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RE: Fireplaces - please share yours (Follow-Up #11)

posted by: soonermagic on 03.09.2008 at 08:42 pm in Home Decorating Forum

Here's our simple fireplace. The best we could do with as close as the windows are to the fireplace. The hearth is soapstone.

Before move-in:
Fireplace (waiting on TV)

With TV:

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Exterior:

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New Restoration Hardware Coupon exp 08/17

posted by: nauset on 08.04.2008 at 10:56 am in Kitchens Forum

Just got a new Restoration Hardware 20% off coupon in the mail Saturday. It is valid August 4- 17, 2008

CODE: HRP08803
Must present the voucher in store , but it says the code will work on line or by phone.

Hope this helps someone who is ready to order.
Carole

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99% done cottage kitchen

posted by: jrdip on 04.28.2008 at 07:31 pm in Kitchens Forum

I just wanted to thank everyone for letting me vent and ask questions over the past couple of months. Did I thank everyone enough for letting me vent? We are almost done with our complete house remodel of a 1929 bungalow and just in time for baby! It has been a long process filled with many headaches but I wouldn't change a thing and am so glad we decided to do renovate this house. It is a very small kitchen but through careful planning and editing it is a very efficient kitchen for us and how we live and cook, and somehow I managed to stay within my 22K budget. Here is a list of all products used and I hope yall enjoy.
Thanks, Jen

wall and trim color: sw alabaster white
cabinet color: sw mindful gray
cabinets: armstrong cabinets
countertops: honed carrara marble
cabinet hardware: rh dakota 6" pull in aged pewter
appliances: ge profile
sink: whitehaus 30" farmhouse sink (I got this for 300!)
faucet: 75 off of ebay
tile: daltile 3x6 folio subway handmade and handglazed subway tile
shades: lowes sahara roman shades
sliding door track: crown industrial
sconces: visual comfort library sconce
lighting over counter: custom made
stool: antique milk pail

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RE: White Subway Tile tub/shower remodel (Follow-Up #10)

posted by: cassidyhome on 08.05.2005 at 11:35 pm in Bathrooms Forum

Thanks so much!
By window trim - do you mean the woodwork? We bought a sheet of MDF and cut all of the moulding from that (we have a large table saw). The width of the window casing is 3 inches on the sides. There is a little piece of lattice that sticks out to give the raised detail along the top of the window, rounded over with a router. It's a classic Craftsman design (even though this is an 80's tract house).

The glass shelf/towel bar is in the American Standard "Standard Collection" and I bought it new off of eBay!

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RE: Bedrooms Using Red & White (or Black & White) Toile (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: lyban on 05.20.2008 at 04:41 pm in Home Decorating Forum

Something like this one that I kept in my inspirational folder.
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RE: Staining..In or Out??? (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: decorpas on 05.12.2008 at 01:29 pm in Home Decorating Forum

Lisa, you say you are in a 1950's New England colonial. Is this the style you are drawn to? What colors are you using on the walls? I ask because these are things that would influence my choice in floor color. If you are doing Martha Stewart pale palette, for example, with clean fresh modern country feel, dark floors could be a great counterpoint. If you're doing primatives, you might be using a different color palette-- and this could influence the color/warmth of the color you choose for floor. Have you seen any of the houses in the neighborhood to see how other's handle this? If not, you could go through some open houses to see what is being done a lot in your area and what looks good to you. In the '50s, the same builder often built on your same street and maybe you can get into a house like yours.

I should clarify that when people say "dark" floor to me, I think of the dark, Brazilian wood colors that are in right now. I love those, but they aren't right in every house!

Nora, I know what you mean about red oak. It has a very particular look to it, and leaving it natural can exacerbate that look. The older floors had a nice patina to them that didn't leave that look (dare I call it builders oak, which is how I think of it? No slam to builders, it was just way over done for while). I was lucky with my floors, as they are older and the builder's wife apparently hand picked each plank (this is the story handed down, and it looks like it could be true). Of course, I wanted to showcase her careful work, which was completely lost under the PO's dark brown stain. But I still wanted that patina of an old oak floor. Hard to pull that off. Your floors are very pretty and I love that you are mixing stains with your staircase and foyer floor. Very creative!

I don't envy anyone going through the stain color process. It takes a few years off me every time I do it. I want a warm glow, not orange...not white...not brown...well, you get it. Good luck, everyone:-) Keep us updated, Lisa.

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RE: Screw up to work in my favour- getting a Super Susan- Pics pl (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: natesgramma on 11.20.2007 at 12:17 am in Kitchens Forum

I can show you the configuration I have. I had to go and check to see if my shelf is adjustable and it is. So thanks for asking because now I have some taller things I'll put in there after I move the shelf.
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There is additional space in the corners that could also be used for vases, etc. Hope this helps.

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White Subway Tile tub/shower remodel

posted by: cassidyhome on 07.30.2005 at 12:22 pm in Bathrooms Forum

We had a leak so we reluctantly tapped into our emergency savings account and started to create something beautiful and functional. The first step was to remove an old tub and tile surround, including old aluminum windows that wouldn't slide any more. We replaced them with vinyl retrofit windows with "Industrex" privacy glass and chose a non-opening window for the shower.

The tub is a Kohler Synchrony K-1195-L with the integrated tiling flange. The fixtures are all from American Standard "The Standard Collection." The toilet was the only thing we saved - it is a Kohler Memoirs Classic elongated.

The wall tile is Daltile Rittenhouse Square in Arctic White with a Portobello White Line Bordura accent piece which measures 1.5" x 8" and is installed 69" from the floor. The window sill is a white-gray marble with a polished finish.

The floor is Cerim "The Wood Collection" porcelain wood-look tile in the color "Ellinton." We chose two of the 3 available sizes - which measure about 20" x 8" and 16" x 6".

The walls and ceiling are painted in Benjamin Moore's Bleeker Beige (really Behr paint purchased at Home Depot). The door is a Simpson Shaker-style 5-panel. The trim was crafted by my husband out of MDF-thanks so much to posters on this forum who inspired the design.

The exhaust fan is a Panasonic WhisperLite FV-07VQL3 and the switches that control it are Leviton 6260M and 5634. The curtain rod is a Myson in a chrome finish and the curtain is a nylon "The Traveler".

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The photos are in my Photobucket account: http://photobucket.com/albums/v399/MadamX/Bathroom%20remodel/ and the password is Maggie

Enjoy!

Here is a link that might be useful: Password: Maggie

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RE: Anyone willing to share the inside of their pantry? (Follow-Up #32)

posted by: mustangs on 11.15.2007 at 09:58 am in Home Decorating Forum

BT, Thanks for sharing these pictures. I really want to move forward with the butlers pantry and I'm always on the lookout for ideas. I am bumping out the back wall in the laundry room (the wall with the famed picture) which will give me additional five feet in depth. I had a counter installed over the W&D, it does double duty for entertaining staging. I'll extend the countertop the entire length of the laundry room and reinstall the W&D to the far end of the room. I'd like to use Dino's shallow shelving idea on the wall opposite the counter top.

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RE: Anyone willing to share the inside of their pantry? (Follow-Up #38)

posted by: mustangs on 11.15.2007 at 01:03 pm in Home Decorating Forum

Chloeelise, I found most of my organizers like the stacked drawers at Big Lots.

Cburch, I keep cereals, flours, sugars, salts, rices, pastas in the containers on their sides. They are Snapware from Target or most any housewares store. I am a label freak (even my refrigerator shelves.) Here are the labeled containers for laundry detergents.

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RE: Subway Tile - What grout size and did you go Epoxy ? (Follow-Up #20)

posted by: sekhmet45 on 10.19.2007 at 05:34 pm in Kitchens Forum

I'd go with the epoxy grout. I just used the Laticrete epoxy grout from Lowe's on my bathroom and shower floor and it is fantastic. I reduced the "sand" part of the epoxy slightly because I have 1/16" joints and it applies like unsanded regular grout. I did the application myself and it was tremendously easy. I've done 6 other bathrooms in my life and I always hated grouting the most, but this new epoxy grout is just fantastic. Plus, there is no need to seal it. No stains.

Also, I have subways as my backsplash in my kitchen and I prefer the 1/16th" joints. But, I think 1/8th would work well with your crackled finished tiles. Your tiles have a softer look that can handle a slightly wider joint.

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RE: Loves2Cook4Six- Question about your pot rack cabinet?? (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: loves2cook4six on 11.19.2007 at 08:33 am in Kitchens Forum

We needed more hardware than came with the shelf :)

We purchased bolts long enough to go through the shelf and then through the "slit" of the pot rack where the hooks go. We used a washer to prevent the nut from falling back through the slit.

Then we drilled holes aprox. 3" in from the edges along the long center of the shelf and bolted the pot rack to the shelf. We can adjust the height of the pot rack by adjusting the shelf height. Right now the bolts hold the pot rack so tightly to the shelf that the hooks cannot move. I need to loosen the bolts a wee bit and adjust the hooks better and then retighten them.

In the picture below you can see the bolt between the first and second hook from the left.

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RE: How do you store your pots and pans? (Follow-Up #15)

posted by: loves2cook4six on 11.06.2007 at 10:12 pm in Kitchens Forum

My upper cabinets are 15" deep, inside is 14" deep so my biggest AC 6qt saute pan is just a tad to large so it's in a drawer under the cooktop.

The pot rack is bolted to a shelf which slides in on shelf supports so if we ever decide we're not cooking LOL, or if a future owner prefers, the pot rack can be removed and extra shelves put in to increase storage capacity.

We have a lot of storage in our kitchen so this was planned this way. I have seen something similar in another kitchen here. IIRC it was in the "Somethings gotta Give" kitchen that susanandmarkw has. I am TERRIBLE with movie names so I may have the name wrong LOL. If someone else has a better memory feel free to correct me.

As I look at the picture I realize that had we wanted to, we could have hung the rack from the top of the cabinet and had even more room at the bottom, maybe even been able to fit some of the pots in. But this works for us just as well.

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Please excuse the mess on the counters. We're still moving in and we're waiting on handles which should have already been here. See that big white box. It contains 60 of the WRONG handles!! They sent knobs instead of pulls.

And when I went to add the link below I see that the pot rack is now HALF the price we paid. Dang it and I can't find the reciept.

Here is a link that might be useful: The pot rack we used

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RE: Paint island a french country cream - suggestions please!!!! (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: madsprayer on 10.19.2007 at 11:00 pm in Kitchens Forum

Blondie,

I do this professionally and I do not understand why your designer thought it was a bad idea. I have seen stunning results with this combination, and would not hesitate at all.

I spray most of my work, but this is what I would do if I had to use a brush:
(I prefer to use only milk paint on painted cabinets due to both its outstanding durability, easy clean-up, and quick dry time)

Clean entire surface with TSP solution mixed with water. Sand lightly with 320 grit sanding sponge

Prime island with Bin Shellac based primer. Sand lightly again with 320 grit sponge.

1 quart Snow White EF Finishes Milk Paint
1 pint Buttermilk Yellow EF Finishes Milk Paint
* Mix 1/2 pint of Buttermilk Yellow and 1 quart Snow white together and add 10% tap water...stir completely
Apply 2 - 3 coats to attain your desired coverage.

Sand lightly again 320 grit.

1 pint Van Dyke Brown EF Milk Paint Glaze Effects
* Use artists brush to lightly color recesses and profiles and immediately wipe down, repeat until you get the look you want. If the glaze starts to dry too fast simply add water or use a dampened cloth to remove more easily.

Apply 2 coats EF Topcoat Poly Satin finish.

Wait 8 hours

Sand LIGHTLY 320 grit 1 last time.

Apply finish coat Satin Poly.

The piece will look like it came from a top manufacturer

or you can pay somebody like me $500-$800 to spray, glaze, and finish it.

EF Finishes Milk Paint is available from Woodcraft dealers, which have stores nationwide and on the web. It is slightly more expensive than BM but it is a much higher quality finish for fine wood. The Ben Moore product for this application is Impervo enamel, which is used for industrial applications and has not changed much in the past 20 years. Simply, you can do much better.

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RE: Pantry shelf spacing - Did you save it?? (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: sue36 on 10.04.2007 at 05:03 pm in Kitchens Forum

Is this it?

My pantry measures 4 feet wide by 5 feet deep.
Starting at the top:

18" top shelf to ceiling(Things I don't need often or are lightweight.)
15" to next shelf (cereal boxes, etc.)
10" to next (canned goods, etc.)
10" to next (canned goods, etc.)
16" to next (small appliances)
20" from bottom shelf to floor (extra waters, heavy items)

I made the depth of the back shelf and the right side 12". The left side is 6" and holds my husbands hot sauces and other small items.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pic of Sharb's Pantry

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RE: white granite (Follow-Up #27)

posted by: sharon_s on 04.15.2007 at 05:45 pm in Kitchens Forum

Alku,

Here you go. I hesitate to post the picture, because the kitchen isn't done yet and it's not the best pic. But I decided to brave it. Ignore the rugs--they are just temporary.

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White stone is quartzite from Brazil
Called White America or Palisades White
Love it!
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RE: spice/cooking oil pull-out right next to oven? (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: alku05 on 08.20.2007 at 07:59 pm in Kitchens Forum

For teachersuzanne:

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Our spices are right next to our Bluestar rangetop and that area does not heat up at all.

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RE: Is this SOAPSTONE??? (Follow-Up #7)

posted by: kgsmom on 10.02.2007 at 11:38 am in Kitchens Forum

raynag, we bought our green eyes from M Tex in SF back in mar06. At the time, it was very hard to find (I guess it still is!)so I snapped it up with the plan to use it for all surfaces. At the 11 hr and ready to template in Dec, my builder realized that the slab of we had allotted for the island would have only given us a 6" overhand for bar counter so we ran down to m tex and found the Venata which had the coloration of greeneyes but a lot more dramatic with the quartz running through it. In the end, it does look much better and makes a bigger statement but we're not careful people and so have dinged it up. I still love it though and would have never wanted a "perfect" counter top.

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honed virginia mist pics

posted by: deee on 09.07.2007 at 05:08 pm in Kitchens Forum

Just installed today! I'm really pleased. Many, many thanks to this forum for all the advice and hand holding. Be sure to check out my galaxy sink too. I'll post more pics of the kitchen when finished.

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picture of flatware drawer (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: cynandjon on 09.27.2007 at 12:20 pm in Kitchens Forum

Heres the type of drawer Im using

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if you go with a standard make sure you depth is deep enough to avoid jamming the drawer.

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RE: Would you be willing to share INSIDE your cabinets? (Follow-Up #3)

posted by: donnar57 on 09.25.2007 at 08:26 pm in Kitchens Forum

I have a small plastic basket in one of my kitchen cupboards with some medications and vitamins in it...anything that we need to take EVERY day. Everything else is in the downstairs bathroom.

I don't have pictures of anything unique that I've done with my cabinets except my Lazy Susan "appliance parking garage". I can't claim that as my own idea....got it off someone here. See the link below.

DonnaR/CA

Here is a link that might be useful: Appliance parking garage and other pics

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RE: Calling Gizmonike: Can you post pic of hidden elec outlet? (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: gizmonike on 09.16.2007 at 03:22 pm in Kitchens Forum

We used cabinet pocket door hardware, which is usually mounted at the sides with a split cabinet door, but we had it mounted on top so the door could flip up & out of the way. You may want a magnetic popup catch but we didn't see the need on ours.

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Here is the outlet "drawer" closed above our trash pullout.

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Here's the outlet front partially pulled forward.

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Here are the exposed outlets with the "drawer" front pushed in at the top. The dark spot at the top left corner is the roller part of the pocket hardware.

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Here are the exposed outlets with the trash pushed in yet still useable. To hide the outlets, we can just pull the "drawer front" back out & down.

I haven't posted to the Finished Kitchen blog yet.

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RE: Lazy Susans Can we Talk? (Follow-Up #17)

posted by: needanap on 08.29.2007 at 12:05 am in Kitchens Forum

Love mine. Use it for bakeware and large pots. Never had anything fall off. Easy to find whatever I need. Because of the 3/4 round shape, when I spin one of the shelves, the items come out beyond the edge of the counter, right in front of me so I never have to bend and hunt inside. Just spin till what I see what I need, and lift it right off. Not too crazy about the double hinged door, though. Excuse the crumbs on the floor - didn't notice them until after I snapped the pic!
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RE: What do you think of varying the heights of upper cabinets? (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: valinsv on 08.23.2007 at 02:15 am in Kitchens Forum

Agree with igloochick. For 8' ceilings I'd go to the top, but may consider a stacked molding for the top 6". However, in my kitchen I have a vaulted ceiling and so staggered with cabs. I like the effect as I have enough space over top to do over cabinet lights--to give some benefit since yes, I will have to clean them. Here they are:

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RE: Banquette anyone? (Follow-Up #46)

posted by: kitchenkelly on 05.28.2007 at 03:38 pm in Kitchens Forum

Thank you so much for the info, mcmann. I checked out the site and it is way cool! I love the Wegman collection with the pooches. I think that a room should have some whimsy and this fabric would add it.

I am adding the link for others. I might start a post in the home decorating site, too.

The morgue drawers are getting some fun cushions. Now, if I only knew how to sew.....

Here is a link that might be useful: Crypton fabric

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Bigger refrigerator or island - opinions please

posted by: linley1 on 09.06.2007 at 03:55 pm in Kitchens Forum

After spending countless hours trying to design our perfect kitchen, we have now decided to move (arghh!!). While we're still going to proceed with the kitchen remodel, I'm trying to revamp my design to save money and have broader appeal for resale.

My original plan had a narrow island with a 27" integrated subzero on the right wall and 24" fridge drawers in the island. This suited my personal situation well but might be a light on capacity (total 20 cu ft.) for some folks. The new houses in my area all have at least 42" sub-zeros.

I could just fit a 36" refrigerator on the wall and keep the island (cheaper but same amt. of space) or I can lose the island and put in a larger refrigerator(s) on the right wall and move the ovens to the other wall. Would you rather have the larger refrigerator space or the extra island?

A view of the whole kitchen floorplan:

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RE: best FL washer and dryer (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: babasnoopy on 06.08.2007 at 09:24 am in Laundry Room Forum

The new Miele W4840 washer and matching T9800 dryer may be a good fit for you. The washer is 4.0 cubit foot. Miele's have always been known for being very delicate, even being able to do dry-clean only items in the machine. The drum is big enough for my king size comforters so I think it should fit your husbands clothes.

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RE: Pictures of your Refrigerator Box? (Follow-Up #29)

posted by: zelmar on 09.05.2007 at 02:32 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here's our box. No wall involved. We chose a cd refrigerator of standard width (36") and standard height or just slightly taller so that we hopefully won't have trouble replacing it in the future.

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RE: 30'' counters/how deep cabinets? (Follow-Up #2)

posted by: c9pilot on 08.10.2007 at 09:15 am in Kitchens Forum

We got 30" deep cabinets so our countertops are actually going to be about 31.5" (my DH likes a deeper overhang because in our last rental kitchen, liquids would drip into the drawers).

Scherrs was able to locate longer Blum tracks, so our drawers are 27" full extension (25 3/4" inside measurement), while other "custom" cabinet makers told us that we'd have to use standard-depth drawers because the longer tracks didn't exist. Since every base cabinet is a drawer or pull-out tray, that would have cost us 25% in storage area.

I'll tell you, I love these. In one 27" wide lower cabinet drawer I store an entire 12-place set of dishes. That's 12 cups, 12 saucers, 12 big plates, 12 medium plates, 12 rimmed bowls & 12 deep bowls. It's great - and I love the 15" uppers that fit my large-diameter platters!

I think if you go with a local cabinet maker or Scherr's you'll find the prices quite comparable. You'll pay a lot more if you try to get custom depth with the standard companies, if they will even do it for you (i.e. Kraftmaid, Thomasville, Omega, Arch Bay, etc)

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RE: how to hide electrical outlets/switches (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: cloud_swift on 09.04.2007 at 05:46 am in Kitchens Forum

spinmom, island cabinets aren't usually made with a recess or dead space for outlets to go in. People generally want most space to be usable. Full extension drawers are usually about 20-21" front to back in a 24" cabinet so there is a little dead space behind them that can be used for electrical.

I don't know where kec is located - there is no requirement that outlets go on the end of peninsulas where I live. I think they require an outlet if the peninsula is longer than 24" (because at that length an outlet in the wall is too far). The end is often a convenient place to put an outlet especially with frameless cabinets because the fronts dont have space unless one gives up a drawer. Where we are, the outlet has to be within 6" of the countertop to count as a required outlet so ones far under an island overhang dont count, but ones on the back without an overhang would and ones just under the edge of an eating overhang can count. We put one at each corner of the back under our eating overhang.

If you have a panel on the end of the peninsula (that is a piece like a door to make the end prettier), that makes the end a little thicker so outlets go less deep into the cabinet. I'm not sure if dishwashers usually go back all 24" - maybe an outlet could be on the side towards the back so it goes behind your dishwasher. If you put one at the back or side of a cabinet, generally it is going to be high in the cabinet so you only would see the back of the outlet box if you stoop down to look for it. If it is behind a drawer you wouldnt see it.

We found the false drawer front in front of the sink provided a convenient place to put an outlet. We have one in front of our prep sink and it gets a lot of use for plugging in tools like the mini food processor and the stick blender.

You asked for pictures:
This outlet is in a shallow box on the side of a cabinet. The cabinet faces the end of our island. The side has a panel. The shallow box almost fits entirely within the depth of the panel plus cabinet side but the conduit sticks out. Some on this site have commented that a box with conduit going into it should be metal to ground the conduit Ive only seen the shallow boxes in plastic. The kitchen passed inspection and Im not concerned because I know that the conduit is grounded in a metal box at the other end.
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GFI outlets are bigger so they cant fit in such a shallow box (and some on this site feel a larger box should be used even for regular outlets). The outlet at the other end of our island is a GFI so here is how it looks with a regular depth box mounted in the side of a cabinet.
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Here is the outlet mounted in front of our prep sink (the false drawer front and door below it were very new natural cherry when this picture was taken - once they had a few months to darken, the colors matched the natrual cherry switch plate):
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Rather than hide the outlets and switches, we went for making them blend into the kitchen by choosing a Lutron outlet and switch color that worked and getting wall plates to go with the background. Im short and felt that plugmold mounted under the back of the wall cabinets would be too far a reach for me. We got wood plates to match our cabinets from Arnev.com and we got wallplates made out of our granite from Columbia Stone Works for our backsplash.
Before temporary black wall plates while we wait for the granite ones:
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RE: Do I need legs or corbels under an 18” wood overhang on isl (Follow-Up #6)

posted by: fothia on 09.04.2007 at 02:07 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here are a few pictures of our island. I may still add corbels as I like the look, but I'm going to live with it for a while and see. HTH

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RE: Do I need legs or corbels under an 18” wood overhang on isl (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: artteacher_nj on 08.31.2007 at 08:49 pm in Kitchens Forum

I chose to put corbels under the overhang on my island.
As Fothia said, you probably can add them later.
Here is my island with corbels~

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Kitchen 99% Finished

posted by: rotag on 06.24.2007 at 11:01 am in Kitchens Forum

Thank you to all, this forum really helped shape my kitchen. I would never have known what could be done without all the great ideas and advice given here. Though my kitchen resembles a great many here, the classic black and white, marble and soapstone and subway tiles, in my area, this is practically unheard of. The majority of people have never heard of soapstone and have no idea what I'm talking about when I mention subway tiles. (Of course, most of them are not TKO, either!)

I planned my kitchen over 2 years, part of a massive remodel and large addition. I'm very happy with the layout and feel very fortunate to enjoy working in my kitchen every day.

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RE: Island overhang for seating - what support would you recommen (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: alku05 on 07.19.2007 at 03:54 pm in Kitchens Forum

We have two "dining shelf brackets", that help support the plywood underlayment (we have 2 cm granite). The shape of these brackets is pretty knee-friendly. The plywood itself also acts as a cantilever, as it is attached to the cabinets and extends back quite a bit.

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RE: One-level vs. raised bar countertop in island (Follow-Up #5)

posted by: artteacher_nj on 07.08.2007 at 12:01 pm in Kitchens Forum

My island cabinets are 8' x 4' and we have a 1' overhang to make the counter 8' x 5'. It is all one level, and I love it that way. I only have a prep sink in one corner and the rest is clear. Underneath I have my MW and a wine/beverage fridge.
I really like the wide expanse of space. Levels would break up the space.
I set up buffets all the time, and it is so easy to serve off the island. I need every bit of the space when I set up a buffet for a party or holiday, and the traffic flows so nicely around an island!

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RE: Size (width) of kitchen island (Follow-Up #10)

posted by: alku05 on 07.12.2007 at 10:14 am in Kitchens Forum

Our island is a bit wider than your ideal; it's 5' wide. However, we have an 18" overhang, so our cabinetry is pretty similar to what you need. We have 24" deep cabinets on the working side, and then 18" wide cabinets behind those. We designed our island so that the three sides where there wasn't seating were functional (ie cabinets that opened on the sides as well as the back).

Here's a couple pictures:

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I don't have pictures on of the back side (has sink base and drawer bank) or the sink side (has trash pullout and drawer bank).

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RE: Pictures of your Refrigerator Box? (Follow-Up #25)

posted by: fothia on 09.04.2007 at 08:27 pm in Kitchens Forum

Hi Sanborn5, thanks. The cabinet panel (it's actually a very narrow box) on the right is completely flush with the front of the refrigerator door. The pantry wall on the left actually extends a little past the fridge door. Jenn-air's fridge is made with inside hinges that don't allow the outside of the door to swing out at all when opened, so the width dimension is the same with the door opened or closed. A lot like european cabinet hinges everyone uses now. It also has stops on it to prevent it from opening too much and hitting anything, but opens more than 90 degrees from when it's closed if that makes sense. The floating glass front goes up beyond the door to conceal the hinges at the top so you can achieve a more integrated look which was one of the reasons we choose it. We're really happy with how it came out and does really feel built in. Never thought I'd think an appliance was sexy looking...who knew? Only warning about this fridge is that the specs apply to the width at the top and bottom, in our case anyway as our fridge bowed out ever so slighly in the middle and our builder had to add a tiny fill piece to the cabinet above so we could actually fit it into the box. All is fine now, but only after a day of panic and thinking my fridge wasn't going to fit into this rather expensive end panel/box I designed. Hope all my descriptions make sense and thanks for noticing such a small detail which actually did get a lot of thought.

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RE: Pictures of your Refrigerator Box? (Follow-Up #21)

posted by: fothia on 09.04.2007 at 06:00 pm in Kitchens Forum

Thanks malhgold. I don't have a layout but would be happy to share dimensions:

Back walls: 52 inches
Side walls: 27 inches
Will have a 24 inch glass door once I've finished it

Bottom two shelves 18 inches deep
Next shelf is 15 and top is 12 inches deep

27 inches between floor and bottom shelf
18 to the next shelf (puts my micro at bar height for convenience)
third shelf is 12 inches up
14inches between top shelf and ceiling (low ceilings :(

I'm loving having a pantry and it fits so much in a relatively small amount of space. One of the best things we did in the reno.

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RE: Pictures of your Refrigerator Box? (Follow-Up #14)

posted by: fothia on 09.04.2007 at 02:59 pm in Kitchens Forum

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RE: Pictures of your Refrigerator Box? (Follow-Up #13)

posted by: cleo_2007 on 09.04.2007 at 11:36 am in Kitchens Forum

I have a wall on one side too. I used 6 inch fillers on either side as my box. The one side is housing pipes and I wanted symmetry so I used a matching 6 inch next to the wall. My fridge is counter depth but sticks out the depth of the doors.
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RE: santa cecelia granite and white cabinets/pics? (Follow-Up #1)

posted by: mdmc on 09.02.2007 at 12:09 pm in Kitchens Forum

Here's mine. I love it. This granite is very forgiving. It is hard to see crumbs or spills.( I told my husband as we get older and our eye sight begins to fail, I am not sure if that will be a blessing or a curse) We have only sealed it once and no staining what so ever. Also no streaking. I couldn't be happier.

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Finally finished Scherr's custom den

posted by: chiefneil on 08.09.2007 at 03:51 pm in Kitchens Forum

Sort of OT, since this is a den and not a kitchen. But there's been interest in Scherr's cabinets on this forum so I thought I'd post some project photos. I did the design myself, plus the staining, finishing, and installation. From the first pencil sketch to these photos took about a year! But it turned out really nice. The finished height can be deceiving - the cabs are actually about 10' tall, the ceiling is 12'.

Here's what I started with - three pallets that broke down into to two rooms that looked like this:

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The finished product after 9 months worth of work. Some details for the TKO: there's a combination of Seagull xenon pucks up top, and xenon linear lighting at the bottom. Shelves behind the glass door are wood-framed glass. There's also rope lighting on top of the bookcases. Also note the cool black and silver electrical outlet I installed in the lower right hand corner of the photo.

Installing the cabinets really gave me an appreciation for how difficult it is. Installing the base cabs and getting them properly level actually took a few weekends because my floor turned out to have a 1" slant which I didn't discover until halfway through the installation which I started from the low side! So I was continually having to shim the lower cabinets higher and higher as I installed each new one on the higher side!

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98% Finished kitchen pics

posted by: bikey on 08.12.2007 at 03:03 pm in Kitchens Forum

We are finally about ready to declare victory on the kitchen. A few little odds and ends remain, but at least it looks like a kitchen. Here are a few pics...

Here is a link that might be useful: Kitchen Pics

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