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A Site for the Love of the Rose

posted by: jasminerose4u on 01.21.2015 at 01:27 am in Roses Forum

I ran into this site that I thought was rather creative with roses named after famous people. It isn't in English, so don't know to whom to credit, but it looks like they put a lot of time into the web page. They obviously love roses as much as we do. I hope you enjoy it.

Here is a link that might be useful: A Site for the Love of the Rose


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RE: my propagations normally turn brown/black (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: seil on 01.22.2015 at 08:34 pm in Rose Propagation Forum

OK, good info, thanks! I don't use regular potting soil any more. I found it did retain too much water. I use SEED STARTER soil now. It's much finer and drains better. I also don't use that big of a pot. I got 16 oz. clear plastic cups. Punch a good size hole in the bottom of the cups for drainage. Fill the cups about 3/4 full with the starter soil and wet it. I wet it a couple of times until I see that the soil at the bottom is damp. You can tell by the color. It will darken when it's wet. Then I let them sit over night to drain any excess water and for the water to distribute itself evenly. Then I take my cutting and very gently scrape off the green outer bark to expose the white layer just under the skin. Some people also will just slice the bottom at a very steep angle to expose that inner layer. Dip it into some type of rooting hormone. Before sticking it in the cup take a pencil and make a hole in the soil first. Then you can stick the cutting in the soil without rubbing off all the hormone. Pat the soil firmly back around the cutting. Now you can water them in fairly well and let them drain.

I put mine right out in the sun, uncovered, in my little seedling nursery. I keep a close eye on them for water. With the clear cups you can see all the way to the bottom so you can see when the soil looks dry down there. Like I said the color will lighten as it dries out. Keep them evenly moist all the time but not soggy. Outside it's hard to give you a specific time table of how long that will take because the heat and humidity will play a part in how long they take to dry. I usually water at least every other day here (unless it rains) in the summer even though it's humid here by the lake. But I only water them a little bit at a time. After the initial soaking at planting time I let the top of the soil get a little dry before I water again, like maybe and inch down.

The other really nice thing about the clear cups is that you can see when they have rooted! You don't have to tug on them or disturb them in any way to know if they have rooted or not. Surprisingly the roots seem to head for the light at the sides of the cups right away. I let them stay in the cups until the bottom of the cup looks pretty full of roots and then I transfer them up into 1 gallon pots.

Hope that helps and if you have any questions please ask! Don't feel bad about not having much luck at first. I killed dozens of them before I found this method that seems to work pretty well for me.


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RE: How Long Have You Grown Roses in Pots? (Follow-Up #9)

posted by: rosefolly on 01.22.2015 at 01:08 pm in Antique Roses Forum

Potting soil is only meant to last about a year. For ideal rose health, repot each year.

I have stopped growing roses in pots altogether other than as a temporary measure. I think they are an awful lot more work than growing roses in soil. However, some people have no reasonable choice. There used to be a person over on the Rose Forum who had oak root fungus in her garden soil so bad that the only way she could grow roses was in pots.



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Old Roses carved in stone.....(pics)

posted by: celestialrose on 01.21.2008 at 09:09 pm in Antique Roses Forum

Many of you know from my previous posts that my husband and I travel all around our state (and beyond)in search of
old cemeteries in our quest to find old roses. We have found quite a few old roses from which we take a cutting to ensure that the wonderful old rose will not be lost forever, and return each summer to care for the original bush. There are hundreds of small cemetery plots around our state, many of them in a state of neglect and we rarely find any roses in them.....just dirt, weeds and moss. But even if we don't find a living rose, we oftentimes find wonderful tombstones with roses carved into them, mainly centifolia roses with their "cabbage" shape. We did a little research and found out the meaning of roses on headstones. When a small child or infant has died, the rose is but a rosebud still unopened. This signifies that the rose has not had a chance to bloom...just like the infant has not had a chance to live its life. Whenever you see a full-blown rose with a severed stem, this signifies a young person or adult whose life was "cut short". When there is a fully-opened rose with an intact stem, it will be a mature adult who lived a long life.
I wanted to share a few photos of some of these old
tombstones roses I have come across. We find these same rose depictions on great numbers of headstones in dozens of cemeteries all over the state. They are both fascinating and somber... beautiful reminders of souls who once blossomed here on earth, and of those who never had the chance.

An unopened Rosebud....on an infant's grave...symbolizing the start of life, cut short.


the next two photos are of youths who died....whereas babies had just the unopened rosebud, the graves of older children or teenagers show both a full bloom and a severed rosebud...meaning they were in the full bloom of life when they died....the rosebud signifies that there were still many blooms waiting to open, but were cut short.



The next two were graves of adults who were still fairly young....notice fully opened blooms with the severed stems...signifying that the deaths were unexpected and sudden.



The following was on the grave of an elderly woman...notice the full blown rose, but no severing of the stem, since the person had lived a long life.


We also find roses on stones in many other forms, such as...
outstretched hand dropping a rose on the grave


rose wreaths....


rose bouquets, often with other flowers (lilies signify purity)....



and notice the woman's name....



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Homemade Insecticidal Soap Formula

posted by: sandandsun on 08.23.2014 at 03:17 pm in Organic Rose Growing Forum

Today I visited John Starnes' blog: Rosegasms

And I found his link to an article he wrote for the St. Petersburg Times.
In his article he provides a formula or recipe for homemade insecticidal soap. Note that the insecticidal soap recipe is the recipe that adds vegetable oil.

I haven't tried it; I just found it. Please report if it works as well for you as the commercially available products.

My thanks in advance to Mr. Starnes.

Direct link to the St. Petersburg Times article below:

Here is a link that might be useful: Wash away your garden worries by JOHN A. STARNES JR.


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RE: What is your New Year Resolutions on your garden? (Follow-Up #7)

posted by: Sara-Ann on 01.04.2015 at 05:41 pm in Roses Forum

Mine would be the same as Beth's and Ingrid's on the mulching and fertilizing, especially on the mulching! Generally, just be more attentive to the overall maintenance and upkeep of my rose beds. Try to figure out which Austins to plant, because I really want a few, but I am having a difficult time deciding.


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did I plant sterile rose seeds? or was the method at fault?

posted by: luxrosa on 12.01.2014 at 07:29 pm in Rose Propagation Forum

On our two bushes of Belle Sultane, one had for years never set more than 3-4 hips on the entire bush, while the other bush has set a couple dozen hips that are now are a rich red-maroon color and taste jammy, in previous years the hips were mostly deformed, but these are shaped in a symmetrical shape. I 'm wondering if they would be fertile?

I tried growing Tea roses from seeds from 'Mrs. Dudley Cross' a few years ago, I soaked the the 7 seeds in a weak hydrogen peroxide solution then transferred the seeds to the fridge in a pot of damp soil for a couple weeks, removed them and planted them outdoors but not one of the seeds germinated.

Should I bother trying again? Do some roses bear sterile hips?
If so is there anyway to tell if a hip bears sterile hip seeds?
I have ripe rosehips on Belle Sultane, and ripening on Mrs. Dudley Cross as well as on Mme. Lombard, all three of which set only a very few hips most years; 5-7 on bushes that are 4-7 feet tall is usually what I see.

Between myself and my neighbor we have more than 250 rose cultivars and species, I suppose I could pick hundreds of hips remove the seeds and just plant them as they are after all rose seeds do germinate in the wild, and hope that some of the seeds will germinate, I'm excited by this thought,because several dozen plants are O.G.R.'s, perhaps I might get a few dozens of seedlings.

Might anyone (roseseek are you there?) know if there is a different percentage of rose seed germination according to the class of a rose seed? I've read a bit about chromosome incompatibility.

Thanks Lux.


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Your favorite rose combinations?

posted by: texaslynn on 08.04.2009 at 06:57 pm in Roses Forum

My goal for the next year is to "organize" my roses a bit better, i.e. plant more of the same for landscape impact and make sure colors and styles are complimentary. A little less haphazard in the yard! I have a few ideas, such as Souvenir de la Malmaison and Magenta planted together:
Souvenir de la Malmaison and Magenta

These are still in pots but this combo appeals to me. I have also discovered that (I think and hope!) my Westerland will look good with my Heaven on Earths near it.

What are some other great combos (or even three-somes!) out there? Pictures would be nice, too! I have all different colors and types of roses so I have a lot to work with. I have noticed that I seem to have acquired a LOT of roses in the apricotty range....hmmmm.

One that I have a bit of trouble imagining is what to plant with Maggie, a very bright magenta/fuscia/whatever the color is.

Pinks are not always easy depending on the tone or hue. Several times I have thought something would look good and then thought "yuck!" - that doesn't work at all!

Any suggestions are appreciated!



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RE: Own root Floribundas, Grandifloras & Hybrid Teas? (Follow-Up #23)

posted by: buford on 11.12.2014 at 04:13 pm in Roses Forum

Thanks kstrong. First I have to see if my fort cuttings will take root.

Also, I went to a society meeting last night, and as usually came home with a rose, an own root Cinco de Mayo. We shall see how it does.


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Controlling Size of Old Garden Roses (OGR) in a Small Garden

posted by: ThomasLearning on 08.19.2013 at 01:05 am in Antique Roses Forum

If an Old Garden Rose naturally grows to be 8 feet wide and 8 feet deep, could I control the size of it by putting in a confined bed (made of brick, stone, etc) that is 4 feet wide and 4 feet deep, etc?

I want Old Garden Roses in the garden but do not want it to look wild and out of control but I still want to respect the plant.

I would like to see any photos of small gardens with OGR.



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RE: How winter affects roses--dormancy etc. (Follow-Up #4)

posted by: andreark on 09.07.2013 at 12:53 pm in Roses Forum


One bed (6 HTs) is about 18 months old. The second bed (7 HTs) is only 3 months old. I also have 6 potted roses that are less than a month - 3 miniatures, 2 shrubs, and one floribunda.



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pretty "eyelash stamen" singles

posted by: poorbutroserich on 09.16.2013 at 08:04 pm in Roses Forum

Hi. I'm looking for suggestions for a healthy, vigorous single (or near single) with the eyelash stamens or frilly, showy stamens.
I like "Innocence".
Any thoughts?


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Small Old Garden Roses for Small Gardens

posted by: ThomasLearning on 09.01.2013 at 02:32 am in Antique Roses Forum

Small Old Garden Roses (OGR) for Small Gardens

Here is a revised list of small Old Garden Roses for small gardens. I will post a new list from time to time as I learn about new roses. Many of the roses were suggested by this forum’s members. Thank you again. I would love to hear from any one who has grown these roses for 4 years or so and who prune these roses (if needed). Please share your tips for keeping the size small and the roses beautiful.

1. Archduke Charles (China / Bengale circa 1825)
2. Barbara's Pasture Rose (Hybrid Perpetual, found rose)
3. Beauty of Rosemawr (Tea, 1903)
4. Boule de Neige (Bourbon, 1867)
5. Captain Harry Stebbins (Hybrid Tea discovered 1980)
6. Comtesse du Cayla (China 1902)
7. Devoniensis (Tea, Foster 1838)
8. Duke of Edinburgh (Hybrid Perpetual, 1860 to 1869)
9. Enfant de France (Hybrid Perpetual, 1860)
10. Francis Dubreuil (Tea 1984)
11. Green Rose (China prior to 1845)
12. Kronprinzessis Viktoria von Preussen (Bourbon 1888)
13. La France (Hybrid Tea 1867)
14. La Reine (Hybrid Perpetual, 1842)
15. Lady Hillingdon (China, 1910)
16. Madame Cornelissen (Bourbon introduced 1860 to 1869)
17. Maggie (Bourbon)
18. Marchesa Bocella (Hybrid Perpetual, 1842)
19. Old Blush (China Hybrid, 1852)
20. Souvenir de la Malmaison (Bourbon introduced 1843)
21. The Doctor (Tea Hybrid, 1936)
22. Westside Road Cream Tea
23. White Pet (Polyantha, 1879)


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Roses that are off the Radar...less Popular

posted by: desertgarden561 on 12.14.2013 at 11:45 am in Antique Roses Forum

Okay, I must admit that I have a tendency to get bored with some things unless I am "taken" with them. As a result, with roses, I find myself always on the look out for some new beauty. I scour books, read blogs, and have completed a ridiculous number of HMF advanced searches.

Being new to OGR's, and getting re-acquainted with Austin's, after a decade hiatus, my appetite is seemingly insatiable at this point, but I can understand why those lacking my novice, are looking to discover the roses that have been lost.

When I read the forums, it seems as though over and over, many of the same roses are being referred to. I know that some of these roses are proven winners in a variety of garden settings, and they warrant the praise for their beauty, health, vigor etc., but I am always looking for the unique or underrated rose that has all of the merits that people boast about when referring to the "popular" ones.

Recently during my daily rose obsession, I stumbled upon Vicomtesse d' Avesne and was "taken" with it. It is a beauty that Vintage had sold, but it is possible to get at this point.

Which roses in your garden are really stars, but lack popularity so they are off the radar?

Image from:


This post was edited by desertgarden561 on Sat, Dec 14, 13 at 14:16


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RE: Irresponsible Nursery Practices - A Rant (Follow-Up #5)

posted by: Kippy-the-Hippy on 01.30.2014 at 10:46 pm in Antique Roses Forum

I was looking for 2 cherry trees, low chill ones. I know that the owners of one local have had a rough year or so with health issues and thought I would like to make a few purchases from them to help out.

The wife was there and I asked her if they were going to get either of the two trees in, she said "Oh Noooo not those! I only order the right trees for our climate" she went on and on... and then told me what cherry she was getting in. Well it is NOT one that will ever produce in our area because it needs over 2x the chill hours.

I am going to write off the way she replied and what she ordered as she just has too much to deal with. I will go buy something else this summer and get the right trees else where

Sometimes people try and just don't have enough knowledge or time to learn. Some gentle hints might help


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Charles Rennie Mackintosh

posted by: desertgarden561 on 04.13.2014 at 11:41 pm in Antique Roses Forum

I have read many not so great comments about Charles Rennie Mackintosh, but ordered it anyway because I am a sucker for pink/lilac roses.

While it hasn't been perfect, it has a little P.M., it is new. I am extremely pleased with the rate of growth, repeat and the coloring of this rose.

Our gardens can be so different, and sometimes we have to take a chance. With that being communicated, I only purchased two CRM:)

Sorry for the blurred image as it was a bit of a blustery day.


This post was edited by desertgarden561 on Sun, Apr 13, 14 at 23:43


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Neat rose..what am I?

posted by: Alana7bSC on 04.14.2014 at 07:33 pm in Antique Roses Forum

This is a rose my husband's great-gramma had. It has no scent that I can tell, and is thornless , with fern like leaves. Anything you think would be helpful. My mom called it the yellow rose of Texas, but can't find nothing to support that :)

This post was edited by Alana7bSC on Mon, Apr 14, 14 at 19:39


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Easy soil testing/materials in your kitchen

posted by: fogrose on 03.17.2013 at 05:33 pm in Antique Roses Forum

Hi everyone,

I saw this on Facebook and thought it would be good to share. Soil testing that doesn't require expensive analysis. I plan on trying it for a ballpark result.

Hope this is helpful.

easy soil testing photo Screenshot2013-03-16at91414AM.png



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