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RE: WE have a new feature! Image uploads (Follow-Up #20)

posted by: salgal on 06.12.2012 at 02:17 pm in Kitchen Table Forum

RC, I thought I would show you a birdfeeder I made using inspiration from your friend.
I have made 18 so far, been to 2 craft shows and sold 3.
They are all different.


so cool bird feeder totem!
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Clippings function not working?

posted by: dedtired on 06.24.2012 at 09:46 am in Cooking Forum

I have tried to "Clip" a few recipes from this forum recently using the Clippings function. It's not working for me. Is anyone else having this problem?


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Favoite Heartwarming Movies

posted by: jel48 on 02.07.2009 at 01:39 pm in Kitchen Table Forum

We've got on a heartwarming movie kick. It's been awfully cold and snowy this winter and we've been watching a lot of movies. We watched a lot of ones that were recommended in a thread a few weeks ago where someone asked for recommendations.

How about recommending movies of the heartwarming variety. I'll start with a couple that we've watched lately. We just loved both of these. The names of others escape me at the moment but I'll add them in if I remember them later.

Christmas Cottage (or maybe it was The Christmas Cottage)
August Moon


clipped on: 04.10.2009 at 12:35 pm    last updated on: 04.10.2009 at 12:35 pm

Heartworm prevention

posted by: stoneybaloney on 08.14.2007 at 08:48 pm in Kitchen Table Forum

In another thread, I mentioned my appreciation for a more cost-effective heartworm preventive, and was asked about it. I thought I'd start another thread.

This method isn't approved by all vets, so I would say to first talk to your personal vet and then any decision would be between the two of you.

The main ingredient in Heartguard is Ivermectin. And you can purchase Ivermectin "straight" at a tractor-supply kind of place. Our main vet mixed it with something, I don't remember what it was, over a year ago, and then labeled the mixture with the appropriate dosages for our pack of furbabies (sizes range from 8 lbs. to 165 lbs). He told me, up-front, that this bottle should last us two years and it looks like it will take us to the end of the year. Cost was $45. The last season we used Heartguard ran around $275. Because of the significant savings, we're able to keep them on the preventive year-round instead of just using something seasonally. With the way the weather is around here, I really appreciate that.

The Ivermectin kills heartworms, and so you wouldn't rely on it to kill all the other worms that the Heartguard takes care of. But honestly, we rarely find evidence of any type of worms; when it does happen, we worm the whole pack. It works for us.

I know that not everyone will agree with how we're doing this. But I've adopted from three different rescue groups, and they all use this Ivermectin method when treating the dogs they rescue, to keep costs down. And, reducing medical costs where we can has allowed us to adopt more kids who need a *furever* home!


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RE: Photography forum? (Follow-Up #12)

posted by: bob414 on 04.06.2007 at 06:44 pm in Test Forum

I may explain this wrong but if so someone will correct me. Terms get mixed up. If you reduce the dimensions of a photo you resize it. Reducing the number of pixels (even though it resizes the file size) should be called compression. If you are going to print a photo you want at least 300 pixels (dots) per inch. A computer monitor only 'sees' 72 pixels per inch. Therefore, if a picture has more than 72 ppi it can be compressed without changing what you see on a computer monitor. Sue, I think you mean bated breath (DUCK). Or maybe you've been adding something to the coffee?


clipped on: 04.06.2007 at 07:05 pm    last updated on: 04.06.2007 at 07:05 pm

OMG, TamiOH's chicken dressing casserole

posted by: glenda_al on 03.15.2007 at 10:36 pm in Kitchen Table Forum

Put it together for a friend, who's Ds is in hospital. Taking it to her, tomorrow.
It if tastes as good uncooked, I know it will be a WINNER!!

Chicken & Dressing Casserole
3 cups chicken breast cooked (I boil mine with chopped onions, and 2 bay leaves, salt and pepper, and poultry seasoning

1 can cream of mushroom soup

1 can cream of celery soup

2 cups chicken broth (used the broth from chicken) of course remove the cloves

1/2 cup butter or margarine, melted

1 package chicken herb-seasoned stuffing mix, (8 oz)

1 cup shredded cheese (usinggrated swiss)

Cook chicken; cool, and cut meat into bite-size pieces. Mix soups and broth; add chicken to the mixture.
Add butter or margarine to dressing mix.

Combine chicken mixture with the dressing mixture.

Place in a 2 to 2 1/2-quart casserole and bake at 350 F. for 30 minutes. Top with shredded cheese during the last 5 minutes if desired.

Soooooo quick and easy, to put together, if you cook the chicken ahead of time.

Serves 6.

Thanks so much, Tami. It's a KEEPER


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pathway finally done

posted by: DAVISSUE_zone9 on 03.23.2005 at 12:56 am in Garden Accoutrements Forum

Last year I posted pictures of the leaves I'd made in anticipation of making a pathway. I promised then I'd post a picture of the finished path. Finally last month I got those leaves in the ground. Here's how it turned out. The leaves were made using the formula provided in the faq section- white portland cement, white sand, buff liquid coloring. I used several species of leaves to make the steppingstones.


clipped on: 09.30.2006 at 04:27 pm    last updated on: 09.30.2006 at 04:28 pm

More helpful hints.....

posted by: granny2ricky on 09.11.2006 at 09:10 pm in Kitchen Table Forum

Love the ant one...going to try this one for sure! our yard has millions of them when we water and they all seem to be carrying eggs!

Reheat Pizza
Heat up leftover pizza in a non-stick skillet on top of the stove, set heat to med-low and heat till warm. This keeps the crust crispy. No soggy micro pizza. I saw this on the cooking channel and it really works.

Easy Deviled Eggs
Put cooked egg yolks in a zip lock bag. Seal, mash till they are all broken up. Add remainder of ingredients, reseal, keep mashing it up mixing thoroughly, cut the tip of the baggy, squeeze mixture into egg. Just throw bag away when done easy clean up.

Expanding Frosting
When you buy a container of cake frosting from the store, whip it with your mixer for a few minutes. You can double it in size. You get to frost more cake/cupcakes with the same amount. You also eat less sugar/calories per serving.

Reheating refrigerated bread
To warm biscuits, pancakes, or muffins that were refrigerated, place them in a microwave with a cup of water. The increased moisture will keep the food moist and help it reheat faster.

Newspaper weeds away
Start putting in your plants, work the nutrients in your soil. Wet
newspapers: put layers around the plants overlapping as you go cover with mulch and forget about weeds. Weeds will get through some gardening plastic they will not get through wet newspapers.

Broken Glass
Use a dry cotton ball to pick up little broken glass pieces of glass - the fibers catch ones you can't see!

No More Mosquitoes
Place a dryer sheet in your pocket. It will keep the mosquitoes away.

Squirrel Away
To keep squirrels from eating your plants sprinkle your plants with cayenne pepper. The cayenne pepper doesn't hurt the plant and the squirrels won't come near it.

Easier Thank You's
When you throw a bridal/baby shower, buy a pack of thank you cards for the guest of honor. During the party, pass out the envelopes and have everyone put their address on one. When the bride/new mom sends the thank you's, they're all addressed!

If you purchase a new bike for your child, place their picture inside the handle bar before placing the grips on. If the bike is stolen and later recovered, remove the grip and there is your proof who owns the bike.

Flexible vacuum
To get something out of a heat register or under the fridge add an empty paper towel roll or empty gift wrap roll to your vacuum. It can be bent or flattened to get in narrow openings.

Reducing Static Cling
Pin a small safety pin to the seam of your slip and you will not have a clingy skirt or dress. Same thing works with slacks that cling when wearing panty hose. Place pin in seam of slacks and - voila - static is gone.

Measuring Cups
Before you pour sticky substances into a measuring cup, fill it with hot water. Dump out the hot water, but don't dry the cup. Next, add your ingredient, such as peanut butter, and watch how easily it comes right out.

Foggy Windshield?
Hate foggy windshields? Buy a chalkboard eraser and keep it in the glove box of your car. When the windows fog, rub with the eraser! Works better than a cloth!

Reopening envelope
If you seal an envelope and then realize you forgot to include something inside, just place your sealed envelope in the freezer for an hour or two. Voila! It unseals easily.

Use your hair conditioner to shave your legs. It's a lot cheaper than
shaving cream and leaves your legs really smooth. It's also a great way to use up the conditioner you bought but didn't like when you tried it in your hair...

Good-bye Fruit Flies
To get rid of pesky fruit flies, take a small glass fill it 1/2" with Apple
Cider Vinegar and 2 drops of dishwashing liquid, mix well. You will find those flies drawn to the cup and gone forever!

Get Rid of Ants
Put small piles of cornmeal where you see ants. They eat it, take it "home," & can't digest it so it kills them. It may take a week or so, esp. if it rains, but it works & you don't have the worry about pets or small children being harmed!

Take baby powder to the beach
Keep a small bottle of baby powder in your beach bag. When you're ready to leave the beach sprinkle yourself and kids with the powder and the sand will slide right off your skin


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RE: Help me- Hydrangeas do not like me! (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: gardengal48 on 08.30.2006 at 10:50 am in Hydrangea Forum

Hydrangeas are not all that difficult to grow or fussy about location, although excessive sunlight for some can cause a lot of wilting in summer. Generally, if you follow basic planting guidelines established for pretty much any type of plant, you should be fine. There are always exceptions - some plants are just not very vigorous or have sustained too much damage during the grower/transport/nursery process or have been neglected by new owners before planting.

1) Hydrangeas prefer an organically rich, well draining yet moisture retentive soil. Competition from too many tree roots, heavy clay soils, too light or sandy soils or poor drainage will slow or even prevent establishment.

2) Plant rootball slightly higher than it was in the pot or container. Many times gardeners err on the side of planting too deeply. With only a very few exceptions, this is a practice to be avoided.

3) Water plant frequently and deeply during its period of establishment. Establishment - development of a strong root system beyond the confines of the original planting hole - generally takes two or more growing seasons for most shrubs. And water smartly - less frequent but deep watering, so that the water percolates well down into the soil, is far more helpful than a daily tickling with a sprinkler or watering wand. If in a hot summer climate or if located in much sun, more frequent watering even after establishment may be necessary.

4) Mulching will help to maintain soil moisture and reduce evaporation during dry periods and an organic mulch (pine straw, leaves, bark, compost) will continue to improve soil conditions and add nutrients.

5) Fertilizing is never a requirement unless the plant indicates an obvious nutrient deficiency. Good soils will typcially provide all the nutrients necessary for healthy growth and continue to do so if regularly mulched. Hydrangeas will tolerate a pretty broad range of soil pH, so unless your soils are heavily skewed to one side or the other, pH really only comes into play if you are trying to adjust the flower color of macrophyllas.

6) Understand the hardiness of the hydrangeas you are attempting to grow and take steps to provide winter protection - if necessary - for your climate. Generally not an issue for climate zones 7 and above.

7) Bone up on pruning techniques - different types of hydrangeas are pruned differently. Again, pruning is not a requirement for hydrangeas but can be used judiciously to control size or legginess or to remove winter dieback.

Following these basic steps should greatly increase your success. The most important considerations are soil and watering - good soil conditions and correct watering - even in winter if necessary - should be of primary concern.


Wonderful info!
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Posting a picture vs. posting a link - How to instructions

posted by: growforit on 08.27.2006 at 08:43 pm in Cacti & Succulents Forum

This maybe be old or useless news to some ---- so I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds here.

But since I had a little trouble figuring out how to post an 'active' picture of a succulent on the Garden Web boards [vs. simply providing a link to Photobucket] I thought I'd try and make it easy/easier for those wanting to post pictures that actually show up in message board posts.

If my directions don't make sense, or someone spots where I messed something up, feel free to do suggest any corrections. Or if I flat out wrong, please make fun of me, I'll deserve it.


Posting pictures vs. posting links:

USE PHOTOBUCKET, seems to work easier than IMAGESHACK [at least I think it does]

[Assuming you've already created an account with Photobucket] [I use Mozilla Fire Fox too]

1.In Photobucket's site, select the 'My Album' option.

2.Find and Upload an image using the 'Browse' button. When you locate the file [aka the photo you want to use] left-click to highlight it's name and select the 'Open' button. The name of the file will appear next to the 'Browse' button. Select the 'Submit' button below.

3.A new window should open in Photobucket ['Current album' window] and you should see the uploaded image [you may have to scroll down a bit]

HERE'S THE CRUCIAL STEP --- to make sure your image will appear 'active' in your Garden Web post versus a link:


4.Right-click and 'copy' the file name from the middle 'TAG' window.

5.Go to Garden Web message board, and right-click and 'paste' the file name directly into the ' "Message:" section. This can be done when creating a new message or adding a 'photo' reply ;-)

6.Select 'Preview Message' button to make sure the image shows up. It should. Cross your Crassulas...


Now I can see where posting a 'link' is a good option when someone is trying to send you to a nice gallery of succulent pics, but personally, if someone is just posting one or two pics of a succulent, I'd prefer an 'active' photo versus a link especially if the link is 'dead' link & needs to be copied and pasted.

Hope this helps some folks out best intentions meant....

Now let's see some pics of your lovely succulents ;-)

Like this gem provided by biwako_of_abi of San Diego

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

By the way biwako of abi,,,,I've altered you pic a bit to ask a question,,,beautiful stuff!

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting


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RE: Cute add for puppies (Follow-Up #10)

posted by: sally2 on 08.26.2006 at 10:40 am in Pets Forum

Judy, if you're still around, please understand. There are so many dogs and cats euthanized every day because of over population, that those of us that rescue dogs and cats, that try to find homes for them, that aren't interested in making money off of them, get a bit touchy when we read these posts. Maybe this, taken from the Humane Society of the United States web site, will explain our reaction to your "cute" ad.

"HSUS Pet Overpopulation Estimates

Number of cats and dogs entering shelters each year:
6-8 million (HSUS estimate)
Number of cats and dogs euthanized by shelters each year:
3-4 million (HSUS estimate)

Number of cats and dogs adopted from shelters each year:
3-4 million (HSUS estimate)

Number of cats and dogs reclaimed by owners from shelters each year:
Between 600,000 and 750,000 -- 30% of dogs and 2-5% of cats entering shelters (HSUS estimate)

Number of animal shelters in the United States:
Between 4,000 and 6,000 (HSUS estimate)

Percentage of dogs in shelters who are purebred:
25% (HSUS estimate)

Average number of litters a fertile cat can produce in one year: 3

Average number of kittens in a feline litter: 4-6

In seven years, one female cat and her offspring can theoretically produce 420,000 cats.

Average number of litters a fertile dog can produce in one year: 2

Average number of puppies in a canine litter: 6-10

In six years, one female dog and her offspring can theoretically produce 67,000 dogs."

Lots and lots of people are trying to find homes for these homeless animals, but when people allow their pets to get pregnant, it just makes it harder for the animals. My next door neighbor nearly bred his poor beagle to death. She got mastitis, and nearly died. Thankfully, it was a wake-up call; he learned his lesson and he had her spayed.

Please learn more about it. Talk to shelters, talk to the people at animal control. Talk to professional breeders, even. Take your sister with your when you do. Talk to vets. Talk to poodle rescue groups. If your sister really wants to breed her poodle, she needs to know what she's doing to her dog, and all the homeless dogs.

Those of us who rescue are just tired. Please, educate yourself and your sister, rather than taking offense. I hope you're still with us, and I hope you're willing to hear our plea.



Interesting and very sad statistics.
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Let's Make Some Lotion....

posted by: ann_in_florida on 06.30.2006 at 02:56 pm in Kitchen Table Forum

I saw this on one of my craft boards. Sounds like some good stuff. The gals all say it works great on feet and elbows. I suppose you could add some fragrance if you like.

Here is the lotion formula:

Get ingredients at Dollar General:

I bottle baby lotion (pink) their brand (DG)
1 jar vaseline
1 jar vitamin E-cream

Empty all into large bowl.Mix well. I use my elecrtic beaters, makes it flufflier
& makes a lot. Blend well!!! All the ingredients were Dollar General brand. For storage, I filled up the vaseline jar, the vitamin E jar and 3 ziplock small snap and store jars.



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RE: I have a question about high speed internet.... (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: lindsey_ca on 08.17.2006 at 03:14 am in Kitchen Table Forum

Hang onto your hats cuz I'm about to blow you all away...

Our DSL is being upgraded within the next couple of weeks, to 10Mbps...

1,024 bits = 1 kilobit (1 Kb)
8 bits = 1 byte (b) (it takes 1 byte to form each character)
1,024 bytes = 1 kilobyte (1KB)

1,024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte (1 MB)
1,048,576 bits = 1 megabyte (1MB) (1,024 x 1,024)

1 Kb = 1,024 bits
1 Mb = 1,048,576 bits (1,024 x 1,024)
10 Mb = 10,485,760 bits

10,485,760 bits / 8 bits = 1,310,720 bytes

1,310,720 bytes / 1,024 bytes = 1,280 kilobytes

1,280 kilobytes / 1,024 = 1.25 MB per second

9 MB / 1.25 MBps = 7.2 seconds

In other words, it will take us just a tad over 7 seconds to download a 9.5 MB file. (Currently it would take just under 30 seconds.)


bits and bytes
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RE: FREE Directory Assistance (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: josestrauss on 08.11.2006 at 07:21 pm in Money Saving Tips Forum

Or you could just go to one of the many websites like or that provide free directory assistance. They also do reverse lookups.


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RE: Gotta clean my carpets . . . what's best to do it? (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: bryansda on 08.09.2006 at 04:03 pm in Cleaning Tips Forum

I have a Hoover also and think it does a good job. A friend of mine uses nothing but vinegar as a carpet cleaning solution and she says it does a very good job. I use the Hoover cleaning solution with Oxyclean mixed in with it, then rinse with either clear water or some Oxyclean in the rinse water. I have 4 dogs and a cat so your kids have nothing on my gang.


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RE: Gotta clean my carpets . . . what's best to do it? (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: quiltglo on 08.09.2006 at 02:12 am in Cleaning Tips Forum

I purchased a Hoover model several years ago for less than $300. I feel like it paid for itself the first time. We had around 2,000 feet of carpet. After I used up the original chemicals, I just used Simple Green. I know the instructions say not to use anything else, but even a very mild solution of detergent worked well. I rinsed several times.

Our carpet was also worn out (four kids here) so it didn't always look so great, but I could definately tell it was cleaner. I really liked not having to clear everything out like you do with professional cleaners. I would just hit the traffic areas, which was all that was needed. It came in handy to suck up water when the washer hose came loose, too.



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RE: Anyone have experience with sun blocking window films? (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: mikie on 08.06.2006 at 10:10 am in Windows Forum

I diy'd 70% heat rejection film from homeDepop - . Certainly can see where someone might put a score or scratch a line on the glass cutting in the film. Which would think would make a weak spot on that glass.

That aside,,, Its Great Stuff. Wow'd me.

Not at all like 100% mirror bronze film I put on in the 80's which got hot on the film surface making me wonder if radiated heat might be more than the rejection of sun light. This stuff stays cool to the touch & up close face touchy/feely. Not a wiff of heat.

Think about $35 for 3'x 25' roll & bout $40 for four foot wide.


For skylights
clipped on: 08.09.2006 at 10:06 pm    last updated on: 08.09.2006 at 10:06 pm

RE: How to get rid of Creeping Charlie (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: yarddoctor on 06.22.2006 at 08:12 am in Ask The Yard Doctor Forum

Dear AndyAndy,

Thank you very much for your inquiry. Creeping Charlie or ground ivy is a particularly problematic weed because of the fact that it is resistant to a number of herbicides, but there are some very effective products available. (One of the things I am assuming here is that you want to control the creeping Charlie in your turf areas.) When searching for a herbicide look for products containing triclopyr. This includes Weed B Gon Purple, Weed B Gon Chickweed, and Weed B Gone Max. If you have other broadleaf weeds such as dandelion, Weed B Gon Max would be a great choice because it contains 4 active ingredients 2,4-D, which is very effective on dandelion, MCPP, dicamba, and triclopyr. The best time to apply your perennial weed control products for species such as creeping Charlie is in fall (October 1-15). At this time weeds will be going dormant and storing nutrients, and if you spray at this time the weed will actually store the herbicide, giving you the best control response. The second best time is in the spring right at and after creeping Charlie flowers.

A second good choice for chemical control is quinclorac (Drive). This is harder to find and is more expensive (it is also better). I have never heard of it being sold in the bigger stores, only Lesco. It can be applied alone or mixed with any three way product (triclopyr does not have to be in the mix) and you will get excellent results. Timing is still the same. The good news about Drive is that is the best post emergence herbicide for crabgrass that I have ever seen. It will come off patent next year, so I suspect is availability will become more widespread.

Again, thanks for the question and let me know if you have more.


Trey Rogers
The Yard Doctor


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RE: Looking For List of Start up and Their Uses (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: grandms on 07.23.2006 at 03:26 pm in Computer Help Forum

Try this one.

Here is a link that might be useful: Managing starup programs


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2nd Year Ordering From Iris Greens

posted by: lilaclily on 07.20.2006 at 01:48 pm in Iris Forum

I don't know how many of you are familiar with this mailorder company, but I just wanted to rave about the order I just got in. This was my 2nd year ordering from them and I couldn't be happier. I've ordered about 100 different iris in total now and I'm sure this batch will do just as well as last year's. Most bloomed this spring from last year's purchase and were nothing short of amazing. If they feel the rhizome is small, they will send two. All are labeled and the labels are secure and clear and hold up under snow, rain, etc.

They have great prices and a wonderful selection and included bonuses with your order. The website is easy to negotiate with pictures of all irises. Reasonable shipping too.

Here is a link that might be useful: Iris Greens Online Catalog


Wonderful iris supplier...and shipping is reasonable too! Many/most are $2 or $3.
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Viburnums pollination, propagation, provenance: Oh my!

posted by: Viburnumvalley on 02.26.2005 at 01:58 pm in Shrubs Forum

There have been many excellent discussions about viburnums here on Shrubs forum, as well as elsewhere like Natives and Wildlife forums. Some of them have gotten to be voluminous, and have a lot of good collateral info. I wanted to summarize my thoughts/opinions about the rationale of pollination in viburnums. This same info is posted on the "Still about Viburnums: berries" thread on the Wildlife forum. Speaking of voluminous: stop now if you don't have your athletic reading shoes on.

Many posts on GW are hitting all around the concept of the conditions necessary for fine fruiting. I'm looking to provide some clarification of what I think most people are looking for, information-wise. I use Viburnum dentatum (arrowwood) as the example, because it is a widely used plant that most folks have heard of and is easy to grow.

FIRST: there are some claims that the only reason that anyone says you need two different plants with viburnums is so that they can sell you something. Hogwash. University professors, researchers, and people on GW don't have a financial interest in your garden. You can send me money if you want; I'd rather see you post (by this fall) that your viburnums are loaded with fruit because you installed several dissimilar individuals. And then you could send me some for my collection....

NEXT: Viburnums are monoecious, as has been stated elsewhere and can be looked up in texts. So are most of the Rosaceae family (Malus, Prunus, Pyrus, Amelanchier, Rosa, etc.) but many fruit tree growers will vouch for increased fruit production when multiple clones of a species are planted in proximity in order to provide cross-pollination opportunities. This implies (and researchers/scientists/someone besides me can verify better) SELF-INCOMPATIBILITY of individuals despite each plant having perfect flowers. This doesn't mean that a plant CANNOT pollinate itself, just that it does very little or poorly. There is anecdotal evidence (here on GW, and elsewhere) of some solitary plants of some species of viburnums that produce decent fruit crops, but it is so easy to plant a couple different ones that it defies logic not to. Co-opt a neighbor or some such if you don't personally have room.

NEXT: The biggest confusion I observe is the issue of species versus clone or cultivar. The best way to resolve this is to do a little reading in a biology or botany text, but I'll endeavor to layman-ize it. When someone says "I have the species Viburnum dentatum, not any clone" what they are saying is that they have an unnamed or unknown plant of arrowwood, not a named plant of arrowwood like Chicago Lustre. What they don't say (and maybe don't know) is whether they have a seedling of Viburnum dentatum. THAT MATTERS. If they know they have a seedling (grown from seed, not just a little plant), then they have a genetically distinct individual of Viburnum dentatum from a known provenance. If they just have an unnamed plant, it could just as well be a clone depending on propagation method. And on we go...

NEXT: Propagation....every Chicago Lustre is (should be) identical to every other Chicago Lustre because the plant is reproduced VEGETATIVELY (clonally or asexually), generally from cuttings that are then rooted. Species plants of arrowwood can also be produced this way. This is the trap that many individuals seem to fall into, in these threads, when claiming that they have "the species" and not necessarily knowing if they have seedlings or simply unnamed but clonally-produced plants. When plants are produced from seed (SEXUALLY) this means that there has been some genetic mixing between two parent plants resulting in seedlings that are related to but not identical to the parent producing the seed. Individually, these seedlings are no more or less capable of self-pollination. Are you worn out yet?

If you purchase and plant more than one arrowwood that were grown from seed (thus similar but not identical), then these will be fine for providing cross-pollination conditions if they have overlapping bloom times, which they should if from the same seed source.

NEXT: There was a GW question elsewhere about what happens when buying plants from Oregon and from North Dakota sources. This was one of the best ones yet about getting to the crux of the matter. Overlapping bloom times is the critical factor. If plants from these disparate sources bloom with a month separating them, no dice. If they overlap, one should have oodles of fruit.

NEXT: Provenance is important, especially to northern gardeners and those who want to respect their efforts to reinvigorate native landscapes. You want a plant that is known to survive your conditions (soils, moisture, low temps), and some want plants that are known to have naturally occurred in their area. Viburnum dentatum has an extremely wide range of natural occurrence (provenance); a glance at Hightshoe's text shows a distribution map shaded from Cape Cod MA down the east coast to northern FL, and along the Gulf coast to east TX. Interior areas shaded include most of those states bordering the Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico, as well as minor areas in AR, MO, TN, KY, and OH. This map is just for V. dentatum. Varietas of V. dentatum and its allies (like V. molle, V. rafinesquianum, V. recognitum, and V. bracteatum) extend this range even further. You want to know these things when selecting plants for ND, or NH, or GA. The different clones of Viburnum dentatum come from many areas; no wonder they don't all bloom at the same time! This applies not only to my garden bloom times (I have about a dozen different V. dentatum), but to the difference in WHEN they bloom for me and when they'll bloom for you. For me, arrowwoods generally bloom in May-June; for you, that may be a month or more later or earlier. The SEQUENCE of identical plants' bloom times should remain constant, though. If in KY mine proceed from Cardinal to Indian Summer to Northern Burgundy to Autumn Jazz, then you should have the same order of bloom in ND, or NH, or GA.

NEXT: One of the viburnum threads on Shrubs refers to several folks who will be again tracking bloom times in 2005, in order to help the GWers flailing about trying to match up some of their favorite fruiting plants. This will make life simpler in some respects (shouldn't be tough to have a start to finish list of all the clones' bloom times) but more confusing in others (seedlings, if not of known provenance, are going to be all over the place time-wise).

Is anyone still awake? Isn't this fun? My personal goal is to grow as many of all the viburnums as I can here in KY. Not just clones, but seedlings of known provenance too. Any that I learn to be invasive here will be eradicated, but there will still be many to permanently cultivate. These are great plants to look at, but also to learn from so that others can enjoy them successfully as well.


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RE: Cut and paste (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: thirdfrt on 07.06.2006 at 04:07 am in Computer Help Forum

Try this Jim,

Left click and then highlight what you want to put into your email, once you have highlighted it, then right click on it and then click Cut, then go to your email and left click on it with your mouse (Where you normally type your letters), then right click and click on paste and it should go into your email. You can do the same with Copy and paste using the same method that I just described for Cut and Paste. Hope this helps.



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Bully shatters 8lb barrier w/pics for proof (REPOST)

posted by: suze9 on 12.28.2005 at 12:25 am in Growing Tomatoes Forum

Originally posted by bully z6det (My Page) on Thu, Dec 30, 04 at 22:05

The hardest part of growing this massive tomato was keeping the entire hydro-ponic project a secret from you my friends.

I have seen many large tomato pics here at GardenWeb, most taken next to pocket change, plates or other small items to help show scale.
With a tomato of this size I had to use more creative common household items that would hopefully give an impression of the GIANT size of this tomato to all GardenWeb members from countries across the world.

This first picture shows the official weigh-in of the Bullmato as I have come to call it.
(unfortunately due to its massive size I could not get the tomato and scale into the same frame)

In the first piture of Bullmato, I put it in our kitchen armoire.

At the table

On the stove (I'm famous for my goose as Mrs Bully will attest)

Here's Bullmato in the bathroom or 'water closet' for our commonwealth friends

And finally, here I am trying to sneak in after a night out of celebrating my success.


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RE: computer slow at start up (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: cboy on 06.02.2006 at 09:12 pm in Computer Help Forum

Something I picked up from reading the message boards that I use.

To clean out unwanted files and help speed up your computer.

Start - Control Panel - Internet Options open -

Delete cookies, Delete files (select all off-line content) - Clear History. Click OK to Exit.

Then go to Start - Run - Enter %temp% - Click OK - Click Edit - Click Select All - Delete.

All I ever save is Picaso 2

Start - Run-

Enter - C:\windows\temp - OK - and select everything except temporary internet files, cookies and history folders and delete them.

Then Restart your computer.

Then use the Defragmenter.

Start - All Programs - Accessories - System Tools - Defragmenter - Analyze and Defragment if needed.



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RE: Lost In The Computer (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: oldrustybucket on 06.19.2006 at 12:44 am in Computer Help Forum

OK guys....would Picasa from Google help...i remember when downloading the program myself, I was surprised to find all of the pics hiding inside my found them all and then I was able to delete whatever....just a suggestion...and besides it's a great program for lots of other reasons!


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RE: Virus Attack (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: premio53 on 06.08.2006 at 02:41 am in Computer Help Forum

Run Ewido and your problem will be solved.


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What's your favorite movie?

posted by: Big_Mike on 11.17.2005 at 12:07 am in Growing Tomatoes Forum

I'm sitting here with AMC on listening to The Blues Brothers and thought this might be a fun thread to start. I am a devoted fan of James Bond. I've seen them all at least twice. I'm having a bit of a problem with the new Bond being a blond guy. Also, I never miss a good old Cheech and Chong flick. I've also seen all the "spaghetti westerns" starring Clint Eastwood. How about some of you?


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RE: What is the Bluest Iris out there? (Follow-Up #21)

posted by: merlie on 06.04.2005 at 01:15 pm in Iris Forum

Over Alaska is a bitone but it screams BLUE!!!! The photo
is true to the color.
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RE: Seen any good bumper stickers lately? (Follow-Up #10)

posted by: harper on 06.06.2006 at 09:51 pm in The Garden Party Forum

If You Aren't Completely Appalled You Haven't Been Paying Attention.



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The neighbors are trying to prevent me from selling my house!!!

posted by: peacensunshine on 06.10.2006 at 09:16 pm in Buying and Selling Homes Forum

We are selling our house FSBO and have had a LOT of interest....But, this morning we were going to run an open house and we come to find the neighbors put a sign in their yard telling people not to buy the house because of the trees. They don't like how the trees dump leaves on their property every fall and want them gone.

We went over there and they threatened to spray paint their house, anything that they had to do to get us to cut the trees down.

Well, the city only lets you cut 1-2 trees down a year so he is demanding that we get the buyers to promise in writing to cut the trees down each year until they are gone.

So, now I'm trying to sell my house with this giant sign in my yard and dont know what to do!

I might even have to move back into the house if it does not sell because of this.

I don't think there is anything I can do legally to stop this.

Does this fall under blackmail/extortion? (I will hurt your property value unless you do x)

I just want to cry!!! Any ideas?


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My gardening style is a code violation

posted by: nicki on 06.08.2006 at 10:48 am in Florida Gardening Forum

Sheesh. And to think I always thought my garden style was "cottage".

But by this notice I have in my hand from the great City of Leesburg, I'm in violation of Code 1953, 14-45; Ord. No. 85-13, 14-45... blah, blah, blah... that states my property has excessive horticultural overgrowth. I have 15 days to clean it up, mow it and maintain it to avoid further action.

(Insert appropriate expletive here)

You know what? They can take my horticultural "overgrowth" and shove it where the sun doesn't shine...

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Here is a link that might be useful: Scroll down for more pictures of my code violating garden


Want to follow this one!
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OMG - Marilyn's Fish Cakes - Incredible ! (pic)

posted by: canarybird on 05.08.2006 at 06:56 pm in Cooking Forum

We still can't believe how good they are - there is still one left in the fridge and I guess we'll have to halve it or toss a coin. I bought fresh salmon today and decided to make Marilyn's recipe for mixing raw salmon, rather than tinned or leftover, into delicious, moist cakes. They're out of this world ! Wolf kept saying "wunderbar" and I kept saying "Mmmmm". These are no ordinary salmon cakes and I can't say enough how much better they are than the ones I've always made. I'll post some small pics of my steps in making them and then the recipe.
We don't get Panko here so I crushed some saltine-like crackers for the outer coating.

Free Image Hosting at I used small grains of almond to replace part of the breadcrumbs.

Free Image Hosting at Here is the diced raw salmon.

Free Image Hosting at Here is the final mixture with one pattie scooped out.

Free Image Hosting at The first pattie is formed before cooking.

The Final Dish, served with steamed vegetables.

Thanks Marilyn - I've now learned how to make the best salmon cakes ever......and have already passed on the recipe to my sister, brother and two daughters LOL.

* Posted by: danain (My Page) on Wed, Apr 12, 06 at 13:06

Jessie, mine is Paul's favorite way to eat salmon. I do them only with fresh salmon, that is the key.

Fresh Salmon Cakes

2 cloves garlic; minced
2 tablespoons minced onion
2 dashes Tabasco (or 1 teaspoon Old Bay)
1 egg yolk (or egg white)
2 tablespoons chopped parsley
2 tablespoons real mayonnaise
1/2 teaspoon kosher salt (less if table salt)
fresh ground pepper to taste
2/3 cup coarse white bread crumbs
1 pound fresh salmon
1/2 cup Panko (Japanese bread crumbs)
2 or 3 tablespoons olive oil

In a small bowl, combine garlic, onion, Tabasco, egg, parsley, mayonnaise, salt and pepper; set aside. Remove skin and bones from salmon and cut into small cubes (about 1/2-inch); place in a medium bowl and gently stir in bread crumbs. Gently fold egg mixture into salmon and bread and refrigerate at least 2 hours before shaping into 4 patties.

Carefully coat the outside of each patty with Panko crumbs. Heat oil in a non-stick skillet over medium-high heat until very hot and add salmon cakes. Fry the cakes until brown, about 4 minutes on each side turning only once. Serve with lemon wedges or your favorite tarter sauce.

*May substitute cracker crumbs or bread crumbs for the Panko.





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RE: Posting Pics (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: northspruce on 06.07.2006 at 10:16 pm in Far North Gardening Forum

1) Save pictures as JPG files to the hard drive of your computer.

2) Set up an account at (it's free and doesn't spam you)

3) Upload your pictures into the photobucket account using the "browse" and "submit" buttons.

4) With that window still open, come back to Gardenweb and start typing your message. Wherever you want to add a picture, just hit Enter to leave a spare line, then click back to Photobucket.

5) In Photobucket, select the entire contents of the box named "TAG" that is underneath the picture you want to post. Right-click to "copy" it, then return to your Gardenweb message and right-click to "paste". You will see a long line of gibberish, don't worry this will turn into a picture.

6) Continue typing and add more pictures if you want as you type.

7) When you preview your message, you should see your pictures come up in the message then you can submit it as normal.

Hope this helps! Let's see what ya got!!


and Photobucket
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RE: New puppy needing a name (pics finally) (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: bully on 12.20.2005 at 04:26 pm in Growing Tomatoes Forum

cherokee puppy
puppy calabash

God these are awful LOL

how about Duchese


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What does everyone do for a living ?

posted by: tomstrees on 11.01.2005 at 05:06 pm in Growing Tomatoes Forum

I've never thought of asking til now !!!
I sell advertising , so Garden-Web is a great "break in the day" for me - What does everyone else do ? ~ Tom


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