One (1) MDX Anti Entrapment Dual Suction Breaker main Drain - Pentair SVRS variable speed pump
β€’ 2ea Intellibrite LED Pool Lights (100 ft cord) with conduit and deck Box
β€’ Deluxe Cleaning tools" Hand Leaf skimmer , 16’ telescopic pole, 18” nylon brush, Vacuum head, Test kit and thermometer, Safety ropes and floats
β€’ Full Pool and equipment instructions

For Decking, we are using Unilock Umbriano. We are also ripping out a deck and installing a patio

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clipped on: 06.10.2010 at 04:03 pm    last updated on: 06.10.2010 at 04:04 pm